Sarkozy and Obama's Netanyahu gaffe

[Jos]

The French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, described the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, as a "liar" in a private exchange with Barack Obama at last week's G20 summit in Cannes that was inadvertently broadcast to journalists.

"I cannot stand him. He's a liar," Sarkozy told Obama. The US president responded by saying: "You're fed up with him? I have to deal with him every day."
Sarkozy and Obama's Netanyahu gaffe broadcast via microphones | World news | The Guardian

 

[High_Gravity]

I am sure these guys talk bad about each other all the time.

 

[pgm]

I'm sure they do. Everyone gossips about their peers. Sarkozy's statement is stronger than Obama's since it is more explicit and it's first. Obama's is mostly innocuous, but is clearly not a rush to defend him.

 

[Ropey]

I'm sure they do. Everyone gossips about their peers. Sarkozy's statement is stronger than Obama's since it is more explicit and it's first. Obama's is mostly innocuous, but is clearly not a rush to defend him.

Obama is proving that he supports others who are against the Prime Minister of Israel.

While both pretend they are not.

On purpose of gaffe?

Hard to say...

 

[Sallow]

I'm sure they do. Everyone gossips about their peers. Sarkozy's statement is stronger than Obama's since it is more explicit and it's first. Obama's is mostly innocuous, but is clearly not a rush to defend him.

Obama is proving that he supports others who are against the Prime Minister of Israel.

While both pretend they are not.

On purpose of gaffe?

Hard to say...

You mean he supports the entire world?

It must be frustrating as heck dealing with Israel. They spy on thier allies, kill the citizens of allied nations, strike enemies on the sneak without telling anyone and generally are pretty nasty to the leaders of countries allied with them. That, and they don't feel they have to engage in any sort of diplomacy with thier neighbors.

Netanyahu is even wearing out his "welcome" among Israelis. That's, pretty hard to do.

 

[Ropey]

I'm sure they do. Everyone gossips about their peers. Sarkozy's statement is stronger than Obama's since it is more explicit and it's first. Obama's is mostly innocuous, but is clearly not a rush to defend him.

Obama is proving that he supports others who are against the Prime Minister of Israel.

While both pretend they are not.

On purpose of gaffe?

Hard to say...

You mean he supports the entire world?

It must be frustrating as heck dealing with Israel. They spy on thier allies, kill the citizens of allied nations, strike enemies on the sneak without telling anyone and generally are pretty nasty to the leaders of countries allied with them. That, and they don't feel they have to engage in any sort of diplomacy with thier neighbors.

Netanyahu is even wearing out his "welcome" among Israelis. That's, pretty hard to do.

More Sallow Logic.

It's an either or logical question I asked. Either they staged it or it was an accident Sallow.

Your response has nothing to do with that logical question of mine.

Truly you are lost with logic.

If--> Then--> Else has to be supported by facts.

So, you know how to push the quote button Sallow, but you have no idea how to use and support a logical response to a logical question with only two branches.

So, truly you are a moron of the nth degree...

 

[pgm]

Obama is proving that he supports others who are against the Prime Minister of Israel.

While both pretend they are not.

On purpose of gaffe?

Hard to say...

The administration's official response is that the U.S. was much more supportive of Israel than France on the Palestinian statehood proposal in the U.N.

 

[Sallow]

Obama is proving that he supports others who are against the Prime Minister of Israel.

While both pretend they are not.

On purpose of gaffe?

Hard to say...

You mean he supports the entire world?

It must be frustrating as heck dealing with Israel. They spy on thier allies, kill the citizens of allied nations, strike enemies on the sneak without telling anyone and generally are pretty nasty to the leaders of countries allied with them. That, and they don't feel they have to engage in any sort of diplomacy with thier neighbors.

Netanyahu is even wearing out his "welcome" among Israelis. That's, pretty hard to do.

More Sallow Logic.

It's an either or logical question I asked. Either they staged it or it was an accident Sallow.

Your response has nothing to do with that logical question of mine.

Truly you are lost with logic.

If--> Then--> Else has to be supported by facts.

So, you know how to push the quote button Sallow, but you have no idea how to use and support a logical response to a logical question with only two branches.

So, truly you are a moron of the nth degree...

Who else is "allied" with Israel?

 

[The Infidel]

The French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, described the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, as a "liar" in a private exchange with Barack Obama at last week's G20 summit in Cannes that was inadvertently broadcast to journalists.

"I cannot stand him. He's a liar," Sarkozy told Obama. The US president responded by saying: "You're fed up with him? I have to deal with him every day."
Sarkozy and Obama's Netanyahu gaffe broadcast via microphones | World news | The Guardian

Very telling if ya ask me.

 

[Ropey]

You mean he supports the entire world?

It must be frustrating as heck dealing with Israel. They spy on thier allies, kill the citizens of allied nations, strike enemies on the sneak without telling anyone and generally are pretty nasty to the leaders of countries allied with them. That, and they don't feel they have to engage in any sort of diplomacy with thier neighbors.

Netanyahu is even wearing out his "welcome" among Israelis. That's, pretty hard to do.

More Sallow Logic.

It's an either or logical question I asked. Either they staged it or it was an accident Sallow.

Your response has nothing to do with that logical question of mine.

Truly you are lost with logic.

If--> Then--> Else has to be supported by facts.

