Scotland To Vote For Independence On Thursday September 18th....

[Indofred]

I don't support left wing ideologies...........If that is what floats their boat then fine...........But the banks will attack them for leaving England, which they are already threatening to do.........So if they fail it is because the banks and businesses will cause it.

You don't get it.
Banks are businesses. Nothing political here - just cold hard cash.

 

[eagle1462010]

Why must they leave then Indofred...............Will their taxes go up..............What really changes except who they pay taxes to.................

Back it up.........the oil rigs will still produce oil, the shipyards can still build and repair ships, the food will still grow, the fishing boats will still bring home fish.........the sun will rise and the sun will set............

What has changed.............Nothing except the manipulators of currency want them on the Euro.........and to OBEY.............

Prove it.

 

[HenryBHough]

No big deal. Hadrian's wall is still in place at the border - will need but a wee bit of refurbishing. Scots will get used to having to clear British customs (UK is in The EU; Scotland would have to go through the years-long process of applying for membership) before venturing south. They'll quickly find a way to develop a new currency, the British Pound no longer being available to them. Perhaps some sort of shiny stones?

And then there's the matter of all those mortgages denominated in GBP that will have to be repaid in GBP. Pounds bought at the current rate of exchange against what....shiny stones?

Scotland indeed deserves independence.

 

[eagle1462010]

No big deal. Hadrian's wall is still in place at the border - will need but a wee bit of refurbishing. Scots will get used to having to clear British customs (UK is in The EU; Scotland would have to go through the years-long process of applying for membership) before venturing south. They'll quickly find a way to develop a new currency, the British Pound no longer being available to them. Perhaps some sort of shiny stones?

And then there's the matter of all those mortgages denominated in GBP that will have to be repaid in GBP. Pounds bought at the current rate of exchange against what....shiny stones?

Scotland indeed deserves independence.

aka the banks will ensure that they are punished for daring to leave.

 

[HenryBHough]

It's a clear case of one's need to carefully consider that which one desires before setting out to get it. The danger is one might actually get it.

 

[eagle1462010]

It's a clear case of one's need to carefully consider that which one desires before setting out to get it. The danger is one might actually get it.

aka Be careful what you wish for.........especially if it will offend the UK and EU..........because you will pay for want to rule yourself and your people................

 

[eagle1462010]

Britain to tell Scotland Lose the pound if you exit UK Reuters

'BULLYING TACTICS'

Scottish nationalists argue that Scotland's development has been stunted by a British economy focused too strongly on London, and that an independent Scotland could flourish drawing on energy resources and technological enterprise.

The SNP said in a statement that the British government had lost the argument against independence and was therefore resorting to bullying tactics in panic.

It said it thought the shift in position on the pound was a bluff and said it might not take on any share of UK debt in the event of independence if it wasn't allowed to use the pound, something it has said before.

"Osborne's position is ... a bluff," said Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland's SNP Deputy First Minister.

"It would cost their own businesses hundreds of millions of pounds a year," she said. "It would blow a massive hole in their balance of payments and it would leave them having to pick up the entirety of UK debt."

Sturgeon suggested Britain would be powerless to stop an independent Scotland using the pound.

"We have set out a reasonable case that we should continue to use our pound because it is ours as much as it is anybody else's," she said. "Neither George Osborne nor anyone else can stop Scotland using the pound."

Analysts say an independent Scotland would not need to ask London for permission to use the pound but would then have the status of a country like Ecuador which uses the U.S. dollar but has no say over Washington's monetary policy.

Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds Banking Group and other major financial institutions based in Edinburgh, have begun contingency planning in case of independence, Reuters reported on Friday.

Industry sources told Reuters on Tuesday a key part of that planning is what they will do in the event of a currency union not being agreed. RBS, Lloyds and Standard Life declined to comment.

 

[Indofred]

Why must they leave then Indofred...............Will their taxes go up..............What really changes except who they pay taxes to.................

