Scare Tactics, No One Really Wants To Hurt US

Annie

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/16/AR2005091601286.html

Student Arrested After Pilot Uniform Found

The Associated Press
Friday, September 16, 2005; 9:13 PM

MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- A university student from Egypt was ordered held without bond after prosecutors said they found a pilot's uniform, chart of Memphis International Airport and a DVD titled "How an Airline Captain Should Look and Act" in his apartment.

The FBI is investigating whether Mahmoud Maawad, 29, had any connection to terrorists. He is awaiting trial on charges of wire fraud and fraudulent use of a Social Security number.

Maawad, who is in the United States illegally, told the judge during a hearing Thursday that he is studying science and economics at the University of Memphis.

"My school is everything. I stay in this country for seven years; I stay for the school," he said.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Steve Parker said Thursday that the airport-related items were found during a Sept. 9 search.

"The specific facts and circumstances are scary," Parker said.

U.S. Magistrate Judge S. Thomas Anderson ruled that Maawad be held without bond.

"It is hard for the court to understand why he has a large concentration of those (aviation) items, and nothing else to indicate Mr. Maawad plans to stay in the community," Anderson said.

Maawad had ordered $3,000 in aviation materials, including DVDs titled "Ups and Downs of Takeoffs and Landings," "Airplane Talk," "Mental Math for Pilots" and "Mastering GPS Flying," FBI agent Thad Gulczynski testified.

The company reported Maawad to authorities when he didn't pay for $2,500 of merchandise it had delivered, Gulczynski said.
 
A little more:

http://www.memphisflyer.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid:10165

Egyptian "pilot747" is the second Memphis Muslim held without bond because of suspected terrorist connections.

BY JOHN BRANSTON | SEPTEMBER 23, 2005


Exhibit A: Mahmoud Maawad, an Egyptian student at the University of Memphis living illegally in the United States for six years with a bogus Social Security number, got an apartment near campus -- and a few miles from Memphis International Airport. He furnished it with nothing more than a bedroll and a computer, which he used to order $3,300 worth of pilot gear over the Internet, including a DVD titled How an Airline Captain Should Look and Act and a map of the airport terminal even though he is not a pilot. He gave the vendor, Sporty's Pilot Shop, an overdrawn debit card and used the e-mail address "pilot747."

Exhibit B: Rafat Mawlawi, a U.S. citizen with dual citizenship in Syria, lived in a quiet neighborhood near Craigmont High School. Because he has a felony conviction, he is not supposed to own firearms, but he kept a shotgun and three loaded handguns in a safe in his home. He also kept a 1997 photograph of himself shouldering a rocket-powered grenade launcher in Bosnia while standing next to an associate of Osama bin Laden, $34,000 in cash, and al Mujahadeen videotapes in Arabic. When federal agents arrested him at his home in April, he lied to them before admitting he was moving to Syria.

So what do we have here? Two cases of post-9/11 criminal stupidity? Two cases of an overzealous Terrorism Task Force trying to justify all the money spent on counter-terrorism by locking up a couple of Muslims? Or two terrorism suspects?

The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and the United States Attorney's Office in Memphis are not taking any chances. Maawad was jailed without bond last week. Mawlawi has been in the federal correctional institution in Mason, Tennessee, without bond since April. Neither defendant is charged with terrorism. Maawad, 29, was charged with wire fraud and fraudulent use of a Social Security number. He has pleaded not guilty and is not likely to go to trial for several weeks. Mawlawi, 55, was charged with illegal possession of firearms, immigration violations, and conspiracy to organize a sham-marriage scam involving Memphis women and Middle Eastern men. His trial is set for October 3rd.

Federal prosecutors and FBI agents won't comment outside of the courtroom. Attempts by the Flyer to interview Mawlawi in prison have been discouraged by prison officials and his attorneys, Lorna McClusky and Bill Massey. Mawlawi said in a letter to the Flyer that he would like to talk. His brother Nabil, who owns a sandwich shop in Bartlett, has been trying to arrange an interview but without success.

Nabil Mawlawi, an American citizen, said his brother is not a terrorist sympathizer. Rafat Mawlawi served 12 years in the U.S. Navy and was honorably discharged. His 1993 arrest record stemmed from a divorce and some missed court appearances. He got five months probation on a fraud conviction. His brother explained the photograph with the rocket launcher as the sort of macho souvenir picture that an American hunter, gangster-wannabe, or paramilitary freak might have. Rafat Mawlawi was teaching school in Bosnia after the war, when weapons were plentiful. As for the videos, Nabil Mawlawi does not condone them but says that such material is readily available on the Internet and that his brother was probably motivated by simple curiosity.

