Sarah Palin run for Prez

[NYcarbineer]

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

Bullshit. You are right though, when oil goes down it devastates Alaska's economy. Kind of like it devastates Iran's economy. Sarah Palin's 'executive experience' makes her a better candidate to be president of Iran.

Btw, reference the highlighted, Governor Palin sided with ALASKA DEMOCRATS against her own party, to pass the windfall profits tax on oil that was handed out to the state's residents.

You constantly lie about what Palin did.

For those attacking Governor Palin for raising taxes on oil companies in Alaska, the facts tell a much different story. After rampant corruption was stopped and criminal politicians, along with oil executives, fined and/or thrown in jail, Sarah Palin set out to reverse the damage done. Here is the Palin tax proposal before Alaska's legislature got a hold of it. This is what Sarah Palin is responsible for on the issue of oil industry taxes in Alaska:

The basic elements of the Palin tax proposal, called Alaska's Clear and Equitable Share, are:

• 25 percent tax on net profits, or the value of the oil minus operating expenses and pipeline and tanker charges. That compares with the 22.5 percent Petroleum Profits Tax passed in 2006. The tax rate rises when oil prices are high.

• Protection when oil prices are low. The big fields of Kuparuk and Prudhoe Bay would pay at least a 10 percent gross tax on the oil's value. This tax on the gross -- before operating expenses are deducted -- would be instead of a tax on net profits, not in addition to it.

• Changes in allowable tax credits and deductions. Producers no longer could write off the cost of replacing deteriorating pipelines.

• Higher salaries for oil tax auditors.

• More information for the state from oil producers and better sharing of information between state agencies.

What you see above is where the $1200 tax rebate came from that sent to the people of Alaska who were robbed by politicians convicted of taking bribes from oil company executives. When you read the actual proposal instead giving a knee-jerk reaction to a tax increase, it is clear this isn't a tax hike near as much as it is returning stolen money back to taxpayers. Not only was there bribery, but her predecessor was giving special breaks to oil companies as Palin stated in this report from FoxNews referencing both McCain and the Governor:

Palin supports offshore drilling like McCain, but they diverge on drilling in the off-limits Artic Wildlife National Refuge. She’s for it and he’s against it, although he’s said he is willing to re-examine the issue.

They both oppose a national windfall profits tax on oil companies, saying it would hinder domestic production. But she raised taxes on oil companies in Alaska last year, arguing that her predecessor, Frank Murkowski gave them too many breaks.

When asked by FOXNews.com whether McCain’s criticism of Obama’s similar proposal to tax oil companies was a contradiction to Palin’s actions last year, McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds batted the question away.

Governor Palin did what any conservative worth their own soul would have done. She gave tax dollars that were literally stolen from Alaskan taxpayers right back to them and appropriately reversed corrupt tax policy. Not only did she bring ethics back to the tax policy in regards to the oil industry in Alaska, she improved the policy itself in her proposal.

Cary Wesberry, Political Blog, Conservative Bloggers, Republican Blogspot, Political Blogs

A classic example of the irrational devotion that Palin inspires. And you win a neg rep for calling me a liar.

 

[geauxtohell]

If Palin runs in 2012 I believe she will hand Barry another four years. She needs to marinate more . . . perhaps a presidential run down the road, but not in 2012.

Marinate how and where? She surrendered her post that was giving her "executive experience".

That's what I don't get. Palin is no longer gaining any leadership experience and you guys think she is going to age like fine wine?

She might become more polished in her appearance and speeches, but she will have less experience (by virtue of being out of office for so long) and that was her supposed major selling point.

How do you guys reconcile this?

 

[Mr Natural]

If Palin runs in 2012 I believe she will hand Barry another four years. She needs to marinate more . . . perhaps a presidential run down the road, but not in 2012.

Marinate how and where? She surrendered her post that was giving her "executive experience".

That's what I don't get. Palin is no longer gaining any leadership experience and you guys think she is going to age like fine wine?

She might become more polished in her appearance and speeches, but she will have less experience (by virtue of being out of office for so long) and that was her supposed major selling point.

How do you guys reconcile this?

She's white, good-looking, and says the words they like to hear.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If Palin runs in 2012 I believe she will hand Barry another four years. She needs to marinate more . . . perhaps a presidential run down the road, but not in 2012.

Marinate how and where? She surrendered her post that was giving her "executive experience".

That's what I don't get. Palin is no longer gaining any leadership experience and you guys think she is going to age like fine wine?

She might become more polished in her appearance and speeches, but she will have less experience (by virtue of being out of office for so long) and that was her supposed major selling point.

