Sandy Hook Massacre....How the world sees us

[gallantwarrior]

Like I care if the French disapprove of the United States.
I know Libs feel that is the ultimate humiliation but I don't give a fuck how the
French or any other country feels right now.

France?

How about Germany and England? Our cowardice in attacking our raging gun problem has made us the laughing stock of the world

So has your boi king, so has our Congress, there are any number of things making us the laughingstock of the world. You have a point...other than the one on the top of your head?

 

[gallantwarrior]

France?

How about Germany and England? Our cowardice in attacking our raging gun problem has made us the laughing stock of the world

Have you looked into the mass killings in those countries? It happens there as well....

You asshat..!

Have you heard from Norway???

I hear they have a handle on gun control as well .....

There have been 13 mass shootings in the US Just in 2012 with 71 killed

U.S. mass shootings in 2012 - The Washington Post

The rest of the world looks at us in shock and says"What the hell is wrong with them?"

Why can't we?

An average of 5.46 bodies per "mass shooting". Your definition of "mass shooting" is comparable to the usual description of epidemic levels of people sickened by food-borne illness. IOW, if one or two people are affected, it's a freakin' horror.
How many people are killed by automobiles annually? So what's the answer to that? Many more killed by automobiles than guns. So the logical answer would be to ban automobiles, right?

 

[rightwinger]

You've tried to draw equivalencies where there are none.

Not giving a shit what some bloviating Euroweenie newspaper windbag says about Americans, is quite a bit different from Americans not wanting their prez -a guy who signed up for the job- to look like a detached, supercilious, narcissistic jackass in diplomatic situations, which are supposed to be his fucking job.

Not surprised, though, that little distinctions as such need to be pointed out to a room-temerature IQ mouth breather like you.

Let's look at your equivalencies

The image of the US because an unchecked gunman can execute 20 six year olds right before Christmas

And

Obama gave the queen an MP3 player

Damn....you guys are tough

So, you would have approved if he had shot those kids say...maybe closer to Easter, or maybe the Fourth of July? What makes it so much more horrible this time of year than any other?

Because you look at six year olds as innocents. You wonder about the excitement these children felt about the coming of Christmas. You wonder about the plans their parents made to make the day special for them

Then to see it all taken away by a gunman who executed them one by one. Christmas will never be the same for that community

 

[rightwinger]

Have you looked into the mass killings in those countries? It happens there as well....

You asshat..!

Have you heard from Norway???

I hear they have a handle on gun control as well .....

There have been 13 mass shootings in the US Just in 2012 with 71 killed

U.S. mass shootings in 2012 - The Washington Post

The rest of the world looks at us in shock and says"What the hell is wrong with them?"

Why can't we?

An average of 5.46 bodies per "mass shooting". Your definition of "mass shooting" is comparable to the usual description of epidemic levels of people sickened by food-borne illness. IOW, if one or two people are affected, it's a freakin' horror.
How many people are killed by automobiles annually? So what's the answer to that? Many more killed by automobiles than guns. So the logical answer would be to ban automobiles, right?

Only 5.46 huh?

You are a first class asshole

 

[Unkotare]

Does it really need to be said AGAIN that "the world" can kiss our ass?

 

[idb]

Have you looked into the mass killings in those countries? It happens there as well....

You asshat..!

Have you heard from Norway???

I hear they have a handle on gun control as well .....

There have been 13 mass shootings in the US Just in 2012 with 71 killed

U.S. mass shootings in 2012 - The Washington Post

The rest of the world looks at us in shock and says"What the hell is wrong with them?"

Why can't we?

An average of 5.46 bodies per "mass shooting". Your definition of "mass shooting" is comparable to the usual description of epidemic levels of people sickened by food-borne illness. IOW, if one or two people are affected, it's a freakin' horror.
How many people are killed by automobiles annually? So what's the answer to that? Many more killed by automobiles than guns. So the logical answer would be to ban automobiles, right?

...and so the normalisation of multiple random shootings continues in the minds of the public.
You will be putting a smile on the faces of the gun industry with this post.

 

[gallantwarrior]

There have been 13 mass shootings in the US Just in 2012 with 71 killed

U.S. mass shootings in 2012 - The Washington Post

The rest of the world looks at us in shock and says"What the hell is wrong with them?"

