Scotland To Vote For Independence On Thursday September 18th....

[eagle1462010]

Scotland will be voting for independence on Thursday September the 18th............Is this a good or bad move by Scotland? Here is a current video being played in Scotland wanting a Yes vote...........



This site is pro independence.........

Together we can make Scotland better. Scottish National Party

The Banks don't like the move and are threatening to leave Scotland.........

Banks Will Bail on an Independent Scotland - The Wire

Deutsche Bank Yes vote would bring modern Great Depression Herald Scotland

Is it Blackmail or reality?

WHAT SAY YOU???????? Is this a good or bad move??????????

 

[eagle1462010]

I voted yes...........The Scots should govern themselves.............

They are currently rejecting the Euro dollar and want to maintain the pound sterling as their currency. They don't want to be told by the European Union how to live their lives, but to decide locally to how they are run their own country.

The Banks are ticked off by the coming vote because the Scots are choosing to ditch the Euro and refuse to accept the Euro as their currency.

I say GOOD FOR THE SCOTS and vote for INDEPENDENCE ON THE 18TH.............

 

[Rotagilla]

Any time people vote to peacefully secede from a government that they feel doesn't represent them, they should be left alone to chart their own course.

EDIT:
Actually they shouldn't be "left alone"...They should be aided and assisted by their former government so they can get their feet on the ground and have a strong start.
After all they are former countrymen...not mortal enemies...

 

[eagle1462010]

Scottish Independence The referendum debate as it happens

According to this Scot newspaper it appears to be very close. 49% yes versus 51% no.

 

[Peach]

Scotland isn't a state, no comparison with the USA. No, the economic consequences, and lessened defense capability of the UK should negate any value of "independence". NATO may or may not allow an "independent" Scotland in.

 

[Rotagilla]

Scotland isn't a state, no comparison with the USA. No, the economic consequences, and lessened defense capability of the UK should negate any value of "independence". NATO may or may not allow an "independent" Scotland in.

We know scotland isn't a state.
We know it has nothing to do with the u.s.

You think that if the people vote to peacefully secede that the rest of britain would abandon them and not defend them?

You think no nations in the world would recognize their independence and trade with them?

Why should scotland care if NATO would "allow" them to join or not?

 

[Indofred]

I voted "Yes".
Several reasons for this:

Scotland is mainly socialists, so it must be filled with fucking idiots - that means England would be better off as it would have less dole money to pay out, and a lot less alcohol and drug rehabilitation centres to maintain.

Leaving the socialist element out in the cold would mean the English parliament would have a lot less left wing MPs, so England could have Tory governments, leaving the left wing idiotic Labour party as a sad, faded memory.

 

[eagle1462010]

Scotland isn't a state, no comparison with the USA. No, the economic consequences, and lessened defense capability of the UK should negate any value of "independence". NATO may or may not allow an "independent" Scotland in.

It is a nation if it chooses to be so...........A Nation that has to pay a poll tax just to vote..............

To me it is stay in the Euro or Else........so the IMF can manipulate every country in the region as the EU makes regulations and taxes for members of the EU..................

This is about the Fiat Currency machine and Scotland saying they should rule themselves and maintain a Sovereign Currency............

4 members of the EU in the south have threatened to do the same by rejecting the EURO already.....Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal if my memory of that article is correct.

The IMF has been manipulating the currency just like the Fed here.

 

[Indofred]

Oh, almost forgot.
Scotland would end up ruled by left wing idiots, so wealth is of no matter as, regardless of how much cash they have at the moment, they'll be totally fucked within a couple of years as socialist stupidity takes hold.

 

[Peach]

Scotland isn't a state, no comparison with the USA. No, the economic consequences, and lessened defense capability of the UK should negate any value of "independence". NATO may or may not allow an "independent" Scotland in.

We know scotland isn't a state.
We know it has nothing to do with the u.s.

You think that if the people vote to peacefully secede that the rest of britain would abandon them and not defend them?

You think no nations in the world would recognize their independence and trade with them?

Why should scotland care if NATO would "allow" them to join or not?

Defense, and a few posters liken this to US states rebelling, which was TREASON. The UK needs Scotland for defense, and vice versa. It is to be hope Scotland is required to go through the usual time consuming procedure to recognized as a nation, should the vote for independence pass. No trade, let the Scots start from square one.

 

[Rotagilla]

I voted "Yes".
Several reasons for this:

Scotland is mainly socialists,

Link?

so it must be filled with fucking idiots

Socialists are generally idiots but you use the classic "if-then" fallacy to declare all scottish people idiots..

- that means England would be better off as it would have less dole money to pay out,

How much dole/welfare money does england pay out? How much of it goes to scotland?
Links.

and a lot less alcohol and drug rehabilitation centres to maintain.

