Sandy VS Katrina

[alan1]

Sandy - Cat1 Hurricane (Tropical storm strength at land fall)
Katrina - Cat5 Hurricane (Cat3 at landfall)

Sandy - Sustained winds 80mph at landfall
Katrina - Sustained winds 125mph at landfall

Sandy - 55 mph winds 170 miles from the center
Katrina - 85 mph winds 120 miles from the center.

oh... has fauxnews already told you how to make excuses for the fact that this president is going to do so much better a job of disaster relief than baby bush did?

nice.

i love watching the excuse factory as it starts up.

I was WONDERING what the OP was about....now I see it too.

No,
now you see what jillian is about.
I said nothing but a few facts and she jumped to conclusions, just as you are doing now.
Don't be a jillian.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Sandy is a pussy storm. The only reason it's a problem is because it's on the east coast where they aren't prepared for storms.And the flooding? Pffft...big whoop. Pump the shit out and go about your business.
90 MPH winds are a joke.
Katrina had the same problem. The dumb fucks live in a bowl !! What else would you expect except flooding?
If Sandy hit the gulf coast anywhere but NO it would be considered a minor nuisance and barely news worthy.
It hits NY or NO and "it's the end of the world as we know it" and I feel fine.

Salt water and electronics and metal are not a good combo. Guess you didn't know that one.

Like I said...the east coast sucks at hurricanes. It's a piss ant storm.
Florida and the Gulf Coast would laugh at this storm. Even NO wouldnt have a problem with a storm like this.

Oh yeah....Shut up lesbo.
I fish the Gulf Coast so I know what salt can do to electronics,boat motors and everything else associated with a saltwater environment.
So shut your piehole landlubber.

 

[mamooth]

Blackwater mercs patrolling New Orleans after Katrina.

Just a reminder of what life after disaster would be like in Mitt Romney's FEMA-free privatized utopia.

Oh, let's also take this opportunity to demonize the army of union employees working the cleanup now.

 

[Stephanie]

Blackwater mercs patrolling New Orleans after Katrina.

Just a reminder of what life after disaster would be like in Mitt Romney's FEMA-free privatized utopia.

Oh, let's also take this opportunity to demonize the army of union employees working the cleanup now.

OMG...so that is how life will be under Romney? crystal ball tell you that?
AND NOT all clean up crews are UNIONS for crying out loud

 

[del]

it's still amusing to watch the passive aggressive flail.

 

[Old Rocks]

This storm is not just one tropical storm, Sandy, but three storms that merged. That is the only way that you get a tropical storm with a snow blizzard on one side. Or temperatures in Maine 20 or 30 degrees higher than some in North Carolina and West Virginia. We had a huge storm surge in New York City that submerged the subways at the same time we had 20 foot waves off of Chicago.

Far fewer deaths, because the lessons learned from Katrina were applied at all levels of government.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Don't forget that in between these two storms was the Nashville flood 2 years ago which got as much as 12 feet deep if not more I believe is what was said.

God bless you and every storm area always!!!

Holly

 

[Ravi]

Katrina - Major damage in 2 states

Sandy - Major damage in 14 states

Sandy is affecting many more people. After looking at so many pictures, it just makes you want to cry. So many people have lost so much. It can all be rebuilt, but some things will never be the same for some. Water damage is usually devastating and that is what Sandy brought, tons of water. Unfortunately, many probably are uninsured or under-insured and will never recoup their losses.

I agree. The scope of the damage is beyond belief. Just the stress factor is going to be devastating for people that lost everything. It's like being raped by mother nature.

People in NO will understand this and not try to make political hay out of it for the most part.

 

[alan1]

Katrina - Major damage in 2 states

Sandy - Major damage in 14 states

Sandy is affecting many more people. After looking at so many pictures, it just makes you want to cry. So many people have lost so much. It can all be rebuilt, but some things will never be the same for some. Water damage is usually devastating and that is what Sandy brought, tons of water. Unfortunately, many probably are uninsured or under-insured and will never recoup their losses.

I agree. The scope of the damage is beyond belief. Just the stress factor is going to be devastating for people that lost everything. It's like being raped by mother nature.

People in NO will understand this and not try to make political hay out of it for the most part.

Please note, my OP had no political statements.
Some tried to claim it was.
Twas them that made political hay.

 

[Ravi]

Sandy is affecting many more people. After looking at so many pictures, it just makes you want to cry. So many people have lost so much. It can all be rebuilt, but some things will never be the same for some. Water damage is usually devastating and that is what Sandy brought, tons of water. Unfortunately, many probably are uninsured or under-insured and will never recoup their losses.

I agree. The scope of the damage is beyond belief. Just the stress factor is going to be devastating for people that lost everything. It's like being raped by mother nature.

People in NO will understand this and not try to make political hay out of it for the most part.

Please note, my OP had no political statements.
Some tried to claim it was.
Twas them that made political hay.

Did I say you did? Methinks you have shown your hand with this post.

 

[del]

it's amusing to watch the passive aggressive flailing

 

[rightwinger]

Each storm is what it is

We have to respond to each with our best capabilities

 

[alan1]

Did I say you did? Methinks you have shown your hand with this post.

You didn't.
I was just kind of surprised by the reactions and conclusions that some jumped to.

 

[rdean]

Sandy - Cat1 Hurricane (Tropical storm strength at land fall)
Katrina - Cat5 Hurricane (Cat3 at landfall)

Sandy - Sustained winds 80mph at landfall
Katrina - Sustained winds 125mph at landfall

Sandy - 55 mph winds 170 miles from the center
Katrina - 85 mph winds 120 miles from the center.

