Sarah Palin on Paul Revere

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I looked for a thread on this and did not find one. I can't imagine that no one commented on this - if they did, my apologies for a duplicate thread. OK, let's get started . . .

There seems to be no end to it. Earlier this month, Sarah was in Boston as part of her "I'm not running for President" national tour in her "Look at Me! I'm Running for PRESIDENT!" bus. But I digress . . . At the end of her exposure to Boston, she was asked by a reporter "what have you seen and what will you take away with you from your visit?"

We saw where Paul Revere hung out as a teenager, which was something new to learn. And you know, he who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms, by ringing those bells and making sure, as he is riding his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.
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I don't make this stuff up. This is a direct quote.

Let's give Sarah the benefit of the doubt. She defends this quote as being historically accurate. Right Wing apologists flock to shore up this claim. OK - let's say that by some far-fetched interpretation of history, what Sarah has to say here might have some semblance of historical accuracy somewhere, somehow. Even so - the garbled grouping of words that came out of her mouth in response to this simple question of "what did you see and what will you take with you from your visit here?" is not even worthy of a third grader trying to explain why they like their morning bowl of Cheerios.

And this is the person many on the Right are touting for the Oval Office? OK . . .

Note also, that in attempting to defend herself against her own remarks, Palin pointed out that her answer was given in response to a "gotcha" question, implying that "gotcha" questions are the only type of questions she ever gets from the media. "What did you see and what will you take with you from your visit?" can hardly be classified as a "gotcha" question.

How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments? : NPR
 
Tank said:
She couldn't be any worse then today's president
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Thank you for your opinion, but comparing President Obama's intelligence, educational accomplishments and intellectual level to Sarah Palin's is not, I would suggest, a place where you are well advised to go.
 
I think no one has commented on this much, because we've become accustomed to the ever present drivel she spews....Ok, drivel when it's not vitriol......
 
oldsalt said:
I think no one has commented on this much, because we've become accustomed to the ever present drivel she spews....Ok, drivel when it's not vitriol......
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You are probably right. I first saw in on "The Daily Show." You can imagine the fun Jon Steward had with it. I couldn't resist.

I suspect it will not get much activity now, because it is a bit of old news, but mainly because Palin is becoming harder and harder for the Right to justify on any rational basis.
 
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George Constanza:

OK - let's say that by some far-fetched interpretation of history, what Sarah has to say here might have some semblance of historical accuracy somewhere, somehow
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Not far fetched George.. How about the after-battle from Brit Gen Gage himself describing the events.
OK -- so let's get an OFFICIAL report...

""teachingamericanhistory.org/l...p?document=865???""" I'm a newbie and not allowed to post links.
I am to acquaint your Lordship that having received Intelligence of a large Quantity of Military Stores being collected at Concord, for the avowed Purpose of Supplying a Body of Troops to act in opposition to His Majesty�s Government, I got the Grenadiers and Light Infantry out of Town under the Command of Lieutenant Colonel Smith of the 10th Regiment and Major Pitcairne of the Marines with as much Secrecy as possible, on the 18th at Night and with Orders to destroy the said Military Stores, and Supported them the next Morning by Eight Companys of the 4th the same Number of the 23d, 47th and Marines, under the Command of Lord Percy. It appears from the Firing of Alarm Guns and Ringing of Bells that the March of Lieutenant Colonel Smith was discovered, and he was opposed by a Body of Men within Six Miles of Concord; Some few of whom first began to fire upon his advanced Companys which brought on a Fire from the Troops that dispersed the Body opposed to them; and they proceeded to Concord where they destroyed all the Military Stores they could find, on the Return of the Troops they were attacked from all Quarters where any Cover was to be found, from whence it was practicable to annoy them, and they were so fatigued with their March that it was with Difflculty they could keep out their Flanking Partys to remove the Enemy to a Distance, so that they were at length a good deal pressed.
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Pay no attention EVEN to the OFFICIAL press people who I see making statements like Revere was on "covert mission" and didn't want to "warn the enemy with which were at war". Therefore there was no bell-ringing or firing of shots. Now there's an IMBECILE. We were at war?

Once Adams was warned, the mission became to assemble the militia and ringing bells was part of that.. Note that Revere was detained by the British regulars right up until the encounter on the Green. And during that detainment and questioniing HE DID warn the British of the readiness of the colonists to defend their arms.. Historical FUNCTIONALLY CORRECT..

However: I'm not pointing any of this obvious crap out to you because I adore her. She BABBLES way too much to be a leader. And to put in the words of one leftist historian who had to begrudgingly acknowledge her accuracy (paraphrasing) "she dumped out a random pile of words, which accidentally fell on some historical facts." That about sums it up.. I don't want to see any more LYNCH MOBS after this clown...
 
George Costanza said:
I looked for a thread on this and did not find one. I can't imagine that no one commented on this - if they did, my apologies for a duplicate thread. OK, let's get started . . .

There seems to be no end to it. Earlier this month, Sarah was in Boston as part of her "I'm not running for President" national tour in her "Look at Me! I'm Running for PRESIDENT!" bus. But I digress . . . At the end of her exposure to Boston, she was asked by a reporter "what have you seen and what will you take away with you from your visit?"