Why can't we?

An average of 5.46 bodies per "mass shooting". Your definition of "mass shooting" is comparable to the usual description of epidemic levels of people sickened by food-borne illness. IOW, if one or two people are affected, it's a freakin' horror.
How many people are killed by automobiles annually? So what's the answer to that? Many more killed by automobiles than guns. So the logical answer would be to ban automobiles, right?

...and so the normalisation of multiple random shootings continues in the minds of the public.
You will be putting a smile on the faces of the gun industry with this post.

I don't care whether they smile, or not. I care even less what the rest of this world thinks we should be doing. People in glass houses should not be tossing stones.

As far as this incident, and the others like it, it is a horrific statement about the state this country is in currently. It isn't the guns, it's the people. This guy was plain evil. What do we do about this kind of evil? That is what needs to be answered. But you all do not want to know the answers to the hard questions. You all want some knee-jerk, feel-good, we did something bullshit that will not stop evil.

 

[idb]

An average of 5.46 bodies per "mass shooting". Your definition of "mass shooting" is comparable to the usual description of epidemic levels of people sickened by food-borne illness. IOW, if one or two people are affected, it's a freakin' horror.
How many people are killed by automobiles annually? So what's the answer to that? Many more killed by automobiles than guns. So the logical answer would be to ban automobiles, right?

...and so the normalisation of multiple random shootings continues in the minds of the public.
You will be putting a smile on the faces of the gun industry with this post.

I don't care whether they smile, or not. I care even less what the rest of this world thinks we should be doing. People in glass houses should not be tossing stones.

As far as this incident, and the others like it, it is a horrific statement about the state this country is in currently. It isn't the guns, it's the people. This guy was plain evil. What do we do about this kind of evil? That is what needs to be answered. But you all do not want to know the answers to the hard questions. You all want some knee-jerk, feel-good, we did something bullshit that will not stop evil.

Try reading back over my posts - that's exactly what I've been advocating.
By all means address the immediate issue of security but the reasons behind these acts should be examined for the true long-term solution.
Do Americans want to be living behind walls and sending their kids into fortified buildings to protect them from other Americans?
It's more than guns - it's the society.
But the discussion isn't being held, largely because of the selfish attitude of certain special-interest groups.

 

[bobcollum]

Wowza.

The level of Conservative butt-hurt in this thread is off the charts.

Y'all just cannot stand for a millisecond that someone somewhere is saying something less than positive about the US. They don't understand why we do it the way we do, then they hear about another school shooting, and since they happen here more than anywhere, they wonder why.

Some of you need to get a grip.

 

[Unkotare]

Wowz

Y'all just cannot stand for a millisecond that someone somewhere is saying something less than positive about the US.

No, Americans just don't give a shit what "someone somewhere" is saying.

 

[bobcollum]

Wowz

Y'all just cannot stand for a millisecond that someone somewhere is saying something less than positive about the US.

No, Americans just don't give a shit what "someone somewhere" is saying.

In this thread it's apparently to the point of finding it offensive, at least to some.

Sometimes you can even learn something from hearing criticism.

 

[Dr Grump]

Wowz

Y'all just cannot stand for a millisecond that someone somewhere is saying something less than positive about the US.

No, Americans just don't give a shit what "someone somewhere" is saying.

Yeah they do. You can say over and over again that they don't, but we know that is untrue. Maybe a certain section of the US doesn't care what others do, but most do. It's human nature. It's also human nature to deny you give a shit, when in fact, you do.

 

[Unkotare]

Wowz

Y'all just cannot stand for a millisecond that someone somewhere is saying something less than positive about the US.

No, Americans just don't give a shit what "someone somewhere" is saying.

In this thread it's apparently to the point of finding it offensive, at least to some.

Sometimes you can even learn something from hearing criticism.

Sometimes you can grow up and stop worrying about what the other kiddies on the playground think about you.

 

[Unkotare]

Wowz

Y'all just cannot stand for a millisecond that someone somewhere is saying something less than positive about the US.

No, Americans just don't give a shit what "someone somewhere" is saying.