How do you guys reconcile this?

They will say, well, it was okay for you guys when Obama was inexperienced but gave good speeches...

lol

 

[geauxtohell]

She's white, good-looking, and says the words they like to hear.

Sadly, I think that about sums it all up.

 

[Gadawg73]

I have been pondering this.

Sarah Palin is extremely knowledgeable.



YouTube - Palin SRLC - Part 1

YouTube - Sarah Palin Speech at the Southern GOP Conference

I don't think anyone who heard her speak at the SRLC can deny that. And she did it without a teleprompter.

We know that the radical left wingers shot all their ammo at her, attacking her children, attacking her as a mom, trying to portray her as stupid, yadda, yadda, yadda. They did this because they consider her a grave threat. The question we should ask ourselves is why do they consider her such a threat?

We also know that Obama is dumber than a rock.

He is the twit that has been embracing america's enemies, and alienating america's friends.

He is the twit that wants to raise all sorts of taxes in a bad economy.

He is the twit that wants to micromanage the private sector and thinks this won't lead lead to economic collapse.

So here is my question. Do you think that she is now immune fromthe viciousness of the liberal attacks in 3 years? Has she developed the antibodies? or do you think that they successfully destroyed her by being the evil vermin tha liberals are?

I do feel that she can do a great job. She did great for Alaska. She had 80% approval, took on corruption in her own party, cut spending even when there was a surplus in the Alaskan budget, lowered taxes, gave tax rebates to Alaskans., etc.

She did not lower taxes in Alaska. She imposed a windfall profits tax on oil and gave everyone in Alaska a handout. It's easy to buy an 80% approval rating with that kind of money to pass aroun.

Speaking of 80%, 80% of Alaska's state budget is paid for by oil revenues. A chimpanzee could handle Alaska's fiscal policy.

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

You are partially right Mike but are so wrong in this area:
EVERYTHING you have comes via truck. Trucking is vital to the economy. When oil goes up trucking suffers and it kills the economy and affects every goods and service you receive.
The price of oil affects all three of my businesses all in a negative way.
But you are right in this angle. If oil falls below somewhere in the $65 a barrell area they want to cut production and that kills the economy at the low price. Slowing of production of Saudi and middle eastern fields always raises the price dramatically like we saw when it was $4.50 a galolon for gas.

 

[rdean]

If Palin runs in 2012 I believe she will hand Barry another four years. She needs to marinate more . . . perhaps a presidential run down the road, but not in 2012.

Marinate how and where? She surrendered her post that was giving her "executive experience".

That's what I don't get. Palin is no longer gaining any leadership experience and you guys think she is going to age like fine wine?

She might become more polished in her appearance and speeches, but she will have less experience (by virtue of being out of office for so long) and that was her supposed major selling point.

How do you guys reconcile this?

She is "aging" like fine "WHINE".

 

[geauxtohell]

They will say, well, it was okay for you guys when Obama was inexperienced but gave good speeches...

lol

And we will have come full circle. The GOP needs to work on new lines anyways. In 2012, no one will have more executive experience than Obama. They need a new foil to the "executive experience" line.

 

[CMike]

She did not lower taxes in Alaska. She imposed a windfall profits tax on oil and gave everyone in Alaska a handout. It's easy to buy an 80% approval rating with that kind of money to pass aroun.

Speaking of 80%, 80% of Alaska's state budget is paid for by oil revenues. A chimpanzee could handle Alaska's fiscal policy.

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

You are partially right Mike but are so wrong in this area:
EVERYTHING you have comes via truck. Trucking is vital to the economy. When oil goes up trucking suffers and it kills the economy and affects every goods and service you receive.
The price of oil affects all three of my businesses all in a negative way.
But you are right in this angle. If oil falls below somewhere in the $65 a barrell area they want to cut production and that kills the economy at the low price. Slowing of production of Saudi and middle eastern fields always raises the price dramatically like we saw when it was $4.50 a galolon for gas.

I completely agree. I meant the budget for Alaska which relies so heavily on the oil industry.

I concur that the price of oil going up isn't good for business in general.

 

[CMike]

They will say, well, it was okay for you guys when Obama was inexperienced but gave good speeches...

lol

And we will have come full circle. The GOP needs to work on new lines anyways. In 2012, no one will have more executive experience than Obama. They need a new foil to the "executive experience" line.

I think a picture of Barak Obama would do it.

 

[Toro]

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

In Alaska, the people get a dividend check from the government for drilling "their" oil reserves. In other words, the Alaska government taxes the oil companies then distributes that money to the people.

