SCIENTISTS!!! Earth been COOLING for 2,000 years NOT warming!

[Charles_Main]

• Tree ring study gives first accurate climate reading back to 138BC
• World has been slowly cooling for 2,000 years
• World was warmer in Roman and Medieval times than it is now
• Study of semi-fossilised trees in Finland

'Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia.’

Tree-ring study proves that climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is in the modern industrial age | Mail Online

DUH of course the over all trend over 2000 years has been cooling, don't think that means there has been no Short Term Warming man.

 

[Charles_Main]

The AGW Faithers will NOT be deterred by mere facts.

Every single Scientific Society, every single National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world states that AGW is a fact, and that it represents a clear and present danger. Any yet you deny that it exists.

On what basis? Faith? Seems like you are projecting your own ignorance and cupidity.

Every scientific society, National Academy of science, and major university in the world once stated that it was scientific fact that the earth was flat.

The data didnt support them. It doesnt support you.

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,

oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.

 

[Liability]

HEY! DD! When the local solar maximum heads up, to where it was, 1998-2000, the Earth will heat the hell UP, no matter what political shit happens.

Political shit needed to re-green deserts and polluted areas, ALL FUCKING READY, but since that didn't happen, when the solar cycle goes up, we heat UP, and even if we stopped all emissions, the sea would still go up, several feet:

Seas will go up "several feet"??
We've been warned by your high priest AlGore the melting glaciers will raise the sea levels so his home he recently bought will be under water!

So with 5,773,000,000,000,000,000 (5.7 quintillion gallons in all the Ice caps,Glaciers),..
and it all melted it would add to all the oceans seas, bays with 321 quintillion gallons that would be equal to adding 1.74% to the oceans.

That is equal to adding to a 648,000 gallon Olympic sized pool at 9 feet 10 inches
2 inches!

In Florida the commonly used example, the gulf of Mexico is a depth of less then
100 feet for over 100 miles from shore. 1.74% increase of water due to melting of all glaciers would add 1.7 feet. NOT perceivable nor affecting life much less covering the state!

The total water supply of the world is 326 million cubic miles
(a cubic mile is an imaginary cube (a square box) measuring one mile on each side).
A cubic mile of water equals more than one trillion gallons.
Oceans, Seas, & Bays 321,000,000 1,338,000,000 -- 96.5
Ice caps, Glaciers, & Permanent Snow 5,773,000 24,064,000 68.7 1.74
Ground water 5,614,000 23,400,000 -- 1.7
Fresh 2,526,000 10,530,000 30.1 0.76
Saline 3,088,000 12,870,000 -- 0.94
Soil Moisture 3,959 16,500 0.05 0.001
Ground Ice & Permafrost 71,970 300,000 0.86 0.022
Lakes 42,320 176,400 -- 0.013
Fresh 21,830 91,000 0.26 0.007
Saline 20,490 85,400 -- 0.006
Atmosphere 3,095 12,900 0.04 0.001
Swamp Water 2,752 11,470 0.03 0.0008
Rivers 509 2,120 0.006 0.0002
Biological Water 269 1,120 0.003 0.0001

Seems like I have answered this dumb fuck post before. The average depth of the ocean is 14,000 ft.

How deep is the ocean?

So adding 1.7% more water to that would be around 250 ft to the sea level. Significant indeed. That would put about 170 feet of salt water over the roof of my house in Portland Oregon. There would not be much of Florida left.

Really be too much to expect of you dumb fuck 'Conservatives' to do a bit of research before you make asses of yourself.

You should heed your own advice, Moldy Socks.

According to the national snow and ice data center, about 99% of all fresh water ice on earth is in the combination of Antarctica and Greenland icesheets. http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html

An ice sheet is a mass of glacial land ice extending more than 50,000 square kilometers (20,000 square miles). The two ice sheets on Earth today cover most of Greenland and Antarctica. During the last ice age, ice sheets also covered much of North America and Scandinavia.

