Santorum blames the president for porn

Luddly Neddite

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Rick Santorum: Pornography Not A Priority For Obama Administration

Obama is the president of the United States. He holds a completely different office than what Santorum is running for. As president, Mr Obama has no control over porn. (Santorum does not know that and he's depending on others being as ignorant as he is.)

As National Sheriff of Sex, fruitier than a nutcake Santorum will be in charge of everything that goes on behind closed doors. Needless to say, the Catholic church will be immune to any and all laws, so young boys will be no more safe then than they are now.
 
He knows damn well he won't be elected POTUS. He just wants to develop a following to keep the $$$ rolling in after the election.
 
Also immportant to remember is that Santorum would rid the country of that danged pesky little First Amendment.

Yep, that's probably the first thing this idiot would do.

Problem is, rw's don't understand what the First Amendment really means. Some time ago, I read of a poll where 78% of Repubs polled said that there should be some controls on what American news media can print/broadcast/report etc.
 
Santorum is correct that the Department of Justice has the legal authority under obscenity laws to prosecute much of the pornography that is currently distributed. As far as I know Obama's DOJ takes largely the same position that Bush's did, that the DOJ does not have the resources to prosecute normal pornography (as opposed to child pornography). Pornography prosecution has also been made more difficult by relaxing community standards which make juries less likely to convict pornographers.
 
The story from a credible source:
(CBS News) ARLINGTON HEIGHTS, Ill. - Campaigning in this Chicago suburb on Friday, Rick Santorum accused President Obama of failing to enforce an anti-Internet pornography law he worked to pass in the Senate and said that as president, he would do more to protect children from inappropriate online content.

<SNIP>

"The Obama administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum administration," the statement on Santorum's campaign website says.


Santorum said the criticism of Obama was posted on the site about three weeks ago. "We'll enforce the law. I don't know what the hubbub about that is. We have a president who is not enforcing the law, and we will."​




I see no problem here. Enforce the law, if you don't like the law, work to change it.
 
He knows damn well he won't be elected POTUS. He just wants to develop a following to keep the $$$ rolling in after the election.

Obama knows he's going to be re-elected?
Why is he bothering campaigning, assbrain?

Where did any post in the thread say that "[President] Obama knows he's going to be re-elected"? The op AND the reply concerned one of the several R Clown Car Candidates.

Assbrain, indeed.
 
The story from a credible source:
(CBS News) ARLINGTON HEIGHTS, Ill. - Campaigning in this Chicago suburb on Friday, Rick Santorum accused President Obama of failing to enforce an anti-Internet pornography law he worked to pass in the Senate and said that as president, he would do more to protect children from inappropriate online content.

<SNIP>

"The Obama administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum administration," the statement on Santorum's campaign website says.


Santorum said the criticism of Obama was posted on the site about three weeks ago. "We'll enforce the law. I don't know what the hubbub about that is. We have a president who is not enforcing the law, and we will."​




I see no problem here. Enforce the law, if you don't like the law, work to change it.

EXACTLY what laws is PRESIDENT OBAMA not enforcing?
 
He knows damn well he won't be elected POTUS. He just wants to develop a following to keep the $$$ rolling in after the election.

Obama knows he's going to be re-elected?
Why is he bothering campaigning, assbrain?

Where did any post in the thread say that "[President] Obama knows he's going to be re-elected"? The op AND the reply concerned one of the several R Clown Car Candidates.

Assbrain, indeed.
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Those "R clowns" are gonna give Obama a tight race, and one may defeat him. Laugh as you wish but Obama is in trouble.
 
The story from a credible source:
(CBS News) ARLINGTON HEIGHTS, Ill. - Campaigning in this Chicago suburb on Friday, Rick Santorum accused President Obama of failing to enforce an anti-Internet pornography law he worked to pass in the Senate and said that as president, he would do more to protect children from inappropriate online content.

<SNIP>

"The Obama administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum administration," the statement on Santorum's campaign website says.


