School Choice

[Thunderbird]

Let's empower students and parents instead of tired, bloated bureaucracies. Why should only the rich have school choice? Competition is better than monopoly: school choice means bad schools go out of business and good schools thrive.

Check out the article: Education at a Crossroads | RealClearPolitics

 

[Wry Catcher]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

 

[Cellblock2429]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

/---- How stupid.

 

[NoNukes]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

I used to think this about home schooling. It is no longer true. We homeschooled our daughter for 2 years, and now she is back in mainstream education.

 

[Wry Catcher]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

/---- How stupid.

That's not a rebuttal, it's an ad hominem, aka, a logical fallacy. School choice exists now, did when I went to school in the 1950's and this has never changed.

Those who want to send their kids to private schools have ever right to do so. The argument is they want the taxpayer to pay for the costs, when the taxpayer is already paying the school district which provides free public education to every child in its district. Taking money from the public school system is the goal of those who argue for "school choice".

I am not arguing the public school system is the best it can be, but this argument for "school choice" is based on false pathos (oh, the poor black child is stuck in a low performing school, is bullshit - it is the white parent so fearful of cultures, races an ethnic differences they want to protect their child from our diverse and multi society).

Public education has adapted, by allowing the creation of Charter Schools and providing AP Classes, remedial classes, etc. and allowing disabled children to attend the public school. The call for "school choice" is a call for segregation, those who want to shield their child from reality have every right to do so, and risk creating bigots and young adults not ready to adapt to a sheltered environment.

 

[Cellblock2429]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

/---- How stupid.

That's not a rebuttal, it's an ad hominem, aka, a logical fallacy. School choice exists now, did when I went to school in the 1950's and this has never changed.

/--- Playing the race card to defend the liberal agenda is tiresome. Got anything new to add?

 

[Wry Catcher]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

/---- How stupid.

That's not a rebuttal, it's an ad hominem, aka, a logical fallacy. School choice exists now, did when I went to school in the 1950's and this has never changed.

/--- Playing the race card to defend the liberal agenda is tiresome. Got anything new to add?

Nope, what you consider "tiresome" is denial.

My question is this: Is your denial a defense mechanism or a damn lie?

 

[Penelope]

In late 2011, Michigan lawmakers removed limits on how many charters can operate here —opening the door to a slew of new management companies. In 2013-14, the state had 296 charters operating some 370 schools — in 61% of them, charter boards have enlisted a full-service, for-profit management company. Another 17% rely on for-profits for other services, mostly staffing and human resources, according to Free Press research.

Michigan far exceeds states like Florida, Ohio and Missouri, where only about one-third of charters were run by a full-service, for-profit management company in 2011-12, according to research by Western Michigan University professor Gary Miron, who has studied charters extensively.

Michigan spends $1B on charter schools but fails to hold them accountable

For profit schools. Devos is going to ruin public schools, that is her agenda.

 

[Thunderbird]

Those who want to send their kids to private schools have ever right to do so. The argument is they want the taxpayer to pay for the costs, when the taxpayer is already paying the school district which provides free public education to every child in its district. Taking money from the public school system is the goal of those who argue for "school choice".

Stop talking nonsense.

Link: New Research Shows Additional Benefits of School Choice | The Heritage Foundation

Quote: Dr. Aud, a professor at Johns Hopkins University, studied eleven school voucher programs in eight states. She found that the programs saved state and local taxpayers $444 million from 1990 to 2006-$22 million for state budgets and $422 million for local school districts. Those savings mean that more can be spent on those students who do remain in public schools.

I am not arguing the public school system is the best it can be, but this argument for "school choice" is based on false pathos (oh, the poor black child is stuck in a low performing school, is bullshit -

Why do you want to deprive minority students of opportunity?

Urban minorities benefit most from Catholic schools

You must be a hate-filled bigot.

it is the white parent so fearful of cultures, races an ethnic differences they want to protect their child from our diverse and multi society).

Public education has adapted, by allowing the creation of Charter Schools and providing AP Classes, remedial classes, etc. and allowing disabled children to attend the public school. The call for "school choice" is a call for segregation, those who want to shield their child from reality have every right to do so, and risk creating bigots and young adults not ready to adapt to a sheltered environment.

Stupid in so many ways.

The existing public school monopoly system is segregated. Try to get your facts straight.

America's public schools remain highly segregated

You are defending a segregated system. You are defending the corrupt, failed status quo.

 

[Thunderbird]

Maybe the U.S. can learn from other countries.

School Choice: Learning from Other Countries

 

[Thunderbird]

Thinking Democrats favor school choice: Vouchers Gain Foothold Among State, Local Democrats

 

[Unkotare]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

/---- How stupid.

