"Saint" Reagan's "Solidarity" With Free Unions

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    From Ronald Reagan's October 19, 1982 presidential address:

    "Yesterday the Polish Government, a military dictatorship, took another far-reaching step in their persecution of their own people. They declared Solidarity, the organization of the working men and women of Poland, their free union, illegal...

    "Ever since martial law was brutally imposed last December, Polish authorities have been assuring the world that they're interested in a genuine reconciliation with the Polish people. But the Polish regime's action yesterday reveals the hollowness of its promises.

    "By outlawing Solidarity, a free trade organization to which an overwhelming majority of Polish workers and farmers belong, they have made it clear that they never had any intention of restoring one of the most elemental human rights - the right to belong to a free trade union... (my emphasis)

    Scott Walker is no Ronald Reagan; however, their party has far more in common with the Polish military dictatorship than with "elemental human rights."
     
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    Oh yeah...our freedom loving masters love everybody's freedom who doesn't work for them, no doubt.

    Ronnie loves Solidarity...in Poland.

    He just hated the unions in this nation.

    Gee (E?)..I wonder why?

    It couldn't be because long before he was POTUS he was one of corporate Americans most successful shills, could it?
     
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    30 years ago mothers also smoked all the way through pregnancy, we weren't required to wear seatbelts, spanking your kids was encouraged, and Hosni Mubarek was our well-respected, close friend.

    Oh.....and Poland was under martial law......speak out against the government, and you simply disappeared. I guess Reagan was evil/stupid to take a stand against that, huh?
     
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    Possibly for the same reason the Screen Actors' Guild forced him to resign early from his presidency of that organization?

    The last contract between actors and studios negotiated on Reagan's watch was widely viewed as a complete sell out by Reagan of "his" side's interests.

    The Gipper learned his Hollywood lessons well when it came to supporting rich studio bosses over working class actors.

    GE finished his education.
     
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    He was at least hypocritical:

    "In January 1981, the newly inaugurated Reagan inherited Jimmy Carter's policy of supporting a Salvadoran government controlled by a military that, along with the security forces and affiliated death squads, killed about 10,000 civilians in 1980.

    "In the first 27 months of the Reagan administration, perhaps another 20,000 civilians were killed.

    "El Salvador's labor movement was decimated, the opposition press exterminated, opposition politicians murdered or driven into exile, the church martyred.

    "In April 1983, seeking to shore up shaky public and congressional support for continued aid to El Salvador, Reagan went on national television before a joint session of Congress and -- with a straight face -- praised the Salvadoran government for 'making every effort to guarantee democracy, free labor unions, freedom of religion, and a free press.'

    "The Great Communicator/Prevaricator achieved his objective; aid -- and blood -- continued to flow."

    Reagan supported free labor unions when the evil Communists controlled the monopoly of violence and he supported the mass killing of union members when "good guy" capitalists ruled in hell-holes like El Salvador.

    Reagan's Third-World...
     
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    You're new to the whole theory of "politics," aren't you?

    The world of 2011 is NOTHING AT ALL like the world of 1982.

    They didn't even know about the brown dwarf back then......so much has changed.
     
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    Our view on collective barganing hasn't>

    Americans favor union bargaining rights by 2-1 margin: poll | The Raw Story

    WASHINGTON – Americans decisively support laws ensuring the collective bargaining rights of public employee unions by a nearly two-to-one margin, according to a new USA Today/Gallup poll.

    Sixty-one percent said they oppose legislation stripping those rights in their states, as compared to only 33 percent who said they favor such laws, a striking discrepancy that shows public opinion firmly on one side of a growing national fight
     
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    Ahh yes....

    The Science of Polling.

    I didn't know there was a poll on this?
    :eusa_whistle:
     
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    One thing that hasn't changed

    ALL governments exist to socialize cost and privatize profit.

    One thing that has changed

    In 1982 the richest 1% of Americans got around 9% of total US income. Today they receive over 20%.

    What theory of "politics" explains the connection?
     

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