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Here is one problem for you racists.
nutrition heavily effects intelligence.
nature or nurture?
Every time I hear this debate one name comes to mind that is never mentioned. Every since the start of testing statistics blacks have tested lower than whites. Never in one instance can you find a group of black students that test as well as white students. As the years go on the black students scores go up and down while the whites stay pretty much steady. This has been chalked up to blacks have lower intelligence than whites. Even blacks who get the same education test lower than whites, so what other explanation can there be? Enter Goeffery Canada and the Promise Academy. Canada took black 4th grade students that tested lower than average BLACK students. By 8th grade these same students out preformed EVERYONE!!!! Even the white students. Now Mr Canada has the educational world on it's head they are all running around trying find the reason he can take the worst students and make them the best. The Brookings institute did a study trying to debunk Mr Canada but they did 1 grade at 1 school the Harvard study was much more accurate and over a 4 year period. It showed progress and end result. So I guess if you that the PA's results with students.
Analyses
Dr. Fryer was able to obtain access to the New York City Department of Education data for Promise
Academy lottery applicants, regardless of their participation status. The requirement for a Promise
Academy entrance lottery affords an opportunity to compare the achievement of Promise Academy
attendees and non-attendees. The elementary school cohort was of particular interest to us, as these
students had spent their whole scholastic careers at Promise Academy (and many had also attended HCZ
early childhood programs).
In short order, he combined the lottery data HCZ provided with achievement, attendance, and grade
retention information from the DOE into a series of regression analyses. Dr. Fryer and his assistant, Will
Dobbie, used a variety of statistical models to examine all of these data.
To help contextualize our results, it is useful to know that effect sizes for interventions tend to be small.
For example, studies on small class size have found effect sizes around .22. In contrast, the racial
achievement gap is between .64 and .70 standard deviations in math and around .40 in ELA at school
entiy.
Dr. Fryer investigated performance of Promise Academy applicants over time, comparing their fourth
through eighth grade test results to those of white and black students citywide. More specifically, the test
results of (1) students who were accepted into Promise Academy and attended (compliers), (2) applicants
who were not accepted into Promise Academy and did not attend (non-compliers), (3) white students in
New York City, and (4) black students in New York City are presente
The following charts present historical mathematics test score data for Promise Academy students and for
several peer groups who were in the eighth grade in 2007-2008. The second chart differs from the first
only with regard to NYC white students: the first chart shows basic performance of all white students
while the second shows the results adjusted for socio-economic status (in general, white students have
more positive socio-economic indicators than black students).
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mean (which is indicated by a 0 on the chart), about .75 standard deviations behind New York City white
students, and slightly below black students in the 4th grade (before entry into Promise Academy, which
began at sixth grade). Over time, while NYC white and black students showed fiat performance from 4k"
to 8th grade, PA students experienced large improvements from year to year and were outperforming
white students by the 8thl grade (this is particularly true when we compare our students to the results of
NYC white students adjusted for socio-economic status)
Enter Goeffery Canada and the Promise Academy. Canada took black 4th grade students that tested lower than average BLACK students. By 8th grade these same students out preformed EVERYONE!!!!
Here is one problem for you racists.
nutrition heavily effects intelligence.
nature or nurture?
South Africa, Black average IQ 70
USA, Black average IQ 83
North Korea, average IQ 106
Here is one problem for you racists.
nutrition heavily effects intelligence.
nature or nurture?
South Africa, Black average IQ 70
No white genes, no white teachers (but, lots of white-made teaching materials and technology).
USA, Black average IQ 83
The vast majority of American Afros have significant white blood in them. Also, Afro-Americans enjoy the highest per student education spending in the world. (That's Afro-Americans, not White Americans.)
North Korea, average IQ 106
North Koreans are perhaps the most oppressed people in the world. And, hunger is a daily part of life in North Korea.
You haven't committed suicide yet. I am disappointed.
While they did say that historically Blacks are less intelligent and that their brains function differently on a genetic level they do not say that they are less intelligent, they simply explore the possibility. Men and womens brains also function differently are you saying men are smarter then women or vice versa?
