"Science of GW is Cobblers!

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    Care to post something that is relative to the science? Bullshit is bullshit, thus far we have that is all you have presented.
     
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    I saw that one.

    Nice to see one of them climate experts that all the warmist kooks rely upon state the obvious: That water gives off heat much lees quickly than does the air.
     
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    For a minute there I thought you were talking about the science department of George Washington University - where I graduated from. Looks like just another bullshit Global Warming thread.
     
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    Bob Carter - SourceWatch

    Professor Robert (Bob) Carter, is "a researcher at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University", Australia. [1] In a byline with an op-ed published in the Sydney Morning Herald in September 2005, he was described as an "experienced environmental scientist" [2], but a March 2007 article in the same paper noted that "Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community." [3] He is a well known climate change skeptic.

    Carter was a speaker at the International Conference on Climate Change (2009), organized by the Heartland Institute think tank. [1] Carter is also listed as a speaker for the Heartland Institute's June 2009 Third International Conference on Climate Change.[2]

    Carter could well be described as "a prominent research geologist with a personal interest in the issue of climate change," from his list of research papers. He has extensive experience of paleoclimatic research, including participation in Ocean Drilling Program Leg 181 in the southwest Pacific, which described the benchmark 4 million year-long, mid-latitude climate record from Site 1119 [4].

    In 2005, Carter was appointed by the Australian Minister for Environment, Ian Campbell, as a judge for the Australian Government Peter Hunt Eureka Prize for Environmental Journalism. [5]

    In January 2006, Carter told the Australian newspaper that "atmospheric CO2 is not a primary forcing agent for temperature change," arguing instead that "any cumulative human signal is so far undetectable at a global level and, if present, is buried deeply in the noise of natural variation". [6]

    In March 2007 the Sydney Morning Herald reported that "Professor Carter told the Herald yesterday [March 14th 2007] the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had uncovered no evidence the warming of the planet was caused by human activity. He said the role of peer review in scientific literature was overstressed, and whether or not a scientist had been funded by the fossil fuel industry was irrelevant to the validity of research. 'I don't think it is the point whether or not you are paid by the coal or petroleum industry,' said Professor Carter. 'I will address the evidence.'" [7]

    Carter is a member of the right-wing think tank the Institute of Public Affairs [8], and a founding member of the Australian Environment Foundation, a front group set up by the Institute of Public Affairs.
     
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    Argumentum ad hominem (argument directed at the person). This is the error of attacking the character or motives of a person who has stated an idea, rather than the idea itself. The most obvious example of this fallacy is when one debater maligns the character of another debater (e.g, "The members of the opposition are a couple of fascists!"), but this is actually not that common. A more typical manifestation of argumentum ad hominem is attacking a source of information -- for example, responding to a quotation from Richard Nixon on the subject of free trade with China by saying, "We all know Nixon was a liar and a cheat, so why should we believe anything he says?" Argumentum ad hominem also occurs when someone's arguments are discounted merely because they stand to benefit from the policy they advocate -- such as Bill Gates arguing against antitrust, rich people arguing for lower taxes, white people arguing against affirmative action, minorities arguing for affirmative action, etc. In all of these cases, the relevant question is not who makes the argument, but whether the argument is valid.
     
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