So, you know how to push the quote button Sallow, but you have no idea how to use and support a logical response to a logical question with only two branches.

So, truly you are a moron of the nth degree...

Who else is "allied" with Israel?

It's an either or logical question I asked. Either they staged it or it was an accident Sallow.

You quoted me and didn't respond at all to the quote. Then you did it again.

Special ed classes?

 

[Swagger]

I'm sure they do. Everyone gossips about their peers. Sarkozy's statement is stronger than Obama's since it is more explicit and it's first. Obama's is mostly innocuous, but is clearly not a rush to defend him.

Obama is proving that he supports others who are against the Prime Minister of Israel.

While both pretend they are not.

On purpose of gaffe?

Hard to say...

You mean he supports the entire world?

It must be frustrating as heck dealing with Israel. They spy on thier allies, kill the citizens of allied nations, strike enemies on the sneak without telling anyone and generally are pretty nasty to the leaders of countries allied with them. That, and they don't feel they have to engage in any sort of diplomacy with thier neighbors.

Netanyahu is even wearing out his "welcome" among Israelis. That's, pretty hard to do.

You can be sure that Ropey's itching to accuse you of anti-semitism on account of that post, Sallow. Though I agree that Israel's a cancer that's afflicted the American taxpayer, and should be treated accordingly.

 

[JStone]

I'm sure they do. Everyone gossips about their peers. Sarkozy's statement is stronger than Obama's since it is more explicit and it's first. Obama's is mostly innocuous, but is clearly not a rush to defend him.

Obama is proving that he supports others who are against the Prime Minister of Israel.

While both pretend they are not.

On purpose of gaffe?

Hard to say...

You mean he supports the entire world?

It must be frustrating as heck dealing with Israel.

It must be frustrating being a total loser like you. How sucky is it that the Jews protect you while you sit in your room all day wacking off?

You = OWNED.

Israel: A True Ally

Robert D. Blackwill, Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Planning in the George W. Bush administration, and Walter B. Slocombe, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy in the Clinton administration...

American leaders have traditionally explained the foundations of the U.S.-Israel relationship by citing shared democratic values...Although accurate and essential, this characterization is incomplete because it fails to capture a crucial aspect: the many ways in which Israel advances U.S. national interests.

Today, Israeli contributions to U.S. national interests cover a broad spectrum. Through joint training, exercises and exchanges on military doctrine, the United States has benefited in the areas of counter-terrorism, intelligence and experience in urban warfare. Increasingly, U.S. homeland security and military agencies are turning to Israeli technology to solve some of their most vexing technical and strategic problems.

Israeli-developed defense equipment, some of which benefited from generous U.S. aid, now used by the U.S. military include short-range unmanned aircraft systems that have seen service in Iraq and Afghanistan; targeting pods on hundreds of Air Force, Navy and Marine strike aircraft; a revolutionary helmet-mounted sight that is standard in nearly all frontline Air Force and Navy fighter aircraft; lifesaving armor installed in thousands of MRAP armored vehicles used in Iraq and Afghanistan; and a gun system for close-in defense of naval vessels against terrorist dinghies and small-boat swarms. Moreover, U.S. and Israeli companies are working together to produce Israel's Iron Dome — the world's first combat-proven counter-rocket system.

Counter-terrorism and intelligence cooperation is deep and extensive, with the United States and Israel working to advance their common interest in defeating the terrorism of Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Qaeda and its affiliate groups, and preventing nuclear proliferation in the region. There are joint Special Forces training and exercises and collaboration on shared targets. This intimate relationship reinforces overall U.S. intelligence efforts by providing Washington with access to Israel's unique set of capabilities for information collection and assessments on key countries and issues in the region. Such was the case, for example, when Israel passed to the United States conclusive photographic evidence in 2007 that Syria, with North Korean assistance, had made enormous strides toward "going hot" with a plutonium-producing reactor.

We do not deny that there are costs to the United States, in the Arab world and elsewhere, for its support of Israel, as there are costs to U.S. support of other beleaguered — and sometime imperfect — friends, including West Berlin in the Cold War, Kuwait in 1990-91 and Taiwan today. But the long-standing U.S. commitment to Israel has not prevented development of close ties with Arab nations, which understand — however much they disagree with U.S. support for Israel — that they benefit from a good relationship with the United States on other issues. Nor has it made the Arab oil-exporting states any less conscious of their own economic and strategic interest in a reasonably stable flow of oil to world markets, or their eagerness to buy first-class military equipment from the United States or to enjoy the benefits of U.S. protection against Iranian or other aggression.

Would Saudi Arabia's policies toward the United States, for example, be markedly different if Washington entered into a sustained crisis with Israel over the Palestine issue? Would Riyadh lower the price of oil? Would it stop hedging its regional bets concerning U.S. attempts to coerce Iran into freezing its nuclear weapons programs? Would it regard current U.S. policy toward Afghanistan more positively? Would it view American democracy promotion in the Middle East more favorably? Would it be more inclined to reform its internal governmental processes to be more in line with U.S. preferences? No.

In sum, we believe that Israel's substantial contributions to U.S. interests are an underappreciated aspect of this relationship and deserve equal billing to shared values and historical responsibility as rationales for American support of Israel.

Middle East, foreign relations: How Israel benefits the U.S. - latimes.com