So scottish people are drunks and drug users...
How many drug rehab centers are there in scotland? How many are there in england? How many in all of britain?

Leaving the socialist element out in the cold would mean the English parliament would have a lot less left wing MPs, so England could have Tory governments, leaving the left wing idiotic Labour party as a sad, faded memory.

Fantasy and unfounded speculation.

 

[eagle1462010]

Scotland isn't a state, no comparison with the USA. No, the economic consequences, and lessened defense capability of the UK should negate any value of "independence". NATO may or may not allow an "independent" Scotland in.

We know scotland isn't a state.
We know it has nothing to do with the u.s.

You think that if the people vote to peacefully secede that the rest of britain would abandon them and not defend them?

You think no nations in the world would recognize their independence and trade with them?

Why should scotland care if NATO would "allow" them to join or not?

Defense, and a few posters liken this to US states rebelling, which was TREASON. The UK needs Scotland for defense, and vice versa. It is to be hope Scotland is required to go through the usual time consuming procedure to recognized as a nation, should the vote for independence pass. No trade, let the Scots start from square one.

Who is invading the UK or Scotland right now? The only invasion I see is the Multiculturalism policies which is blowing up in their faces...............

If England were attacked or Scotland...........the other would fight as well...........Only a fool would believe otherwise.............

Scotland has resources, such as 50 wells off their coast......Shipyards and such........They are not dependent on the UK as far as the ability to produce energy and industrial jobs..........They can be a country to themselves and still have trade with the UK and others..........

The UK doesn't want to lose their tax revenues from Scotland.......The EU doesn't want anyone straying for the Euro Dollar..............So they will attack Scotland should they vote yes. They are already doing so with veiled threats.

 

[Rotagilla]

Oh, almost forgot.
Scotland would end up ruled by left wing idiots, so wealth is of no matter as, regardless of how much cash they have at the moment, they'll be totally fucked within a couple of years as socialist stupidity takes hold.

more wild, unfounded fantasy and speculation to "support" your dislike of scotland.

 

[Indofred]

I voted "Yes".
Several reasons for this:

Scotland is mainly socialists,

Link?

so it must be filled with fucking idiots

Socialists are generally idiots but you use the classic "if-then" fallacy to declare all scottish people idiots..

- that means England would be better off as it would have less dole money to pay out,

How much dole/welfare money does england pay out? How much of it goes to scotland?
Links.

and a lot less alcohol and drug rehabilitation centres to maintain.

So scottish people are drunks and drug users...
How many drug rehab centers are there in scotland? How many are there in england? How many in all of britain?

Leaving the socialist element out in the cold would mean the English parliament would have a lot less left wing MPs, so England could have Tory governments, leaving the left wing idiotic Labour party as a sad, faded memory.

Fantasy and unfounded speculation.

I've been.

 

[Indofred]

Oh, almost forgot.
Scotland would end up ruled by left wing idiots, so wealth is of no matter as, regardless of how much cash they have at the moment, they'll be totally fucked within a couple of years as socialist stupidity takes hold.

more wild, unfounded fantasy and speculation to "support" your dislike of scotland.

Skunks smell, but I don't dislike them.
Socialists waste money, usually other peoples, but I do dislike them.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/30b09312-8d93-11e3-bbe7-00144feab7de.html#axzz3DCEtm1XZ

High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email [email protected] to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/30b09312-8d93-11e3-bbe7-00144feab7de.html#ixzz3DCF5B2HRAn analysis by John Curtice, Scotland’s leading pollster, shows that a vote for independence in September’s referendum would theoretically deprive Labour of more than 40 MPs, requiring the party to win an estimated 250,000 extra votes from the rest of the UK to compensate.

The morons here assume facts are hate, if they don't follow their views.
Sorry, bub, facts are facts; the majority in Scotland are left leaning, so please take one fuck off tablet and go to bed.

 

[Rotagilla]

Defense,

LMAO..in your fantasy no one would defend scotland if they were attacked.
.how simplistic and naive
When was the last time scotland was attacked, by the way?...

and a few posters liken this to US states rebelling, which was TREASON.

No..the people of the south voted to peacefully secede, which was their constitutional right... and did so. That isn't "treason". Lincoln invaded the south, a sovereign, independent nation at that point, and forced the war.

Was it "treason" when the patriots seceded from england?
You're saying this country was founded by "treason"? LMAO...Do you believe in the right of people to determine their own course and form of government?

The UK needs Scotland for defense, and vice versa. It is to be hope Scotland is required to go through the usual time consuming procedure to recognized as a nation, should the vote for independence pass. No trade, let the Scots start from square one.

simplistic, naive and uninformed...the perfect trifecta.

