Sanctuary Cities = No Problem, Enforcing Federal Immigation Law = Problem

[bucs90]

To take issue with the thread title, Arizona is not attempting to enforce federal immigration laws. If they were there would've been no need to pass a new law of their own. They're trying to seize control of immigration policy as it affect Arizona and supplant the enforcement policy priorities laid out in federal law with their own wishes. That's why there's a federal lawsuit. That's exactly the argument the feds are making in court, and to be quite frank, I see no way you can deny the truth of what the feds are saying in their suit.

Did you know the state of Rhode Island has nearly the exact same law in place, has been enforcing it for YEARS, and the fed has not said a word about it? Explain.

The Dept. of Homeland Security has formally certified that Rhode Island is in compliance with federal law. The procedure is called a Memorandum of Agreement. Rhode Island actively sought to obtain an MOA. Arizona has resisted doing so to this point. Lord know why, but they have.

It's an easy answer. DHS would deny one from Arizona. They denied Georgia and Oklahoma, both who had large illegal immigrant populations. That led to GA and OK passing two of the harshest illegal immigration crackdown bills in the country a few years back.

Rhode Island has very few illegals, which is why the feds approved it. Because RI enforcing it wouldn't overwhelm ICE and wouldn't cause political heat. It's a very simple answer of logistics and politics. DHS, aka the feds, wouldn't approve it.

 

[bucs90]

To take issue with the thread title, Arizona is not attempting to enforce federal immigration laws. If they were there would've been no need to pass a new law of their own. They're trying to seize control of immigration policy as it affect Arizona and supplant the enforcement policy priorities laid out in federal law with their own wishes. That's why there's a federal lawsuit. That's exactly the argument the feds are making in court, and to be quite frank, I see no way you can deny the truth of what the feds are saying in their suit.

Did you know the state of Rhode Island has nearly the exact same law in place, has been enforcing it for YEARS, and the fed has not said a word about it? Explain.

The Dept. of Homeland Security has formally certified that Rhode Island is in compliance with federal law. The procedure is called a Memorandum of Agreement. Rhode Island actively sought to obtain an MOA. Arizona has resisted doing so to this point. Lord know why, but they have.

In the name of good debate, I began to research the Memorandum of Agreement you speak of, which I knew OK and GA were denied a while back. It in fact is to certify a sheriffs office as a holding facility that local cops can drop off illegal immigrants for ICE to pick up at a later time. Georgia was denied because Charleston, SC got one.

But to your question: CNSNews.com - Sheriff Arpaio's Office Is Only Law Enforcement Agency in U.S. Denied Authority to Enforce Immigration Laws, Says DHS

Arizona's premier and largest county, Maricopa County, was denied. Home of the nations largest illegal immigration problem, and Sheriff Joe Arpio. They were the only county denied. They tried. Feds said "F**k off". So, Arizona passed their law.

 

[Flopper]

WOW.... Only in America...

Justice: Sanctuary cities are no Arizona - Washington Times

Some cities, called sanctuary cities refuse to expend local police manpower to investigate and enforce federal immigration laws. In other words, they believe enforcing immigration law is not the job of local law enforcement. I think this decision is more pragmatic than idealogical. Many right wing blogs and columnist assert that these areas support illegal immigration which is not the case. Sanctuary cities are nothing new. They started in 1979 and have grown steadily over the years. The following is a list sanctuary cities. There are many other cities that take this approach. They just don't publicize it.

Washington, D.C.; New York City; Los Angeles; Chicago; San Francisco; Santa Ana; San Diego; Salt Lake City; Dallas; Houston; Austin; Detroit; Jersey City; Minneapolis; Miami; Denver; Baltimore; Seattle; Portland; New Haven; and Portland, Maine

Sanctuary city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[gautama]

Most of them are.

And this is where both you and that person to which you respond FAIL.

We are a nation of LAW not of MEN.

Get it?

Riiight...that's why we torture people.

The WORST "torture" this Obammarrhoidal Liberrhoid Ravi is undoubtedly referring to is "waterboarding".

