School drops the Pledge of Allegiance

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PORTLAND, Ore. - The exclusion of the Pledge of Allegiance from a southwest Portland elementary school's ceremony has proved upsetting for a local mom.

Departing fifth-graders at Capitol Hill Elementary usually open their promotion ceremony with the Pledge of Allegiance but not this year.


KATU tried repeatedly to talk with Principal Pam Wilson but got no results. However, in an e-mail response to Reese's questions, she explained the pledge was removed "out of respect for the diversity of religious faiths."


Local mom concerned after school drops the Pledge of Allegiance | KATU.com - Portland, Oregon | News


I didnt know the Pledge of Allegiance was a pledge to ANY religion?

 

[Shogun]

maybe we should remove the PROBLEM and start using the original pledge instead of the butchered one..

 

[editec]

I didnt know the Pledge of Allegiance was a pledge to ANY religion?

In it's original form it wasn't.

The term "under God" , which is what I think some people object to, was added in the 1950's.

 

[Shogun]

not to mention.. that it was written BY a socialist.

 

[MsWikia]

A lot of schools stop saying the Pledge of Allegiance aloooong time ago. I'm surprised that this school just now stopped.

 

[AllieBaba]

Gosh, makes me so proud to be an Oregonian.

What a bunch of goose-stepping, bigoted, American hating POSes.

 

[Shogun]

yea.. it's the bigotted ones that want to open public education, and the frickin pledge, to more than just dogma junkies.


suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.


like I said.. lets go back to the ORIGINAL version.. You know, the one where allegiance to the US does not hinge on some mythical jewish ghost.

 

[AllieBaba]

The schools did (for the most part) already go back to the original version.
If they eliminate it altogether, then they should call themselves private and stop taking federal dollars to operate.

 

[jillian]

yea.. it's the bigotted ones that want to open public education, and the frickin pledge, to more than just dogma junkies.


suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.


like I said.. lets go back to the ORIGINAL version.. You know, the one where allegiance to the US does not hinge on some mythical jewish ghost.

Does it bother you more that it's a ghost ... or that it's a jewish ghost? just wondering since you always make mention of that.

And just on the thread topic... the gdless libs here in NYC say the pledge... just sayin'

 

[AllieBaba]

It bothers him because the Devil sticks him every time he thinks about God.

 

[jillian]

I can see how that type of aversive conditioning could be effective.

 

[Shogun]

good grief.

if the primary deity pushed around in the states were hindu id be poking fun at hose characters too. you can reserve your martyr complex for other threads.

 

[AllieBaba]

"One nation..under The Great Spirit......with liberty and justice for all."
"One nation...under the weird Hindu monkey god.....with liberty and justice for all."

Nope, they just don't sound as awesome.

 

[Shogun]

and still, not as AWESOME as the original..

Bellamy's original Pledge read, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. America"

 

[AllieBaba]

I've no problem with that.
I do have a problem with federally funded schools which refuse to teach the pledge of allegience to their students because the superintendent hates America.

 

[Shogun]

it's not America that they hate, baba.. it's having prothletise for the sake of your dogma. Remove the injected bullshit and the pledge would be a non issue.

 

[AllieBaba]

No, it's not. It's America, or they'd just remove the tiny reference.

 

[Shogun]

THEY can't just "remove" the tiny reference, baba. Like I said, YOU and your thumper biddies remove it and the pledge will become a non-issue. Do you thnk I hate America, baba? Or, is it more likely that I resent having to pair my loyalty with YOUR religious bullshit.

 

[BrianH]

Look, rather than non-believers being a bunch of pussy-footed whiners, why don't they just exclude the frickin words "under-God" when they say the pledge. It's just as equivalent as not going to church on Sunday. The majority of people do, you don't. Nobody's holding a gun to their head and making them say it. Hell, no body even makes them say the pledge. My wife had a child in her class that refused to say the pledge, or participate in any parties or holiday events...does that mean we have to stop having parties and holiday parties because one kid doesn't believe in it. Should we spoil all of the fun for other (the majority) of kids for one? It pisses me off when people whine about bull shit like this. Believers (most) don't sit there and bitch at a kid for not saying the pledge or praying at a football game, why can't non-believers do the same. Say the pledge, and just omit "under-GOd" when you say it, simple as that. Why does people have to be such tity-babies about this stuff.

 

[jillian]

Look, rather than non-believers being a bunch of pussy-footed whiners, why don't they just exclude the frickin words "under-God" when they say them. Nobody's holding a gun to their head and making them say it. Hell, no body even makes them say the pledge. My wife had a child in her class that refused to say the pledge, or participate in any parties or holiday events...does that mean we have to stop having parties and holiday parties because one kid doesn't believe in it. Should we spoil all of the fun for other (the majority) of kids for one? It pisses me off when people whine about bull shit like this. Believers (most) don't sit there and bitch at a kid for not saying the pledge or praying at a football game, why can't non-believers do the same. Say the pledge, and just omit "under-GOd" when you say it, simple as that. Why does people have to be such tity-babies about this stuff.

I don't think it's that non-believers are whiners. I think in every group,there are people who need to vocalize. I think some things aren't worth bothering about. Given the nefarious beginnings of the "under G-d" section of the pledge, I say the parts around it, myself. No biggie... and it has nothing to do with belief, since I'm a believer. Just my own little private protest against the McCarthy Era.