 

[Rotagilla]

I voted "Yes".
Several reasons for this:

Scotland is mainly socialists,

Link?

so it must be filled with fucking idiots

Socialists are generally idiots but you use the classic "if-then" fallacy to declare all scottish people idiots..

- that means England would be better off as it would have less dole money to pay out,

How much dole/welfare money does england pay out? How much of it goes to scotland?
Links.

and a lot less alcohol and drug rehabilitation centres to maintain.

So scottish people are drunks and drug users...
How many drug rehab centers are there in scotland? How many are there in england? How many in all of britain?

Leaving the socialist element out in the cold would mean the English parliament would have a lot less left wing MPs, so England could have Tory governments, leaving the left wing idiotic Labour party as a sad, faded memory.

Fantasy and unfounded speculation.

I've been.

"You've been"..what? Sorry..I'm not fluent in obtuse...can you elaborate?

all it looks like to me is you're dodging my questions.

 

[Rotagilla]

The morons here assume facts are hate, if they don't follow their views.
Sorry, bub, facts are facts; the majority in Scotland are left leaning, so please take one fuck off tablet and go to bed.

LMAO..you make claims, allegations and create strawmen to knock down... and then post graphs of an OPINION POLL that has nothing to do with proving your wild claims...Distraction doesn't work on me...bub...

 

[Peach]

Defense,

LMAO..in your fantasy no one would defend scotland if they were attacked.
.how simplistic and naive
When was the last time scotland was attacked, by the way?...

and a few posters liken this to US states rebelling, which was TREASON.

No..the people of the south voted to peacefully secede, which was their constitutional right... and did so. That isn't "treason". Lincoln invaded the south, a sovereign, independent nation at that point, and forced the war.

Was it "treason" when the patriots seceded from england?
You're saying this country was founded by "treason"? LMAO...Do you believe in the right of people to determine their own course and form of government?

The UK needs Scotland for defense, and vice versa. It is to be hope Scotland is required to go through the usual time consuming procedure to recognized as a nation, should the vote for independence pass. No trade, let the Scots start from square one.

simplistic, naive and uninformed...the perfect trifecta.

Firing on Ft. Sumter was "peaceful"?

Britain faces a period of severe economic turbulence if Scotland votes for independence next week, economists warned, as the prospect of a Yes vote threatened a new financial crisis.

A report from a respected financial advisory firm said that investors were already pulling money out of the UK at the fastest pace since the "credit crisis" of 2008.

Scotland heading for a Great Depression after a Yes vote - Telegraph

 

[eagle1462010]

Defense,

LMAO..in your fantasy no one would defend scotland if they were attacked.
.how simplistic and naive
When was the last time scotland was attacked, by the way?...

and a few posters liken this to US states rebelling, which was TREASON.

No..the people of the south voted to peacefully secede, which was their constitutional right... and did so. That isn't "treason". Lincoln invaded the south, a sovereign, independent nation at that point, and forced the war.

Was it "treason" when the patriots seceded from england?
You're saying this country was founded by "treason"? LMAO...Do you believe in the right of people to determine their own course and form of government?

The UK needs Scotland for defense, and vice versa. It is to be hope Scotland is required to go through the usual time consuming procedure to recognized as a nation, should the vote for independence pass. No trade, let the Scots start from square one.

simplistic, naive and uninformed...the perfect trifecta.

Firing on Ft. Sumter was "peaceful"?

Britain faces a period of severe economic turbulence if Scotland votes for independence next week, economists warned, as the prospect of a Yes vote threatened a new financial crisis.

A report from a respected financial advisory firm said that investors were already pulling money out of the UK at the fastest pace since the "credit crisis" of 2008.

Scotland heading for a Great Depression after a Yes vote - Telegraph

LOL

The Bankers and the Tories are using these fear tactics.......Lions, Tigers and Bears.......Oh no........If there is market drops it will be these trying to destroy Scotland if they refuse to obey..........It's about Tax Revenues and the Euro and who has control.................

The Fiat machines chickens are coming home to roost and they will destroy anything that opposes them...........so they may very well crash shit just to try and make Scotland come back.

This disinformation campaign is working as the polls coming from Scotland are to vote no by a slim margin.

What changes if they vote yes......................The sun will still rise and set and the assets in Scotland will still be assets. The only thing that will change is the tax revenues to the UK..........and a country will refuse to accept the Euro dollar as it's currency...........

It's all manipulated, and the Euro was BS from day one. The Euro Nations should have kept their nations sovereign with their own currency. They've empowered the World Bank and IMF to determine their fate instead of themselves...........A mistake that should be corrected.