We saw where Paul Revere hung out as a teenager, which was something new to learn. And you know, he who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms, by ringing those bells and making sure, as he is riding his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.
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I don't make this stuff up. This is a direct quote.

Let's give Sarah the benefit of the doubt. She defends this quote as being historically accurate. Right Wing apologists flock to shore up this claim. OK - let's say that by some far-fetched interpretation of history, what Sarah has to say here might have some semblance of historical accuracy somewhere, somehow. Even so - the garbled grouping of words that came out of her mouth in response to this simple question of "what did you see and what will you take with you from your visit here?" is not even worthy of a third grader trying to explain why they like their morning bowl of Cheerios.

And this is the person many on the Right are touting for the Oval Office? OK . . .

Note also, that in attempting to defend herself against her own remarks, Palin pointed out that her answer was given in response to a "gotcha" question, implying that "gotcha" questions are the only type of questions she ever gets from the media. "What did you see and what will you take with you from your visit?" can hardly be classified as a "gotcha" question.

How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments? : NPR
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Here's what I got from your link and an understanding of history:


Professor ROBERT ALLISON - Chairman, History Department, Suffolk University, Boston Mass:

Revere isn't trying to alert the British, but he is trying to warn them. And in April of 1775, no one was talking about independence. We're still part of the British Empire. We're trying to save it. So this is a warning to the British Empire what will happen if you provoke Americans.


BLOCK:Sarah Palin also was saying there that Paul Revere's message to the British in his warning was: You're not going to take American arms - you know, basically a Second Amendment argument, even though the Second Amendment didn't exist then.

Prof. ALLISON: Yeah. She was making a Second Amendment case. But in fact, the British were going out to Concord to seize colonists' arms, the weapons that the Massachusetts Provincial Congress was stockpiling there.


NPR - How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments?



Wiki - Paul Revere - Midnight Ride

Revere was captured and questioned by the British soldiers at gunpoint. He told them of the army's movement from Boston, and that British army troops would be in some danger if they approached Lexington, because of the large number of hostile militia gathered there. He and other captives taken by the patrol were still escorted east toward Lexington, until about a half mile from Lexington they heard a gunshot. The British major demanded Revere explain the gunfire, and Revere replied it was a signal to “alarm the country”. As the group drew closer to Lexington, the town bell began to clang rapidly, to which one of the captives proclaimed to the British soldiers “The bell's a'ringing! The town's alarmed, and you're all dead men!” The British soldiers gathered and decided not to press further towards Lexington, to instead free the prisoners and to head back to warn their commanders
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Funny you should cite the Wiki references to Paul Revere. Look how busy the wingers have been trying to get Palin's word garble to match what she said:


And that's just the first page.
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George Costanza said:
I looked for a thread on this and did not find one. I can't imagine that no one commented on this - if they did, my apologies for a duplicate thread. OK, let's get started . . .

There seems to be no end to it. Earlier this month, Sarah was in Boston as part of her "I'm not running for President" national tour in her "Look at Me! I'm Running for PRESIDENT!" bus. But I digress . . . At the end of her exposure to Boston, she was asked by a reporter "what have you seen and what will you take away with you from your visit?"

We saw where Paul Revere hung out as a teenager, which was something new to learn. And you know, he who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms, by ringing those bells and making sure, as he is riding his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.
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I don't make this stuff up. This is a direct quote.

Let's give Sarah the benefit of the doubt. She defends this quote as being historically accurate. Right Wing apologists flock to shore up this claim. OK - let's say that by some far-fetched interpretation of history, what Sarah has to say here might have some semblance of historical accuracy somewhere, somehow. Even so - the garbled grouping of words that came out of her mouth in response to this simple question of "what did you see and what will you take with you from your visit here?" is not even worthy of a third grader trying to explain why they like their morning bowl of Cheerios.

And this is the person many on the Right are touting for the Oval Office? OK . . .

Note also, that in attempting to defend herself against her own remarks, Palin pointed out that her answer was given in response to a "gotcha" question, implying that "gotcha" questions are the only type of questions she ever gets from the media. "What did you see and what will you take with you from your visit?" can hardly be classified as a "gotcha" question.

How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments? : NPR
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Was that or was that NOT shocking? OMG...and then the justifying what she had to say...:cuckoo:
 
syrenn said:
George Costanza said:
I looked for a thread on this and did not find one. I can't imagine that no one commented on this - if they did, my apologies for a duplicate thread. OK, let's get started . . .

There seems to be no end to it. Earlier this month, Sarah was in Boston as part of her "I'm not running for President" national tour in her "Look at Me! I'm Running for PRESIDENT!" bus. But I digress . . . At the end of her exposure to Boston, she was asked by a reporter "what have you seen and what will you take away with you from your visit?"

We saw where Paul Revere hung out as a teenager, which was something new to learn. And you know, he who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms, by ringing those bells and making sure, as he is riding his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.
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I don't make this stuff up. This is a direct quote.