Its very socialist.

 

[mascale]

Possibly someone should go back to NYcarbineer's post that White Female Palin is Number Three as the Southern Republican Convention presidential choice, whereas White Maie Gingrich is Number Two, and White Male Romeny is Number One!

Maybe there is a problem with the McCain-Palin assertion that the economy was "strong," after the Bush Administration, Mega-Giant Government Bail-outs of $1.65 tril. That counts starting in 2008 with Bear-Stearns?

Mostly, anyone would conclude maybe so, if probably not!

Light-Skinned black Obama, with no Negro dialect(?), by comparison: Only did $1.150 tril. in smaller government bail-outs, starting with the government preservantive stimulus package: If anyone does understand about molasses.?

Even Southerners know about finger-licking good, if not too much about flippin' the finger, at the Republicans, where blame for giant, mega-government belongs!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Palin Squaw maybe go to Screenwriter's Guild! Find New Snappy dialect!)

 

[geauxtohell]

They will say, well, it was okay for you guys when Obama was inexperienced but gave good speeches...

lol

And we will have come full circle. The GOP needs to work on new lines anyways. In 2012, no one will have more executive experience than Obama. They need a new foil to the "executive experience" line.

I think a picture of Barak Obama would do it.

Tell yourself that. Gingrich was correct. You guys need to come up with a workable platform or your gains in 2010 will be modest, at best.

 

[geauxtohell]

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

In Alaska, the people get a dividend check from the government for drilling "their" oil reserves. In other words, the Alaska government taxes the oil companies then distributes that money to the people.

Its very socialist.

Yeah, "nationalizing" private profits is about as socialistic of a concept as they come.

It's also the epitome of patronage.

Of course, when you deal with the Sarah love affair, logic falls behind the wayside.

Love is tricky like that.

 

[Toro]

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

Bullshit. You are right though, when oil goes down it devastates Alaska's economy. Kind of like it devastates Iran's economy. Sarah Palin's 'executive experience' makes her a better candidate to be president of Iran.

Btw, reference the highlighted, Governor Palin sided with ALASKA DEMOCRATS against her own party, to pass the windfall profits tax on oil that was handed out to the state's residents.

You constantly lie about what Palin did.

For those attacking Governor Palin for raising taxes on oil companies in Alaska, the facts tell a much different story. After rampant corruption was stopped and criminal politicians, along with oil executives, fined and/or thrown in jail, Sarah Palin set out to reverse the damage done. Here is the Palin tax proposal before Alaska's legislature got a hold of it. This is what Sarah Palin is responsible for on the issue of oil industry taxes in Alaska:

The basic elements of the Palin tax proposal, called Alaska's Clear and Equitable Share, are:

• 25 percent tax on net profits, or the value of the oil minus operating expenses and pipeline and tanker charges. That compares with the 22.5 percent Petroleum Profits Tax passed in 2006. The tax rate rises when oil prices are high.

• Protection when oil prices are low. The big fields of Kuparuk and Prudhoe Bay would pay at least a 10 percent gross tax on the oil's value. This tax on the gross -- before operating expenses are deducted -- would be instead of a tax on net profits, not in addition to it.

• Changes in allowable tax credits and deductions. Producers no longer could write off the cost of replacing deteriorating pipelines.

• Higher salaries for oil tax auditors.

• More information for the state from oil producers and better sharing of information between state agencies.

What you see above is where the $1200 tax rebate came from that sent to the people of Alaska who were robbed by politicians convicted of taking bribes from oil company executives. When you read the actual proposal instead giving a knee-jerk reaction to a tax increase, it is clear this isn't a tax hike near as much as it is returning stolen money back to taxpayers. Not only was there bribery, but her predecessor was giving special breaks to oil companies as Palin stated in this report from FoxNews referencing both McCain and the Governor:

Palin supports offshore drilling like McCain, but they diverge on drilling in the off-limits Artic Wildlife National Refuge. She’s for it and he’s against it, although he’s said he is willing to re-examine the issue.

They both oppose a national windfall profits tax on oil companies, saying it would hinder domestic production. But she raised taxes on oil companies in Alaska last year, arguing that her predecessor, Frank Murkowski gave them too many breaks.

When asked by FOXNews.com whether McCain’s criticism of Obama’s similar proposal to tax oil companies was a contradiction to Palin’s actions last year, McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds batted the question away.