That's not a rebuttal, it's an ad hominem, aka, a logical fallacy. School choice exists now, did when I went to school in the 1950's and this has never changed.

Those who want to send their kids to private schools have ever right to do so. The argument is they want the taxpayer to pay for the costs, when the taxpayer is already paying the school district which provides free public education to every child in its district. Taking money from the public school system is the goal of those who argue for "school choice".

I am not arguing the public school system is the best it can be, but this argument for "school choice" is based on false pathos (oh, the poor black child is stuck in a low performing school, is bullshit - it is the white parent so fearful of cultures, races an ethnic differences they want to protect their child from our diverse and multi society).

Public education has adapted, by allowing the creation of Charter Schools and providing AP Classes, remedial classes, etc. and allowing disabled children to attend the public school. The call for "school choice" is a call for segregation, those who want to shield their child from reality have every right to do so, and risk creating bigots and young adults not ready to adapt to a sheltered environment.

Talk about illogical....


You think you know the motivation of every parent who wants any degree of choice in their children's education? Don't mention logic if you don't understand it yourself.

 

[Thunderbird]

Wasting taxpayer dollars: Study: School administrative bloat increased 700 percent since 1950

 

[Wry Catcher]

Those who want to send their kids to private schools have ever right to do so. The argument is they want the taxpayer to pay for the costs, when the taxpayer is already paying the school district which provides free public education to every child in its district. Taking money from the public school system is the goal of those who argue for "school choice".

Stop talking nonsense.

Link: New Research Shows Additional Benefits of School Choice | The Heritage Foundation

Quote: Dr. Aud, a professor at Johns Hopkins University, studied eleven school voucher programs in eight states. She found that the programs saved state and local taxpayers $444 million from 1990 to 2006-$22 million for state budgets and $422 million for local school districts. Those savings mean that more can be spent on those students who do remain in public schools.

I am not arguing the public school system is the best it can be, but this argument for "school choice" is based on false pathos (oh, the poor black child is stuck in a low performing school, is bullshit -

Why do you want to deprive minority students of opportunity?

Urban minorities benefit most from Catholic schools

You must be a hate-filled bigot.

it is the white parent so fearful of cultures, races an ethnic differences they want to protect their child from our diverse and multi society).

Public education has adapted, by allowing the creation of Charter Schools and providing AP Classes, remedial classes, etc. and allowing disabled children to attend the public school. The call for "school choice" is a call for segregation, those who want to shield their child from reality have every right to do so, and risk creating bigots and young adults not ready to adapt to a sheltered environment.

Stupid in so many ways.

The existing public school monopoly system is segregated. Try to get your facts straight.


America's public schools remain highly segregated

You are defending a segregated system. You are defending the corrupt, failed status quo.

A. The Heritage Foundation is partisan
B. Catholic schools are non profits.
C. Not all, it depends on each school board to establish boundaries and.or allow parents to choose where their child goes to schoo.

 

[bodecea]

Let's empower students and parents instead of tired, bloated bureaucracies. Why should only the rich have school choice? Competition is better than monopoly: school choice means bad schools go out of business and good schools thrive.

Check out the article: Education at a Crossroads | RealClearPolitics

Nothing wrong with school choice. Public schools should have the same power private schools have to choose what students they take and keep.

 

[Thunderbird]

We are badly in need of reform: USATODAY.com - U.S. tops the world in school spending but not test scores

 

[Thunderbird]

A. The Heritage Foundation is partisan

You dismiss those with a different viewpoint. You must have a closed mind.

B. Catholic schools are non profits.

Your point?

C. Not all, it depends on each school board to establish boundaries and.or allow parents to choose where their child goes to schoo.

Is the existing public school system largely segregated or not? Yes or no?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

School choice is a euphemism for segregation.

The only choice people like you want the masses to have when it comes to their children is whether or not to suck them out of their womb before they're born.

 

[Care4all]

Are private schools and charter schools subjected to the same testing, of "No child Left Behind" legislation as the Public Schools are...?

If they are NOT, and people think these private schools are BETTER schools than Public Schools, then why not ELIMINATE the rules for no child left behind in the Public Schools? Or why not force the Private schools getting our tax dollars to meet the same testing standards required for Public Schools?

It should be apples to apples so the parents can be informed on a level basis, what school to choose for their child.

 

[bodecea]

Are private schools and charter schools subjected to the same testing, of "No child Left Behind" legislation as the Public Schools are...?

If they are NOT, and people think these private schools are BETTER schools than Public Schools, then why not ELIMINATE the rules for no child left behind in the Public Schools? Or why not force the Private schools getting our tax dollars to meet the same testing standards required for Public Schools?

It should be apples to apples so the parents can be informed on a level basis, what school to choose for their child.

Or.....set up our schools like those in countries we seem to admire their school test results so much.