170 plus 170 equals 900?

Sandy, at 900 Miles Wide, Batters the East Coast - Businessweek

 

[alan1]

Sandy - Cat1 Hurricane (Tropical storm strength at land fall)
Katrina - Cat5 Hurricane (Cat3 at landfall)

Sandy - Sustained winds 80mph at landfall
Katrina - Sustained winds 125mph at landfall

Sandy - 55 mph winds 170 miles from the center
Katrina - 85 mph winds 120 miles from the center.

170 plus 170 equals 900?

Sandy, at 900 Miles Wide, Batters the East Coast - Businessweek

Yes, it was over 900 miles wide, but 55 mph sustained winds extended 170 miles from the center, not 450 miles from the center.
Try to keep up.

 

[waltky]

Disaster response learned from Katrina...

Disaster Management Advances Since Hurricane Katrina
October 30, 2012 — As federal, state and local governments respond to the Hurricane Sandy disaster on the U.S. east coast, they are drawing on lessons learned from the error-stricken effort that followed Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Government agencies and private relief operations in the affected areas are nonetheless facing an enormous challenge.

The worst natural disaster in U.S. history was Hurricane Katrina, which killed more than 1,800 people, drove more than 1 million others from their homes and left some 3 million more stranded without electrical power in the Gulf Coast area. Much of New Orleans, Louisiana was flooded when levees broke and parts of the city have yet to fully recover.

At Tulane University in New Orleans, Marc Roy helps run one of the nation's only Master's degree programs in disaster management. The former relief and recovery specialist with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, known as FEMA, says the disruption caused by Hurricane Sandy could be worse because of the much larger population in the affected area. "We are looking at 60 million people potentially affected, so in terms of geographical impact, Sandy is making a huge impact nationally and will be a trial for everybody concerned," said Roy.

Roy says extended closures of highways, rail transportation and subway systems in New York and other cities would keep businesses from opening and keep residents from getting to work. If millions of people are left without electrical power for a long time, he says, people could become desperate. "Rolling blackouts are problematical enough, but when you have a blackout for an extended period of time following a disaster of any kind, you have not only the economic but psychological results that impact people in their daily lives," he said.

But Roy says government agencies and especially FEMA have learned from mistakes made in the weeks following Katrina. He says communication and coordination among government entities on various levels are much better now than they were seven years ago. Roy says the government also learned lessons from private relief organizations like the American Red Cross and one private company in particular, the giant retail company Walmart, which got supplies of food and water into some stricken areas after Katrina more quickly than government agencies.

MORE

 

[nitroz]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=528_1351587184

 

[JoeB131]

Sandy - Cat1 Hurricane (Tropical storm strength at land fall)
Katrina - Cat5 Hurricane (Cat3 at landfall)

Sandy - Sustained winds 80mph at landfall
Katrina - Sustained winds 125mph at landfall

Sandy - 55 mph winds 170 miles from the center
Katrina - 85 mph winds 120 miles from the center.

Sandy is hitting a metropolitian area of some 12 million people.

Katrina hit a metropolitian area of less than 2 million.

But it is nice to compare how pro-active President Obama is being compared to the indifference of President Bush, eh?

(This is what you are really upset about, right?)

Again, I said nothing about presidential reaction, or about being upset.
I merely posted some facts.
Why did you jump to that conclusion?

Why are you making comparisons at all?

Katrina was essentially the end of the Bush Presidency. Nothing he said or did really mattered after that point. Should have turned in his resignation that day. Even his own aids admit that.

Obama, on the other hand, has been right on top of this. Even Chris Christy has been singing his praises. He's rendered the Norquist argument that government should be small enough to drown on a bathtub ridiculous.

 

[Stephanie]

Sandy is hitting a metropolitian area of some 12 million people.

Katrina hit a metropolitian area of less than 2 million.

But it is nice to compare how pro-active President Obama is being compared to the indifference of President Bush, eh?

(This is what you are really upset about, right?)

Again, I said nothing about presidential reaction, or about being upset.
I merely posted some facts.
Why did you jump to that conclusion?

Why are you making comparisons at all?

Katrina was essentially the end of the Bush Presidency. Nothing he said or did really mattered after that point. Should have turned in his resignation that day. Even his own aids admit that.

Obama, on the other hand, has been right on top of this. Even Chris Christy has been singing his praises. He's rendered the Norquist argument that government should be small enough to drown on a bathtub ridiculous.

oh brother..
TWO very different storms...Not anyone's fault the PEOPLE didn't listen to EVAUATE New Orleans..Yet you people will take away from the great rescue effort for the people that Nagin LEFT BEHIND..You really are a partisan hack

 

[JoeB131]

oh brother..
TWO very different storms...Not anyone's fault the PEOPLE didn't listen to EVAUATE New Orleans..Yet you people will take away from the great rescue effort for the people that Nagin LEFT BEHIND..You really are a partisan hack

I think Nagin, Bush and whoever the governor was at that time share equal amounts of the blame for the clusterfuck that was Katrina.

That said, Bush was president. He sat on his ranch until it was too late. He put a guy who ran Horse Shows in charge of FEMA.

Keeping in mind, I used to try to make excuses for this idiot back in 2005, and it wasn't easy, because there was no excuse for a lot of it.

Sandy is a worse storm because it's hitting a more densely populated area, and an area where they don't have things built to withstand these kinds of storms.