And, this SUPPOSED "torture" is what MOST, if not EVERY Navy Seal or Special Ops members go thru as part of their anti-terrorist training. NONE HAVE SUFFERED ANY MEDICALLY DELETERIOUS AFTER-EFFECTS.

This is a perfect example of Obamarrhoidal Liberrhoid BULLSHIT.

And Ravi, the perfect example of an Obamarrhoidal Liberrhoid BULLSHITTER.

This type of "torture" now outlawed by the AIDER and ABBETOR LIBERRHOID SWINE and their DUPES have eliminated the MOST EFFECTIVE weapon that provided information leading to the reduction and in some cases elimination of Al Queda garbage who ROUTINELY are known to take their hostages and, first SLOWLY cut off the fingers on one hand, then the other. Then, SLOWLY, the toes, on one leg, then the other. Then, SLOWLY, each hand....first the left....then the right. From thence to the legs. And, let's not forget the fun with the genitalia.

Finally the FACE: first, SLOWLY, the ears....the nose....the eyes.

THEN THE FINAL HEAD CHOP ........

The result..... A BLOODY HUMAN THIRD BASE........is sometimes left on the Baseball Fields of our troops (or prominent location) .......no doubt accompanied with the appropriate giggles.

THAT IS "TORTURE" !!!!!!!! YOU OBAMARRHOIDAL LIBERRHOID ARSEHOLES !!!!!!

THAT IS THE "TORTURE" (among other travesties)......YOU FUCKING OBAMARRHOIDAL LIBERRHOID ARSEHOLES THAT "Waterboarding" WAS SUCCESSFULLY TRYING TO PREVENT !!!!!

 

[ABikerSailor]

And this is where both you and that person to which you respond FAIL.

We are a nation of LAW not of MEN.

Get it?

Riiight...that's why we torture people.

The WORST "torture" this Obammarrhoidal Liberrhoid Ravi is undoubtedly referring to is "waterboarding".

And, this SUPPOSED "torture" is what MOST, if not EVERY Navy Seal or Special Ops members go thru as part of their anti-terrorist training. NONE HAVE SUFFERED ANY MEDICALLY DELETERIOUS AFTER-EFFECTS.

This is a perfect example of Obamarrhoidal Liberrhoid BULLSHIT.

And Ravi, the perfect example of an Obamarrhoidal Liberrhoid BULLSHITTER.

This type of "torture" now outlawed by the AIDER and ABBETOR LIBERRHOID SWINE and their DUPES have eliminated the MOST EFFECTIVE weapon that provided information leading to the reduction and in some cases elimination of Al Queda garbage who ROUTINELY are known to take their hostages and, first SLOWLY cut off the fingers on one hand, then the other. Then, SLOWLY, the toes, on one leg, then the other. Then, SLOWLY, each hand....first the left....then the right. From thence to the legs. And, let's not forget the fun with the genitalia.

Finally the FACE: first, SLOWLY, the ears....the nose....the eyes.

THEN THE FINAL HEAD CHOP ........

The result..... A BLOODY HUMAN THIRD BASE........is sometimes left on the Baseball Fields of our troops (or prominent location) .......no doubt accompanied with the appropriate giggles.

THAT IS "TORTURE" !!!!!!!! YOU OBAMARRHOIDAL LIBERRHOID ARSEHOLES !!!!!!

THAT IS THE "TORTURE" (among other travesties)......YOU FUCKING OBAMARRHOIDAL LIBERRHOID ARSEHOLES THAT "Waterboarding" WAS SUCCESSFULLY TRYING TO PREVENT !!!!!

Quick question dude.......exactly how is it that some pussified civilian who has never served a day in their life know about what SEALs do for training?

I'll give you a hint........you don't except for what you've heard on the news.

BTW........do you know why waterboarding was used? It's the easiest way to get a false confession.

Pol Pot used it extensively against his own people to enforce his dictatorship, which is why he got so many false confessions.

Try again retard.