Santorum said the criticism of Obama was posted on the site about three weeks ago. "We'll enforce the law. I don't know what the hubbub about that is. We have a president who is not enforcing the law, and we will."​




I see no problem here. Enforce the law, if you don't like the law, work to change it.

EXACTLY what laws is PRESIDENT OBAMA not enforcing?


"Pornography loses its First Amendment protections, however, when it becomes obscene or it involves children. At this point, federal and state laws make it illegal to make, sell, own and even look at some of this material. Anyone violating these laws may be fined, sent to jail or both."

 
The story from a credible source:
(CBS News) ARLINGTON HEIGHTS, Ill. - Campaigning in this Chicago suburb on Friday, Rick Santorum accused President Obama of failing to enforce an anti-Internet pornography law he worked to pass in the Senate and said that as president, he would do more to protect children from inappropriate online content.

<SNIP>

"The Obama administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum administration," the statement on Santorum's campaign website says.


Santorum said the criticism of Obama was posted on the site about three weeks ago. "We'll enforce the law. I don't know what the hubbub about that is. We have a president who is not enforcing the law, and we will."​




I see no problem here. Enforce the law, if you don't like the law, work to change it.

EXACTLY what laws is PRESIDENT OBAMA not enforcing?


"Pornography loses its First Amendment protections, however, when it becomes obscene or it involves children. At this point, federal and state laws make it illegal to make, sell, own and even look at some of this material. Anyone violating these laws may be fined, sent to jail or both."

AGreed, as everyone does, on the children. But what's your definition of obscene? Whatever Santorum says it is? Whatever his interpretation of the Bible says it is? If it's not missionary with the light off, it's obscene and should be made illegal?
 
EXACTLY what laws is PRESIDENT OBAMA not enforcing?


"Pornography loses its First Amendment protections, however, when it becomes obscene or it involves children. At this point, federal and state laws make it illegal to make, sell, own and even look at some of this material. Anyone violating these laws may be fined, sent to jail or both."
AGreed, as everyone does, on the children. But what's your definition of obscene? Whatever Santorum says it is? Whatever his interpretation of the Bible says it is? If it's not missionary with the light off, it's obscene and should be made illegal?


Neither I, you, or Santorum need to guess the definition of obscenity.

The Supreme Court ruled on this in Miller v. California:
Obscenity

Generally, obscenity is sex-related material that goes beyond mere nudity. As the US Supreme Court said over 30 years ago, "nudity alone is not enough to make material legally obscene." The basic test used to determine if something is obscene asks:

  • Whether the average person, applying today's community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient or sexual interest
  • Whether the work shows or describes, in a clearly offensive way, sexual conduct, as defined by the laws of the state where the materials are located
  • Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value
In simple terms, it's not obscenity unless is shows "hard core" sexual conduct that's clearly and plainly offensive (also called "patently" offensive).

 
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"Pornography loses its First Amendment protections, however, when it becomes obscene or it involves children. At this point, federal and state laws make it illegal to make, sell, own and even look at some of this material. Anyone violating these laws may be fined, sent to jail or both."
AGreed, as everyone does, on the children. But what's your definition of obscene? Whatever Santorum says it is? Whatever his interpretation of the Bible says it is? If it's not missionary with the light off, it's obscene and should be made illegal?


Neither I, you, or Santorum need to guess the definition of obscenity.

The Supreme Court ruled on this in Miller v. California:
Obscenity

Generally, obscenity is sex-related material that goes beyond mere nudity. As the US Supreme Court said over 30 years ago, "nudity alone is not enough to make material legally obscene." The basic test used to determine if something is obscene asks:

  • Whether the average person, applying today's community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient or sexual interest
  • Whether the work shows or describes, in a clearly offensive way, sexual conduct, as defined by the laws of the state where the materials are located
  • Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value
In simple terms, it's not obscenity unless is shows "hard core" sexual conduct that's clearly and plainly offensive (also called "patently" offensive).


so if a couple wants to make a video together, they can't because SAntorum thinks it might offend people? What's your definition of offensive? and who decided who a reasonable person is?
clearly and plainly offensive to whom? A religious zealot like Santorum?
 

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