Let's give Sarah the benefit of the doubt. She defends this quote as being historically accurate. Right Wing apologists flock to shore up this claim. OK - let's say that by some far-fetched interpretation of history, what Sarah has to say here might have some semblance of historical accuracy somewhere, somehow. Even so - the garbled grouping of words that came out of her mouth in response to this simple question of "what did you see and what will you take with you from your visit here?" is not even worthy of a third grader trying to explain why they like their morning bowl of Cheerios.

And this is the person many on the Right are touting for the Oval Office? OK . . .

Note also, that in attempting to defend herself against her own remarks, Palin pointed out that her answer was given in response to a "gotcha" question, implying that "gotcha" questions are the only type of questions she ever gets from the media. "What did you see and what will you take with you from your visit?" can hardly be classified as a "gotcha" question.

How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments? : NPR
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Was that or was that NOT shocking? OMG...and then the justifying what she had to say...:cuckoo:
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The professor, the Chair of the History Department of Suffolk University, in Boston, at the geographical center of the historical event supported Palin's version. At the time she was asked the "shout-out" question by a reporter whose motives can be regarded as suspect, Palin had just walked out of a venue where she'd heard a narrative of the events surrounding Paul Revere's ride.

You can depend on a couple of things: the professor gets his facts, not from Wikipedia, and not from the poem "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere" by Longfellow, since it was written almost exactly a hundred years after the event. The professor and any guided tour at the historical site would rely on "primary documents," meaning documents which would include Revere's own accounting, and other contemporaneous documents which give reliable factual histories of events.

Those who believe that Longfellow's poem accurately describe that night are as unlikely to get actual historical facts as are those who rely on Shakespeare's poem "Julius Caesar" to learn about the assassination of Caesar.

A question had been shouted to her by a reporter asking "what she had learned" and she gave an answer, somewhat poetic, melliflous, and idiosyncratically true to her geographical origins, but not the usual "pat" answer. Had she done that it would've been a non event but less accurate then her actual answer. She had just come from a tour in which what she said had just been presented with some, no doubt to her, different information than she or most have heard or normally take as historical fact.

She is an unusually free thinker and that quality came out in her answer. At that moment that she was asked and she answered, she was better informed than just about any one of her critics.
 
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American Horse said:
syrenn said:
George Costanza said:
I looked for a thread on this and did not find one. I can't imagine that no one commented on this - if they did, my apologies for a duplicate thread. OK, let's get started . . .

There seems to be no end to it. Earlier this month, Sarah was in Boston as part of her "I'm not running for President" national tour in her "Look at Me! I'm Running for PRESIDENT!" bus. But I digress . . . At the end of her exposure to Boston, she was asked by a reporter "what have you seen and what will you take away with you from your visit?"



I don't make this stuff up. This is a direct quote.

Let's give Sarah the benefit of the doubt. She defends this quote as being historically accurate. Right Wing apologists flock to shore up this claim. OK - let's say that by some far-fetched interpretation of history, what Sarah has to say here might have some semblance of historical accuracy somewhere, somehow. Even so - the garbled grouping of words that came out of her mouth in response to this simple question of "what did you see and what will you take with you from your visit here?" is not even worthy of a third grader trying to explain why they like their morning bowl of Cheerios.

And this is the person many on the Right are touting for the Oval Office? OK . . .

Note also, that in attempting to defend herself against her own remarks, Palin pointed out that her answer was given in response to a "gotcha" question, implying that "gotcha" questions are the only type of questions she ever gets from the media. "What did you see and what will you take with you from your visit?" can hardly be classified as a "gotcha" question.






Was that or was that NOT shocking? OMG...and then the justifying what she had to say...:cuckoo:
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The professor, the Chair of the History Department of Suffolk University, in Boston, at the geographical center of the historical event supported Palin's version. At the time she was asked the "shout-out" question by a reporter whose motives can be regarded as suspect, Palin had just walked out of a venue where she'd heard a narrative of the events surrounding Paul Revere's ride.

You can depend on a couple of things: the professor gets his facts, not from Wikipedia, and not from the poem "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere" by Longfellow, since it was written almost exactly a hundred years after the event. The professor and any guided tour at the historical site would rely on "primary documents," meaning documents which would include Revere's own accounting, and other contemporaneous documents which give reliable factual histories of events.

Those who believe that Longfellow's poem accurately describe that night are as unlikely to get actual historical facts as are those who rely on Shakespeare's poem "Julius Caesar" to learn about the assassination of Caesar.

A question had been shouted to her by a reporter asking "what she had learned" and she gave an answer, somewhat poetic, melliflous, and idiosyncratically true to her geographical origins, but not the usual "pat" answer. Had she done that it would've been a non event but less accurate then her actual answer. She had just come from a tour in which what she said had just been presented with some, no doubt to her, different information than she or most have heard or normally take as historical fact.

She is an unusually free thinker and that quality came out in her answer. At that moment that she was asked and she answered, she was better informed than just about any one of her critics.
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Is that how you describe bullshit? Are you a Sanitation Engineer?:confused::cuckoo:
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