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    REAL big scary deal. Someone's dumb enough to think that's a reason to not worry about overpopulation
     
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    Well that's now the third question a lefty won't answer:

    1. What's a living wage?

    2. What temperature does the earth need to be?

    3. What's the maximum amount of people on earth?
     
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    1. Are you talking about just being able to maintain life, or one that allows you to have a life?

    2. A temperature at which we have a stable climate. Kind of like the last 10,000 years.

    3. The number at which all the people on earth have a reasonable chance of having a real life. I would say less than the number we have right now.

    Now, Mr. Bear, what are you proposals to make life better for all humans? Give the wealthy more money? Deny education to any but the wealthy? Have the population reach the point that a single catastrophe will result in hundreds of millions dying from starvation?
     
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    most of the rest of the world didn't suitable for growing food. That being said, we're living in the real world and everyone ISN'T going to live in Texas.
     
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    Thanks for responding ....

    1. I don't watch t.v. yet have a 50 inch in my living room and a 42 inch in my bedroom, I gave up on cable years ago, gave my step son my PlayStation 4 along with 30 games (his mom and I divorced 5 years ago) I went the entire summer with out turning on my A.C. in south Carolina..can I afford it yes...just don't need it anymore.

    So we would have to define what it takes some one to live and some one to maintain life.

    2. The climate has always changed the past 10,000 years, we just left an Ice age and had a mini one .... That's not stable...

    I am going to be direct with you but won't hurl insults.

    We got lucky but the earth will continue to change if we were here or not, to think man can keep it like it has been like for the past 10,000 years is insulting to science. Heck the earth flipped on her axis before.

    We are just humans we can not control or stop mother nature, yes We can stop pollution and do little things but to control earths climate? No way.

    3. Is easy like bono from U2 always says Africa needs capitalism.

    The poor country's need capitalism not hand outs but a hand up.
     
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    McDonalds and Safeway could figure it out.. Remember -- someday soon in the big scheme of things, the glaciers are gonna move right down to the Trump Wall anyway.. And we are gonna be crammed with Canucks and Yankees looking for a squat spot between Austin and the Rio Grande..
     
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    Quark Soup by David Appell: Mark Steyn's Expert Comes Up Short

    Here is a perfect example of the media protecting Mann against criticisms.

    Appell contacts scientist, scientist responds, Appell ignores answers and asks the same questions again, scientist responds again, Appell ignores answers, scientist gets tired of talking to a stone wall, Appell claims victory while hurling ad homs at the scientist. Standard MO.
     

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