Together, the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets contain more than 99 percent of the freshwater ice on Earth. The Antarctic Ice Sheet extends almost 14 million square kilometers (5.4 million square miles), roughly the area of the contiguous United States and Mexico combined. The Antarctic Ice Sheet contains 30 million cubic kilometers (7.2 million cubic miles) of ice. The Greenland Ice Sheet extends about 1.7 million square kilometers (656,000 square miles), covering most of the island of Greenland, three times the size of Texas.

http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html

That's 66 feet.

While not insignificant, it's a DAMN far stretch from Moldy Socks' faked-up numbers, which he rounded up by the way.

Now, what is the fucking chance that the temperature in Antarctica will rise sufficiently to permit that much melting?

Effectively NONE.

the average temperature in Antarctica is -37°C, so the ice there is in no danger of melting. In fact in most parts of the continent it never gets above freezing.

-- HowStuffWorks "If the polar ice caps melted, how much would the oceans rise?"

 

[Freewill]

Satellite study of Asian mountains show that glaciers are NOT melting - and some are actually gaining new ice

Read more: Satellite study of Asian mountains show that glaciers are NOT melting - and some are actually gaining new ice | Mail Online

 

[BreezeWood]

The density measurements correlate closely with the summer temperatures in this area on the edge of the Nordic taiga; the researchers were thus able to create a temperature reconstruction of unprecedented quality.

- density measurements correlate closely with the summer temperatures ... of unprecedented quality.

was there a footnote explaining the above - temperatures rather than rain quantity ??? -

as without an explanation the entire study is without merit.

oh, if it did not rain ...

 

[Meister]

And this has to do with politics?

 

[edthecynic]

Every single Scientific Society, every single National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world states that AGW is a fact, and that it represents a clear and present danger. Any yet you deny that it exists.

On what basis? Faith? Seems like you are projecting your own ignorance and cupidity.

Every scientific society, National Academy of science, and major university in the world once stated that it was scientific fact that the earth was flat.

The data didnt support them. It doesnt support you.

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,

oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.

Liar!!!!!

 

[Old Rocks]

We have known for nearly two hundred years that there is something in the atmosphere that retains reflected and reradiated heat. For 150 years we have known what those compounds are. And for over one hundred years we have known aproximately how much increasing these compounds would increase the heat retention.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Virtually all the scientists in the world state that AGW is a fact. The major insurance companies are now stating that their records now show the start of the effects of the warming.

We see the effects in the glaciers worldwide, the Arctic and Anarctic Ice Caps, and the increase number and severity of extreme weather events.

Yet we have the fools here denying that any this matters or even exists. They actually believe that their political philosophy trumps reality. Even when they are experiancing that reality.

 

[Liability]

Every scientific society, National Academy of science, and major university in the world once stated that it was scientific fact that the earth was flat.

The data didnt support them. It doesnt support you.

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,

oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.

Liar!!!!!

It's not a lie, you fucking pinhead.

 

[Liability]

And this has to do with politics?

I guess it's an implicit confession by the AGW Faithers that what they are really attempting to do is to "use" their pseudo "science" to serve their leftwing political agenda.

 

[Wry Catcher]

• Tree ring study gives first accurate climate reading back to 138BC
• World has been slowly cooling for 2,000 years
• World was warmer in Roman and Medieval times than it is now
• Study of semi-fossilised trees in Finland

'Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia.’

Tree-ring study proves that climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is in the modern industrial age | Mail Online

What's your point? Why post this thread today? You have zero credibility on any topic upon which you post, for all of what you post is partisan. What if you're wrong?

The game being played by you and others on the right under any examination is evidence of hypocrisy, half-truths, lies and ignorance.

We on earth here today are here for only a short time, the damage we do to our air, water and soil will remain and impact future generations. The right worries about the debt we leave our children and grandchildren but never worry about the damage we leave behind. This is why you people are hypocrites. That your ignorance is in many cases willful, also speaks to the character of your kind.

Do you think your grandchildren's grandchildren will give a damn how much debt they inherited if they cannot breath clean air and the water they find is mostly polluted?

 

[edthecynic]

Satellite study of Asian mountains show that glaciers are NOT melting - and some are actually gaining new ice

Read more: Satellite study of Asian mountains show that glaciers are NOT melting - and some are actually gaining new ice | Mail Online

A couple of tidbits from your own link:

"Experts cautioned that the gain is so small that the glaciers might not actually be growing..."