Back it up.........the oil rigs will still produce oil, the shipyards can still build and repair ships, the food will still grow, the fishing boats will still bring home fish.........the sun will rise and the sun will set............

What has changed.............Nothing except the manipulators of currency want them on the Euro.........and to OBEY.............

Prove it.

But you're ignoring the likely political situation, and likely massive cock ups when socialists get their hands on a country.
They fuck up every time, and business knows this.

BBC News - Shop bosses plan new Yes vote warning

John Timpson, Chairman of Timpson, has confirmed that he has signed the letter. He has 100 shops in Scotland. Mr Timpson said: "The biggest problem is uncertainty. We don't know what will happen for instance on tax and business rates. My concern is the likelihood that these would go up.

"If our costs do increase, we certainly wouldn't put prices up. But we would make less money and we'd have to think very hard over whether we would open any more stores north of the border....
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The latest to speak about re-location is asset management company Aegon UK.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, chief executive Adrian Grace said that they were setting up a new registered company in England and Wales so that customers were "unimpacted by what is going on in Scotland". He said "customers will not want a currency risk" if Scotland votes Yes.
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Billions wiped off value of Scottish businesses as markets balk at independence - Telegraph

Billions of pounds were wiped off the value of Scotland's biggest businesses on Monday as markets balked at the increased likelihood of independence.

Lloyds Banking Group, RBS, and Standard Life - all headquartered in Edinburgh - were among the firms whose share price dropped by hundreds of millions as investors flogged shares en masse.

The pound also slumped to its lowest level against the dollar since November as jitters spread through the financial markets at the prospect of a Yes vote

No matter what you like, business is worried, and that means they're more likely to pull out of reduce their commitment/investment.
If the head office is in Scotland and taxes go up, they'll have to move, as we saw with Burger king moving from the US to Canada.

 

[Phoenall]

Scotland will be voting for independence on Thursday September the 18th............Is this a good or bad move by Scotland? Here is a current video being played in Scotland wanting a Yes vote...........



This site is pro independence.........

Together we can make Scotland better. Scottish National Party

The Banks don't like the move and are threatening to leave Scotland.........

Banks Will Bail on an Independent Scotland - The Wire

Deutsche Bank Yes vote would bring modern Great Depression Herald Scotland

Is it Blackmail or reality?

WHAT SAY YOU???????? Is this a good or bad move??????????

It is what they deserve after all the BULLYING and THREATS from Salmond and co. they were under the impression that they would still hold the British purse strings and be able to dip in to the coffers any time they wanted. Now they have found out the reality and are making even more threats of BULLYING and nationalisation of industries. The latest is a demand for £10 billion worth of NEW armed forces weapons because he wants to be better than Britain and become part of NATO, UN and the EU.

I voted yes because it will be a rude awakening for the Scots and show them that Salmond just wants to be King Alex

 

[Phoenall]

I voted yes...........The Scots should govern themselves.............

They are currently rejecting the Euro dollar and want to maintain the pound sterling as their currency. They don't want to be told by the European Union how to live their lives, but to decide locally to how they are run their own country.

The Banks are ticked off by the coming vote because the Scots are choosing to ditch the Euro and refuse to accept the Euro as their currency.

I say GOOD FOR THE SCOTS and vote for INDEPENDENCE ON THE 18TH.............

They cant use the British economy to prop up their failures, so the Banks are doing what they must to safeguard their customers money. Scotland is doomed because Salmond does not have a clue. He has two options and neither looks very good for Scotland, join the Norwegians and tie the two economies together putting the Scots cost of living sky high, or try and join the EU and be forced to use the Euro.

 

[Phoenall]

Any time people vote to peacefully secede from a government that they feel doesn't represent them, they should be left alone to chart their own course.

EDIT:
Actually they shouldn't be "left alone"...They should be aided and assisted by their former government so they can get their feet on the ground and have a strong start.
After all they are former countrymen...not mortal enemies...