Well, to continue the ACT analogy: Males and Females have about the same average scores.
However, according to the latest US Census, the average Female Householder (no spouse present) makes an average of $29K while her Male counterpart makes $41K. This leads one to consider that it might be more than ACT performance (academic potential) that seperates the financial success of races.
Of course, its their choice and Choice effects outcome, women choose jobs with a more flexible Schedule and work less hours, in contrast men work more dangerous jobs which tend to pay better and work more hours for the same job and thus men receive a bonus more often then women.
Oh and yeah that educational gap between whites and blacks is virtually nonexistent when testing students that are home schooled. Home schooled students test higher than public and private school students but black and white home schooled students test scores are about the same.
Well, to continue the ACT analogy: Males and Females have about the same average scores.
However, according to the latest US Census, the average Female Householder (no spouse present) makes an average of $29K while her Male counterpart makes $41K. This leads one to consider that it might be more than ACT performance (academic potential) that seperates the financial success of races.
Of course, its their choice and Choice effects outcome, women choose jobs with a more flexible Schedule and work less hours, in contrast men work more dangerous jobs which tend to pay better and work more hours for the same job and thus men receive a bonus more often then women.
Dangerous jobs "tend to pay better?"
You mean, like owning your own flower shop?
Those damned roses and their thorns!
On a practical level, we can look at the undergraduate GPAs and standardized test scores of various groups in law, medical, etc. schools.
Guess which group consistently gets admitted with the lowest GPAs? The highest?
Guess which group consistently passes the board/bar exams at significantly lower rate?
This is reality, not racism.
Correct. It is reality.
While more African Americans and Hispanics are taking the ACT, for example, their average score in 2003 was about 17 and it remaines there today, almost a decade later.
Increases in the AVERAGE ACT score (about 21) during the same period are a result of increasing scores and participation among Asian Americans.
It is also reality that African American families continue to be the lowest income earning racial group, while Asians are the highest ($38K vs 75k)
So the question becomes: is wealth a cause or effect of higher performance on the ACT?
The Science Channel's programming suggested that there are MINOR (not major, as stated in the OP) differences between how the brains of different races process information. There are also cultural differences between the different races that cause them to process information differently.
The real question is not whether or not there are differences, or even the magnetude of these differences, but how do individuals take control of their own lives to overcome these differences?
One fact is clear: Using government standardization clearly is NOT WORKING (see ACT and Wealth over the past decade).
two things stand out, at least to me. first the program cant be scaled up to include everyone. second, it is not clear to me that students receiving 50% more instruction should be compared to regular schools.
I am not saying anything bad about Canada, or the Harlem project. just be informed about the actual conditions involved.
Of course, its their choice and Choice effects outcome, women choose jobs with a more flexible Schedule and work less hours, in contrast men work more dangerous jobs which tend to pay better and work more hours for the same job and thus men receive a bonus more often then women.
Dangerous jobs "tend to pay better?"
You mean, like owning your own flower shop?
Those damned roses and their thorns!
No idea what your talking about there Esmeralda
Finally, the media is starting to come around, admitting that racial genetic differences cause IQ differences between the races. The episode on the science channel last Wednesday, hosted by Morgan Freeman, admits that genes code for differences in the brain the lead to differences in how the brains of the races function.
Is this a step toward recognizing that white Americans are not racist? And that blacks are just inherently less intelligent? Are we on the verge of ending affirmative action?
While they did say that historically Blacks are less intelligent and that their brains function differently on a genetic level they do not say that they are less intelligent, they simply explore the possibility. Men and womens brains also function differently are you saying men are smarter then women or vice versa?
IQ is what the test measures. How accurate it is at measuring intelligence, whatever that is, will forever be questioned. We do know that IQ scores are a function of two variables, heredity and environment. We know that IQ score differ by race. What we don't know is how much of the difference is due heredity and how much is due the environment.Finally, the media is starting to come around, admitting that racial genetic differences cause IQ differences between the races. The episode on the science channel last Wednesday, hosted by Morgan Freeman, admits that genes code for differences in the brain the lead to differences in how the brains of the races function.