Mahmoud Maawad spoke on his own behalf at his hearing last week. He said he is a full-time student at the University of Memphis and worked for cash at a convenience store on Chelsea in North Memphis. He admitted he is in the United States illegally and was busted in March for selling liquor to a minor. He said his bogus Social Security number was issued to him as a student ID number in 1998 when he was in New Jersey. Somehow he used it to get utilities and a debit card and enroll in school. He entered the United States at New York City from Egypt in 1998, and his visitor's visa expired in 1999.

Assistant U.S. attorney Steve Parker said Maawad failed to register at the U of M as an international student as required and was working illegally. He has no family in Memphis. "His entire presence in this country has been one unlawful thing after another," he said.

Maawad lived in Olive Branch, Mississippi, for an unknown length of time before moving in June to an apartment at 3557 Mynders. An FBI agent testified that the apartment did not have furniture, a television, a bed, or a clock. Agents who searched it found a bedroll on the floor, a few clothes, a desk and chair, and shelves containing DVDs and books that Maawad bought over the Internet between June 25th and August 6th of 2005.

Sporty's Pilot Shop in Batavia, Ohio, sells educational materials and equipment to private pilots, according to spokesman Bill Anderson. Maawad ran up $2,500 worth of purchases on his debit card and tried to buy another $800 worth of items before Sporty's Pilot Shop rejected his card and notified the FBI. The purchases included a private-pilot course, flight-simulator software, a flight gear bag, radio communications handbook, maps of the Memphis airport, a Navy flight jacket, the DVD How an Airline Captain Should Look and Act, and instructional programs on "airplane talk."

Memphis is the number-one cargo airport in the world. Hundreds of jets from FedEx, UPS, and passenger airlines take off and land every day. Earlier this summer, a front-page story in The Wall Street Journal outlined how FedEx is one of the federal government's key partners in the war against terrorism and how they share information about possible terrorism activities.

It's no wonder that Parker described this case as "scary."
 
prime example as to why being PC should be considered a threat to our nation! Profiling even though it appears on the surface as something that should be discouraged...in fact is something(a useful tool) that should be encouraged by the public at large...if this is not a good case for ethinic profiling nothing will save us!
IMO
 
Kathianne said:
So many are trying to sell
Who says nobody wants to hurt us exactly?
Ive stated that they are not a threat to our country's SURVIVAL.
Sure they want to hurt us, lots of people do, and we will always have enemies.
We shouldnt try to seek them all out, it will take forever, and ever.

Finding another determined terrorist IN the united states is troubling though.
Thought we were supposed to 'get the terrorists, before they come here'...thats obviously false, again.

archangel said:
prime example as to why being PC should be considered a threat to our nation! Profiling even though it appears on the surface as something that should be discouraged...in fact is something(a useful tool) that should be encouraged by the public at large...if this is not a good case for ethinic profiling nothing will save us!
IMO
PC? :tinfoil:
 
xen said:
Who says nobody wants to hurt us exactly?
Ive stated that they are not a threat to our country's SURVIVAL.
Sure they want to hurt us, lots of people do, and we will always have enemies.
We shouldnt try to seek them all out, it will take forever, and ever.

Finding another determined terrorist IN the united states is troubling though.
Thought we were supposed to 'get the terrorists, before they come here'...thats obviously false, again.


PC? :tinfoil:

No tinfoil. Unlike some of you lefties and your conspiracy theories, the threat of terrorism is real, and if you cannot see how it has already changed our Nation, you're blind. Can you say "Patriot Act?"

If we are forced to change our laws in an attempt to thwart terrorists, then we as a society evolve/devolve into something that does not represent the current laws and beliefs of this Nation. As the society we are currently, we cease to exist.

Then there is the fact that the terrorism we face is from Islamic fundamnetalist nutjobs who believe Allah will reward them for killing themselves to destroy us. At least one fundamentalist Nation hostlie to the US/Western society is on the verge of possessing nuclear weapons. Islamic fundamentalism combined with the threat of nuclear weapons is a threat to EVERYONE.

Bill Clinton was the latest-greatest one to attempt ignoring the goings-on in the Middle East. The culminiating event of allowing them to conspire unhindered was 9/11.

When you got snakes in the yard, you kill them. Only a dolt would walk by them every day assuming that since he left them alone they wouldn't strike.
 

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