Yeah they do. You can say over and over again that they don't, but we know that is untrue. Maybe a certain section of the US doesn't care what others do, but most do. It's human nature. It's also human nature to deny you give a shit, when in fact, you do.

Bullshit. You don't understand Americans.

 

[GWV5903]

The Connecticut school massacre: How the world sees us - The Week

Canada's The Globe and Mail:

There is something inexorable about the phenomenon of mass shootings in the United States. We have been forced to write about it with tragic regularity for years. We have exhausted adjectives to describe our horror and revulsion. We have stated and restated the problem…
The time for platitudes is past, Mr. President. It’s time the U.S. cured its gun sickness.

What's your point? Could it be that this brand of criticism is tasteless? No...

No, your to worried about what they may think, but how many terrorist bombings have happened in the wonderful UK that we started telling them how they are to open to Islamic or IRA cowards??

Can you embarrass yourself somewhere else, please stop telling people your an American...

Accept it, your a fucking joke...

 

[rightwinger]

The Connecticut school massacre: How the world sees us - The Week

Canada's The Globe and Mail:

There is something inexorable about the phenomenon of mass shootings in the United States. We have been forced to write about it with tragic regularity for years. We have exhausted adjectives to describe our horror and revulsion. We have stated and restated the problem…
The time for platitudes is past, Mr. President. It’s time the U.S. cured its gun sickness.

What's your point? Could it be that this brand of criticism is tasteless? No...

No, your to worried about what they may think, but how many terrorist bombings have happened in the wonderful UK that we started telling them how they are to open to Islamic or IRA cowards??

Can you embarrass yourself somewhere else, please stop telling people your an American...

Accept it, your a fucking joke...

The point is simply this...

We are the United States. We are the predominant power in the world both economically and militarily without question. We have also held our society up to the rest of the world to follow with values like freedom, liberty and justice that we have tried to spread throughout the world.

What is it about criticism that sends the conservatives into a frenzy of "They are worse" "Who gives a fuck about what the rest of the world says?". Criticism is healthy. It is beneficial to see yourself as others see you.

We are not being criticized by countries that hate us. We are being criticized by countries that love and respect the US (Canada, England, Germany), countries that owe us a lot for what we have done for them. It does not mean they are ungrateful or disrespectful.

They are looking at our society from afar and saying....WTF is going wrong with the US?

Conservatives refuse to admit it.....Something is seriously wrong with our culture

Attacking those who point it out will not help

 

[Unkotare]

What is it about criticism that sends the conservatives into a frenzy of "They are worse" "Who gives a fuck about what the rest of the world says?".

"Who gives a fuck?" hardly seems like "a frenzy." If anything, you seem to be all in a bundle to insist we give a fuck. Sorry, we don't.

 

[rightwinger]

What is it about criticism that sends the conservatives into a frenzy of "They are worse" "Who gives a fuck about what the rest of the world says?".

"Who gives a fuck?" hardly seems like "a frenzy." If anything, you seem to be all in a bundle to insist we give a fuck. Sorry, we don't.

Why wouldn't you?

 

[Unkotare]

What is it about criticism that sends the conservatives into a frenzy of "They are worse" "Who gives a fuck about what the rest of the world says?".

"Who gives a fuck?" hardly seems like "a frenzy." If anything, you seem to be all in a bundle to insist we give a fuck. Sorry, we don't.

Why wouldn't you?

Why would we? Most people outgrow the whole "gosh, what do the other kids think of me?" phase somewhere in adolescence. It's juvenile, impractical, and pointless. If you've got some personal issues with arrested emotional development, that's your problem.

 

[rightwinger]

"Who gives a fuck?" hardly seems like "a frenzy." If anything, you seem to be all in a bundle to insist we give a fuck. Sorry, we don't.

Why wouldn't you?

Why would we? Most people outgrow the whole "gosh, what do the other kids think of me?" phase somewhere in adolescence. It's juvenile, impractical, and pointless. If you've got some personal issues with arrested emotional development, that's your problem.

Adults deal with criticism. It is how we mature

If your best friend said you had a drinking problem ....would you consider what he was saying? or scream...Who gives a fuck what you say?