Scotland has had its own government for some time now, and they have had a taste of power. Why should we British be expected to be racially abused by the Scots while handing them all our taxes. They want independence then they can have FULL INDEPENDENCE

 

[Phoenall]

Scotland isn't a state, no comparison with the USA. No, the economic consequences, and lessened defense capability of the UK should negate any value of "independence". NATO may or may not allow an "independent" Scotland in.

We know scotland isn't a state.
We know it has nothing to do with the u.s.

You think that if the people vote to peacefully secede that the rest of britain would abandon them and not defend them?

You think no nations in the world would recognize their independence and trade with them?

Why should scotland care if NATO would "allow" them to join or not?

YES as the Scots are doing just this to the rest of Britain

Yes but at their exchange rates and conditions

Because they would be too small to do anything if they were invaded by a hostile nation.

 

[Phoenall]

I voted "Yes".
Several reasons for this:

Scotland is mainly socialists,

Link?

so it must be filled with fucking idiots

Socialists are generally idiots but you use the classic "if-then" fallacy to declare all scottish people idiots..

- that means England would be better off as it would have less dole money to pay out,

How much dole/welfare money does england pay out? How much of it goes to scotland?
Links.

and a lot less alcohol and drug rehabilitation centres to maintain.

So scottish people are drunks and drug users...
How many drug rehab centers are there in scotland? How many are there in england? How many in all of britain?

Leaving the socialist element out in the cold would mean the English parliament would have a lot less left wing MPs, so England could have Tory governments, leaving the left wing idiotic Labour party as a sad, faded memory.

Fantasy and unfounded speculation.

Work out this for starter each Scot gets £2300 subsidy a year and there are 6 million scots in Scotland. That is a saving of £ 13.8 billion for starters, Then the Scots have the lowest rate of employment at under 18%, the British average is 25% and when Scotland goes independent will rise to 29%. Just google it and find out

 

[Indofred]

I'm going to bookmark this page so, in about five years (Assuming the idiots vote yes), I can return to my prediction.

It goes as follows.
Scotland will elect a bunch of left wing morons.
Those morons will put a load of shit left wing policies in place.
Taxes will go up to stupid levels.
Unemployment will follow as businesses rush to leave Scotland and others, the ones that can't move, go bust.
The Scottish unions will do a power grab, taking Scotland back to the union power stupidity of the 1970s UK.
The Scottish government's stupidity will send the country into a deep financial crisis.
The Scottish government will blame London for everything.

 

[Phoenall]

I'm going to bookmark this page so, in about five years (Assuming the idiots vote yes), I can return to my prediction.

It goes as follows.
Scotland will elect a bunch of left wing morons.
Those morons will put a load of shit left wing policies in place.
Taxes will go up to stupid levels.
Unemployment will follow as businesses rush to leave Scotland and others, the ones that can't move, go bust.
The Scottish unions will do a power grab, taking Scotland back to the union power stupidity of the 1970s UK.
The Scottish government's stupidity will send the country into a deep financial crisis.
The Scottish government will blame London for everything.

You missed out and will then go begging to London to bail them out

 

[Indofred]

I'm going to bookmark this page so, in about five years (Assuming the idiots vote yes), I can return to my prediction.

It goes as follows.
Scotland will elect a bunch of left wing morons.
Those morons will put a load of shit left wing policies in place.
Taxes will go up to stupid levels.
Unemployment will follow as businesses rush to leave Scotland and others, the ones that can't move, go bust.
The Scottish unions will do a power grab, taking Scotland back to the union power stupidity of the 1970s UK.
The Scottish government's stupidity will send the country into a deep financial crisis.
The Scottish government will blame London for everything.

You missed out and will then go begging to London to bail them out

Sorry, and will then go begging to London to bail them out.

 

[Indofred]

They voted NO, but the large Yes votes proves a lot of Scottish people are fucking idiots.