Science Channel Acknowledges Major Racial Differences

Jun 19, 2012
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Finally, the media is starting to come around, admitting that racial genetic differences cause IQ differences between the races. The episode on the science channel last Wednesday, hosted by Morgan Freeman, admits that genes code for differences in the brain the lead to differences in how the brains of the races function.

Is this a step toward recognizing that white Americans are not racist? And that blacks are just inherently less intelligent? Are we on the verge of ending affirmative action?
 
Finally, the media is starting to come around, admitting that racial genetic differences cause IQ differences between the races. The episode on the science channel last Wednesday, hosted by Morgan Freeman, admits that genes code for differences in the brain the lead to differences in how the brains of the races function.

Is this a step toward recognizing that white Americans are not racist? And that blacks are just inherently less intelligent? Are we on the verge of ending affirmative action?

Of all the truths out there we dare not speak, the fact of lower black IQ is the most unmentionable.

But it's real.
 
So much misinformation and lack of understanding, it's hard to know where to start......

The 'rankings' are in terms of POPULATIONS, not individuals. And what do those rankings actually mean, anyway?

Is everyone here willing to accept the results of IQ tests as perfectly accurate? Why? What is your understanding of the methodology?

'Blacks on average score X points lower on IQ tests' - that is not the same thing as 'Blacks are not as smart as whites'. The second is one possible interpretation. There are others.

Before anyone could decide which is the most reliable interpretation, they'd have to investigate several possible interpretations.

And in any case, the 'average' by racial group is a construct, a synthesis - it exists only statistically.

Oh, and then there's the matter that there are what, seven? different types of intelligence. So which ones are most important in which settings?
 
The case for the genetic intellectual inferiority of the Afro species is unassailable, so it is vigorously suppressed by racists who want to condemn whites for the state of Afros.
 
So, how big is this 'point spread' - and how statistically significant is it, in terms of standard deviations?
 
So much misinformation and lack of understanding, it's hard to know where to start......

The 'rankings' are in terms of POPULATIONS, not individuals. And what do those rankings actually mean, anyway?

Is everyone here willing to accept the results of IQ tests as perfectly accurate? Why? What is your understanding of the methodology?

'Blacks on average score X points lower on IQ tests' - that is not the same thing as 'Blacks are not as smart as whites'. The second is one possible interpretation. There are others.

Before anyone could decide which is the most reliable interpretation, they'd have to investigate several possible interpretations.

And in any case, the 'average' by racial group is a construct, a synthesis - it exists only statistically.

Oh, and then there's the matter that there are what, seven? different types of intelligence. So which ones are most important in which settings?

populations not individuals.....exactly! the problem is that the black population disparity of outcomes is held up as proof of white racism when in fact the disparities are easily explained and predicted by the lower average intelligence of the black population. let individuals achieve according to their abilities, regardless of race.

are IQ tests perfect? not for individuals but very nearly so for large groups. the problem here is that people want to mix other traits in with intelligence, hence the 'seven types of intelligence'. 'g' is the basic brain horsepower, it influences all the decisions we make every day. life itself is an IQ test. greater intelligence is positively correlated to just about every social trait. some areas are not only correlated but have threshold levels of intelligence needed. an IQ80 individual of any race is not going to be able to learn calculus.
 
So, how big is this 'point spread' - and how statistically significant is it, in terms of standard deviations?

one standard deviation is considered about right. it is actually closer to 1.1 STD, depending on how highly 'g' loaded the test is. kids are more variable and it seems like blacks 'top out' at an earlier age than whites. the B/W gap increases with age and the average black adult has the logical and moral reasoning of a white 13 year old.
 
no we cant get rid of Afirmative action then whitey wont be able to get any scholarships to any school.Or even get a high paying job.
 
Brains functioning different = IQ differences how?

Well, for example, people with larger short-term memory, located in the prefrontal cortex, have higher IQs. If whites on average have larger short term memory then it enhances their IQ advantage over blacks.

yes, there is a different 'shape' to intelligence. blacks do as well as whites on the front digit span test, where you just repeat back a string of numbers in the same order. but there is a large gap when the numbers have to be repeated in reverse order.
 
no we cant get rid of Afirmative action then whitey wont be able to get any scholarships to any school.Or even get a high paying job.