"Earth's glaciers and ice caps are shedding roughly 150 billion tons of ice annually"

 

[Old Rocks]

Every single Scientific Society, every single National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world states that AGW is a fact, and that it represents a clear and present danger. Any yet you deny that it exists.

On what basis? Faith? Seems like you are projecting your own ignorance and cupidity.

Every scientific society, National Academy of science, and major university in the world once stated that it was scientific fact that the earth was flat.

The data didnt support them. It doesnt support you.

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,
oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.[/QUOTE

So why do you repeat that fucking lie, Charles?

As for the rest of your post, did you ever finish the sixth grade? For real! The depth of willfull ignorance you demonstrate is amazing.

Arctic Methane Emergency Group - AMEG - Home

 

[Liability]

Every scientific society, National Academy of science, and major university in the world once stated that it was scientific fact that the earth was flat.

The data didnt support them. It doesnt support you.

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,
oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.[/QUOTE

So why do you repeat that fucking lie, Charles?

As for the rest of your post, did you ever finish the sixth grade? For real! The depth of willfull ignorance you demonstrate is amazing.

Arctic Methane Emergency Group - AMEG - Home

I won't try to fix Moldy Socks' fucked up inability to use the quote function.

But repeating what Charles said doesn't establish that he lied or even that he was mistaken.

That Moldy Socks doesn't believe what Charles said is also not evidence that Charles was wrong, much less "lying."

 

[edthecynic]

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,

oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.

Liar!!!!!

It's not a lie, you fucking pinhead.

It is a lie, you fucking liar, and you know it because that lie has been debunked over and over again on this messageboard. It was mostly the MEDIA that warned of an Ice Age, Most scientific studies warned of global warming.

What were climate scientists predicting in the 1970s?

 

[Old Rocks]

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,

oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.

Liar!!!!!

It's not a lie, you fucking pinhead.

It is a lie, dumb fuck. By six to one the scientists of that period were predicting a warming. Most stated that there really wasn't enough understanding of the drivers of climate to make any credible predictions of rate or effects. That is no longer true.

 

[BlindBoo]

Every single Scientific Society, every single National Academy of Science, and every major University in the world states that AGW is a fact, and that it represents a clear and present danger. Any yet you deny that it exists.

On what basis? Faith? Seems like you are projecting your own ignorance and cupidity.

Every scientific society, National Academy of science, and major university in the world once stated that it was scientific fact that the earth was flat.

The data didnt support them. It doesnt support you.

More recently in the 70's these same Societies were convinced the Danger was a New Ice Age,

oh and to claim every Society and Academy agrees there is "a clear and present Danger" is not True. They may all agree on the Basic Idea of Warming, There is wide differences of Opinion on how it will effect us, and how soon.

The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming.

What were climate scientists predicting in the 1970s?

 

[edthecynic]

And this has to do with politics?

I guess it's an implicit confession by the AGW Faithers that what they are really attempting to do is to "use" their pseudo "science" to serve their leftwing political agenda.

Just another example of your complete lack of awareness.
It was one of your fellow CON$ervoFascist deniers who started this thread.

 

[Liability]

And this has to do with politics?

I guess it's an implicit confession by the AGW Faithers that what they are really attempting to do is to "use" their pseudo "science" to serve their leftwing political agenda.

Just another example of your complete lack of awareness.
It was one of your fellow [conservative] deniers who started this thread.

Which doesn't change the fact that it is inherently political BECAUSE of what you fully fraudulent AGW Faither scumbags are doing.

 

[Liability]

Liar!!!!!

It's not a lie, you fucking pinhead.

It is a lie, dumb fuck. By six to one the scientists of that period were predicting a warming. Most stated that there really wasn't enough understanding of the drivers of climate to make any credible predictions of rate or effects. That is no longer true.

No cockbite. It's not a lie. It's merely a statement YOU wish to disagree with.

You are dishonest and not very convincing.

You AGW Faithers are quite pathetic.