Is this a step toward recognizing that white Americans are not racist? And that blacks are just inherently less intelligent? Are we on the verge of ending affirmative action?
IQ is what the test measures. How accurate it is at measuring intelligence, whatever that is, will forever be questioned. We do know that IQ scores are a function of two variables, heredity and environment. We know that IQ score differ by race. What we don't know is how much of the difference is due heredity and how much is due the environment.Finally, the media is starting to come around, admitting that racial genetic differences cause IQ differences between the races. The episode on the science channel last Wednesday, hosted by Morgan Freeman, admits that genes code for differences in the brain the lead to differences in how the brains of the races function.
Is this a step toward recognizing that white Americans are not racist? And that blacks are just inherently less intelligent? Are we on the verge of ending affirmative action?
What was the name of the program? I would like to see it.
The real question is what do we do about it. If we continue to ignore the differences, and tolerate the myth that the environment and white racism cause black poverty, then we will move forward down the path of social destruction. A large part of the federal government's welfare policies are directed at trying to overcome low black IQ. Obama's belief that blacks are victims of white American society - so-called critical race theory - drives his fanatical goal of transforming America. I believe the sane thing to do is to acknowledge racial differences in IQ - particularly between blacks and whites - and then devise solutions that do not contain as their premise the promise that someday it will lead to equal racial outcomes.
two things stand out, at least to me. first the program cant be scaled up to include everyone. second, it is not clear to me that students receiving 50% more instruction should be compared to regular schools.
I am not saying anything bad about Canada, or the Harlem project. just be informed about the actual conditions involved.
Oddly, the one thing that did not stand out for you was that black academic success happened at all regardless of "actual" conditions.
Any conditional difference means that the intellectual potential exists REGARDLESS OF CONDITIONS!
two things stand out, at least to me. first the program cant be scaled up to include everyone. second, it is not clear to me that students receiving 50% more instruction should be compared to regular schools.
I am not saying anything bad about Canada, or the Harlem project. just be informed about the actual conditions involved.
Oddly, the one thing that did not stand out for you was that black academic success happened at all regardless of "actual" conditions.
Any conditional difference means that the intellectual potential exists REGARDLESS OF CONDITIONS!
One has to be careful about interpreting the results of these kinds of programs. You can raise test scores by coaching children to become more familiar with the material covered on the test, and it will raise their test averages as expected, but there isn't any compelling evidence that I am aware of that it actually raises their IQ. It is IQ, or general intelligence, which is most highly correlated with academic and financial success, so without raising IQs we cannot expect significant diminishment in racial outcomes.
The real question is what do we do about it. If we continue to ignore the differences, and tolerate the myth that the environment and white racism cause black poverty, then we will move forward down the path of social destruction. A large part of the federal government's welfare policies are directed at trying to overcome low black IQ. Obama's belief that blacks are victims of white American society - so-called critical race theory - drives his fanatical goal of transforming America. I believe the sane thing to do is to acknowledge racial differences in IQ - particularly between blacks and whites - and then devise solutions that do not contain as their premise the promise that someday it will lead to equal racial outcomes.
Well, you're obviously an idiot.
First stupid comment was, "if we continue to ignore the differences."
Who is ignoring differences? I gave you the link to the fucking 2010 US CENSUS which breaks practically every nuance of the population, including POVERTY into RACIAL terms, and you think someone is "ignoring the differences?"
Second stupid comment was, "myth of environment .....causes black poverty." Hey, moron, POVERTY IS THE ENVIRONMENT OF BLACKS. Again, pay the fuck attention to census results. It will require reading skills that you possibly do not possess.
Finally, this idiotic proposition; "A large part of the federal government's welfare policies are directed at trying to overcome low black IQ." Asside from being nonsensical, and supported by nothing except your own limited imagination, it is simply false: Welfare policies are directed at trying to overcome POVERTY, you goddamn bonehead.