I dont think we should get rid of affirmative action. but I do think it should be given out on an individual's achievement rather than as a racial quota. the tie should always go to a minority rather than 'no qualification necessary for a minority'.
 
Finally, the media is starting to come around, admitting that racial genetic differences cause IQ differences between the races. The episode on the science channel last Wednesday, hosted by Morgan Freeman, admits that genes code for differences in the brain the lead to differences in how the brains of the races function.

Is this a step toward recognizing that white Americans are not racist? And that blacks are just inherently less intelligent? Are we on the verge of ending affirmative action?
Perhaps one day we can rid the Earth of their scourge entirely. We'll keep Morgan Freeman around, though. Every bigot's got to have one black friend.
 
Brains functioning different = IQ differences how?

Well, for example, people with larger short-term memory, located in the prefrontal cortex, have higher IQs. If whites on average have larger short term memory then it enhances their IQ advantage over blacks.

yes, there is a different 'shape' to intelligence. blacks do as well as whites on the front digit span test, where you just repeat back a string of numbers in the same order. but there is a large gap when the numbers have to be repeated in reverse order.

Yep, that's where the g factor kicks in...the more complex the task, the wider the racial cognitive gap.
 
Well, for example, people with larger short-term memory, located in the prefrontal cortex, have higher IQs. If whites on average have larger short term memory then it enhances their IQ advantage over blacks.

yes, there is a different 'shape' to intelligence. blacks do as well as whites on the front digit span test, where you just repeat back a string of numbers in the same order. but there is a large gap when the numbers have to be repeated in reverse order.

Yep, that's where the g factor kicks in...the more complex the task, the wider the racial cognitive gap.

Is repeating back a list of 3 numbers in reverse order more complex than repeating back a list of 50 numbers in their original order?

I guess if it makes blacks look bad, then yes.
 
yes, there is a different 'shape' to intelligence. blacks do as well as whites on the front digit span test, where you just repeat back a string of numbers in the same order. but there is a large gap when the numbers have to be repeated in reverse order.

Yep, that's where the g factor kicks in...the more complex the task, the wider the racial cognitive gap.

Is repeating back a list of 3 numbers in reverse order more complex than repeating back a list of 50 numbers in their original order?

I guess if it makes blacks look bad, then yes.

The point is, repeating a list of numbers is strictly a task of memorization, whereas reciting them back in reverse order requires mentally manipulating the information and therefore greater processing power and intelligence. The task also requires no prior learning, so the results cannot be blamed on cultural factors.
 
no we cant get rid of Afirmative action then whitey wont be able to get any scholarships to any school.Or even get a high paying job.

I dont think we should get rid of affirmative action. but I do think it should be given out on an individual's achievement rather than as a racial quota. the tie should always go to a minority rather than 'no qualification necessary for a minority'.

It would be nice if we could find a way to help minorities without the aid of race-based affirmative action by tying assistance to socioeconomic satus rather than skin color. Blacks would get more of the benefit but poor whites could be helped as well.
 
I dont think we should get rid of affirmative action. but I do think it should be given out on an individual's achievement rather than as a racial quota. the tie should always go to a minority rather than 'no qualification necessary for a minority'.

There's no such thing as a tie between White people and Afros on qualifications.

Suppose you're an employer. A white person and an Afro apply for a job with you. Both have the same same degree from the same college. Are they equally qualified? Statistically, more than half the Afros at the college have SAT scores that are lower than the bottom quarter of white scores.

That Afro has only gotten to you with an "equal qualification" based on past special treatment.

Suppose the two applicants have the same degree from the same college, and you give them an employment test and they score equally on it (obviously, this is hypothetical). They're still not equally qualified. That Afro is far more likely to be a disruptive employee. For example, in the future, who do you think is most likely to sue you for discrimination in the workplace or steal from you? The white person, or the Afro?

Nope, the white person is more qualified, but you hire the Afro to protect yourself from the the government, unless you've already met the government's quota.
 

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