Schiavo Autopsy Released - No Abuse

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050615/ap_on_re_us/schiavo_autopsy

LARGO, Fla. -

Terri Schiavo did not suffer any trauma prior to her 1990 collapse and her brain was about half of normal size when she died, according to results released Wednesday of an autopsy conducted on the severely brain-damaged woman.

Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin concluded that there was no evidence of strangulation or other trauma leading to her collapse. He also said she did not appear to have suffered a heart attack and there was no evidence that she was given harmful drugs or other substances prior to her death.

Autopsy results on the 41-year-old brain damaged woman were made public Wednesday, more than two months after Schiavo's death ended an internationally watched right-to-die battle that engulfed the courts, Congress and the White House and divided the country.

She died from dehydration, he said.

He said she would not have been able to eat or drink if she had been given food by mouth as her parents' requested.

"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

Thogmartin said that Schiavo's brain was about half of its expected size when she died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed.

"The brain weighed 615 grams, roughly half of the expected weight of a human brain. ... This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."
 
The headline should read "Autopsy shows removing feeding tube was the right thing to do."
 
But what caused her collapse 15 years earlier remained a mystery. The autopsy and post-mortem investigation found no proof that she had an eating disorder, as was suspected at the time, Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin said.
You mean like the husband said she had?
 
"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

Thogmartin said that Schiavo's brain was about half of its expected size when she died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed.

"The brain weighed 615 grams, roughly half of the expected weight of a human brain. ... This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."
Sad but true....Now can she be layed to rest?
 
OCA said:
Wow! Looks like I was right all along. Religious zealots will still complain about a conspiracy though :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:

She was railroaded into death by judges who refused to even reconsider the data. More due diligence is given death row inmates and that's a travesty.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
She was railroaded into death by judges who refused to even reconsider the data. More due diligence is given death row inmates and that's a travesty.

Well so much for listening to the facts, the data is out there now, she was a fucking veggie without a shred of a chance for recovery. :alco:
 
OCA said:
Well so much for listening to the facts, the data is out there now, she was a fucking veggie without a shred of a chance for recovery. :alco:

This data has nothing to do with how the case was handled by the judiciary. They refused to do new medical exams and relied on the testimony from one doctor on one examination for each new appeal. That's wrong.
 
OCA said:
Well so much for listening to the facts, the data is out there now, she was a fucking veggie without a shred of a chance for recovery. :alco:

Nobody is a "fucking veggie". Learn to respect human life OCA.

Sure, her mind became half the size AFTER 12 years of total neglect by a husband who wanted to do away with her after the settlement, who refused her any rehab of any kind. Who knows if she may have recovered or not if she had received the proper treatment earlier?

Just because she was in a vegetative state does not make it right to painfully dehydrate/starve an otherwise healthy person to death for two long painful weeks for her herself and her entire family.

It still doesn't make it right to not allow ALL the evidence, statements, and whatnot come again before a new court that will again review everything in a CONTESTED matter over the LIFE OR DEATH of a person.

Thogmartin (the examiner) still says he does not know what caused Terri's collapse.

http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200506/NAT20050615d.shtml
 
The medical examiners were from the same county and had connections to the case and convelescent center Terri was in..
Second...there have been numerous documented cases over the years where persons operated quite well with only 1/2 of their brain mass intact...Many neurosurgeons have differing opinions on brain function and activity...
This case is still up for debate...actually if a person was smothered and no damage to bones ie:fractures were present...well a autopsy 15 years later would show no evidence of trauma... :rolleyes: :huh:
 
ScreamingEagle said:
Nobody is a "fucking veggie". Learn to respect human life OCA.

Sure, her mind became half the size AFTER 12 years of total neglect by a husband who wanted to do away with her after the settlement, who refused her any rehab of any kind. Who knows if she may have recovered or not if she had received the proper treatment earlier?

Just because she was in a vegetative state does not make it right to painfully dehydrate/starve an otherwise healthy person to death for two long painful weeks for her herself and her entire family.

It still doesn't make it right to not allow ALL the evidence, statements, and whatnot come again before a new court that will again review everything in a CONTESTED matter over the LIFE OR DEATH of a person.

Thogmartin (the examiner) still says he does not know what caused Terri's collapse.


At what point does quality of life come to play? You said she was "in a vegetative state" - let's forget everything before..we don't know what happened. But since she was "in a vegetative state", do you feel she should have been kept alive? Like that?

You also said, "an othewise healthy person." How can you say that someone is in a vegetative state but be othewise healthy?

That is like saying "almost pregnant."

At some point, people need to think of "quality of life" as much as "life" itself.
 
archangel said:
The medical examiners were from the same county and had connections to the case and convelescent center Terri was in..
Second...there have been numerous documented cases over the years where persons operated quite well with only 1/2 of their brain mass intact...Many neurosurgeons have differing opinions on brain function and activity...
This case is still up for debate...actually if a person was smotherered and no damage to bones ie:fractures were present...well a autopsy 15 years later would show no evidence of trauma... :rolleyes: :huh:

time to apologize to her husband he was right you were wrong.

How about that?
 
archangel said:
The medical examiners were from the same county and had connections to the case and convelescent center Terri was in..
Second...there have been numerous documented cases over the years where persons operated quite well with only 1/2 of their brain mass intact...Many neurosurgeons have differing opinions on brain function and activity...
This case is still up for debate...actually if a person was smotherered and no damage to bones ie:fractures were present...well a autopsy 15 years later would show no evidence of trauma... :rolleyes: :huh:

I don't think we want to go there. Calling someone guilty of murder because of a crime they may have committed 15 years ago even though the crime that person may or may not have committed wouldn't have left any physical evidence?

You might as well ask someone to prove a negative.

It can't be done.
 
nosarcasm said:
time to apologize to her husband he was right you were wrong.

How about that?


Apologize for what? I do not know the man nor do I care to!
His attitude during this whole case was atrocious to say the least....and the exam proves absolutely nothing...from a former law enforcement officers opinion!
 
GotZoom said:
I don't think we want to go there. Calling someone guilty of murder because of a crime they may have committed 15 years ago even though the crime that person may or may not have committed wouldn't have left any physical evidence?

You might as well ask someone to prove a negative.

It can't be done.


No statue of limitations on murder...many documented cases of murder were solved many years(Decades) after the crime was committed...! :wtf:
 
archangel said:
Apologize for what? I do not know the man nor do I care to!
His attitude during this whole case was atrocious to say the least....and the exam proves absolutely nothing...from a former law enforcement officers opinion!

you slander his name by claiming he murdered his wife with no evidence
to back it up. Gut feelings are not a good advisor.
 

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