Scientific Discovey Race: American Conservatives versus European Socialists

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    Why will any news out of Europe embarrass and humiliate America? Because American Conservative's hostility to funding science and scientific discovery has put America in the place of a second rate nation.

    Science should not be ideological and political, but conservatives have found making science so in America equals higher expectations for turnout during elections. Motivate the base. What base? Ask Jesus' proselytizers and Ayn Rand's nitwit followers (Ron/Rand Paul anyone?) -- politics makes strange bedfellows.

    So when you see threads and posts about the GOD Particle, remember who calls for killing science research and technology.

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    God particle discovered (also the God asterisk)
    God particle discovered (also the God asterisk) - Achenblog - The Washington Post

    NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC (liberal science and discovery): Great primer on things here...
     
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    Take your political BullShit back to the proper forum.. The US SuperCollider was CHAMPIONED by Ronald Reagan and shot in the Head by a Democrat HOUSE in 1993...

    You'll hear nothing in the science section except the crickets chirping..
     
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    Republicans against science: GOP The Anti-Science Party

    Reagan? WTF? You forgot? Budget cutting madness!

    Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 983 to H.R. 2445 (Energy and Water Development Appropriations Act, 1994)

    Statement of Purpose: To reduce funds for General Science and Research Activities and terminate the Superconducting Super Collider program for the purposes of reducing the deficit in the Federal Budget.
    U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote

    How close was the vote to cancel the Superconducting Super Collider?
    Pretty close, at least in 1993 when they killed it. The Senate and House disagreed pretty starkly, and the decision to kill it that year wasn't determined until after a second conference committee.

    The House of Representatives voted three times in 1992 and 1993 to kill the SSC; the final pivotal vote was 159-264 (139 Cong. Rec. H8124 (daily ed. Oct. 19, 1993)). The Senate voted to rescue it each time; their last vote in favor was 57-42 (139 Cong. Rec. S12,760 (daily ed. Sept. 30, 1993)).

    How close was the vote to cancel the Superconducting Super Collider? - Quora

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    Year: 2011
    Republican-led House plans to cancel the James Webb Telescope

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    Republicans Against Science
    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    Published: August 28, 2011


    Jon Huntsman Jr., a former Utah governor and ambassador to China, isn’t a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination. And that’s too bad, because Mr. Hunstman has been willing to say the unsayable about the G.O.P. — namely, that it is becoming the “anti-science party.” This is an enormously important development. And it should terrify us.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/opinion/republicans-against-science.html
     
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    Budget deficits of Reagan years dictated the death of USA reputation in science.

    After 12 years of Reaganomics:

    The Superconducting Super Collider (SSC) (also nicknamed the Desertron[1]) was a particle accelerator complex under construction in the vicinity of Waxahachie, Texas that was set to be world's largest and most energetic, surpassing the current record held by the Large Hadron Collider. Its planned ring circumference was 87.1 kilometres (54.1 mi) with an energy of 20 TeV per proton. The project's director was Roy Schwitters, a physicist at the University of Texas at Austin and Harvard University. Dr. Louis Ianniello served as Associate Director.[2] The project was cancelled in 1993 due to budget problems.[3]

    Superconducting Super Collider - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Embryonic Stem Cells: 5 Misconceptions | LiveScience
     
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    Crickets eh?
     
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    nope
     
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    Democrats killed the SSC and NASA
     
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    Reaganomics and it's deficits killed things.

    With domestic programs, Reaganomics strategy was to balloon the budget deficits in order to force an across the board cut in ALL programs. It's why Reagan ballooned the military budget, so when the cuts came, the military would be protected by ALL other programs would be cut. It's how people who insist spending is the problem, think.

    facts: Paradox of Reagan Budgets: Austere Talk vs. Record Debt - New York Times
     
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