Savage VS CAIR - Your Thoughts

Free speech is like the free market they are abstractions only.

"All that makes existence valuable to anyone depends on the enforcement of restraints upon the actions of other people. Some rules of conduct, therefore, must be imposed - by law in the first place, and by opinion on many things which are not fit subjects for the operation of law." Mill

Shit is shit no matter how you dress it up, I find the argument today that every point of view has equal value idiotic. Imagine the slave and the slave owner, two talking heads in separate panels on Fox, slave, 'I know we have good hard work and the master treats us well but I prefer to be free,' slave owner, 'but you have a good life, better than before and and you have much freedom.' Or the victim and the criminal, this is often turned around, think rape.

I want to do a thread on pornography sometime but I don't think we can take Bundy's rationalization seriously. Whatever caused the evil he became, it is more than doubtful porn had much to do with it. For men the visual is an important aspect of growing up, porn may actually serve a healthy purpose for some?

So if Savage's hateful talk results in damage to a group of innocent people is that ok because we have 'freedom of speech?' On another level, some of the stuff he says is just plain intolerant and thus un-American.
 

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