Governor Palin did what any conservative worth their own soul would have done. She gave tax dollars that were literally stolen from Alaskan taxpayers right back to them and appropriately reversed corrupt tax policy. Not only did she bring ethics back to the tax policy in regards to the oil industry in Alaska, she improved the policy itself in her proposal.

Cary Wesberry, Political Blog, Conservative Bloggers, Republican Blogspot, Political Blogs

From what I have read, I think she did a decent job as governor, or at least in the 2+ years she was there, in particular, her taking on the corruption of politicians and the oil industry. She should be credited for improving tax policy.

Having said that, the article is disingenuous. It makes it sound as if the money being distributed to Alaskans was money that otherwise was being stolen. In fact, relative to the total amount, most of the money distributed to Alaskans was from a mechanistic pre-set formula, which triggered an increase because of rising oil prices, regardless of what she did.

 

[Toro]

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

In Alaska, the people get a dividend check from the government for drilling "their" oil reserves. In other words, the Alaska government taxes the oil companies then distributes that money to the people.

Its very socialist.

Yeah, "nationalizing" private profits is about as socialistic of a concept as they come.

It's also the epitome of patronage.

Of course, when you deal with the Sarah love affair, logic falls behind the wayside.

Love is tricky like that.

I would generally agree that sending a check to every Alaskan is a better way of distributing the money instead of automatically increasing government spending. However, the key to understanding the concept of the policy is that the oil is "theirs," i.e. all of Alaskans, not the oil companies'. The concept is quite collectivist. It is the same argument Leftists use elsewhere in the world for nationalizing oil reserves outright. Instead, in Alaska, the people just take "their" money.

 

[nraforlife]

Palin is the former mediocre Guv of a small State, a neocon, a self-admitted zionist and not particularly upstanding in her personal life. SURELY conservatives (the real ones, not the Israel Firsters) can find a better Standard Bearer for 2012.

 

[traveler52]

I have been pondering this.

Sarah Palin is extremely knowledgeable.



YouTube - Palin SRLC - Part 1

YouTube - Sarah Palin Speech at the Southern GOP Conference

I don't think anyone who heard her speak at the SRLC can deny that. And she did it without a teleprompter.

We know that the radical left wingers shot all their ammo at her, attacking her children, attacking her as a mom, trying to portray her as stupid, yadda, yadda, yadda. They did this because they consider her a grave threat. The question we should ask ourselves is why do they consider her such a threat?

We also know that Obama is dumber than a rock.

He is the twit that has been embracing america's enemies, and alienating america's friends.

He is the twit that wants to raise all sorts of taxes in a bad economy.

He is the twit that wants to micromanage the private sector and thinks this won't lead lead to economic collapse.

So here is my question. Do you think that she is now immune fromthe viciousness of the liberal attacks in 3 years? Has she developed the antibodies? or do you think that they successfully destroyed her by being the evil vermin tha liberals are?

I do feel that she can do a great job. She did great for Alaska. She had 80% approval, took on corruption in her own party, cut spending even when there was a surplus in the Alaskan budget, lowered taxes, gave tax rebates to Alaskans., etc.

Oh Yes....Please Please Yes. With Moose Blood and dying turkeys on top. The woman is a quitter, left Wasilla broke and made victims pay for their own rape kits.

She is about as smart as a stale soda cracker.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Guess what happens when oil goes down? It devastates the economy.

And letting people keep more of their own money is not a handout.

What would a democrat congress do with more money? They would spend it. Sarah Palin gave it back to the people it belonged to in the first place. That IS very refreshing.

You are partially right Mike but are so wrong in this area:
EVERYTHING you have comes via truck. Trucking is vital to the economy. When oil goes up trucking suffers and it kills the economy and affects every goods and service you receive.
The price of oil affects all three of my businesses all in a negative way.
But you are right in this angle. If oil falls below somewhere in the $65 a barrell area they want to cut production and that kills the economy at the low price. Slowing of production of Saudi and middle eastern fields always raises the price dramatically like we saw when it was $4.50 a galolon for gas.

I completely agree. I meant the budget for Alaska which relies so heavily on the oil industry.

I concur that the price of oil going up isn't good for business in general.

Alaska doesn't 'rely' on the oil revenue, it benefits from them. I doubt many states would not welcome the opportunity to 'rely' on natural resources to pay for 80% of the cost of their state's government. Alaska also gets a disproportionate amount of federal money.

All things considered, AK is probably the easiest state to be governor of.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Palin does not want supporters who call individuals they disagree with retarded.

Palin has a special need child. She is disgusted by individuals that are disrespectful and insensitive to individuals with special needs and their families.

CMike is one of those individuals.