Ryan's budget. WTF?

The point you're missing is that I'm supportive of tax increases regardless of its effect on me. None of us paid for the wars and it's time we finally did.

You can pay as much money to the government as you want at any time.

My taxes don't need to be raise just because you feel guilty.

BTW I paid over 60 grand in taxes and that's just federal tax.
 
Fact is Ryan doesn't ask the wealthy to contribute. He achieves his savings on the backs of the poor & the middle class. How patriotic of him.

What part of the poor don't pay taxes don't your get?
I think it should stay that way for our poor.
If the tax code wasn't so complicated the middle class could have their right offs too. Middle class does not have an army of tax consultants to help them with right offs like the rich do. Many just pay the full amount or most of the full amount, so they are getting soaked.


Which is precisely why the present system should be abolished. The Fair or Flat tax should be considered. Tax commerce. NOT income.
 
Please point out who is flaming? Looks like a debate to me. If you want a flame let me know, okay?

I said "flocked" to my thread.....

BTW- here is the Ryan budget "unplugged":
The Man Behind Paul Ryan's Budget Plan Got the Tax Cuts Wrong, Too - Tina Dupuy - Politics - The Atlantic
So you're depending on the opinion of a columnist and automatically dismissing the plan because of who helped with the data.
Have you actually read the plan yourself?
Can you point to a paragraph that supports your claim that the "uber-wealthy" pays "jack squat"?



He only believes what his Progressive Overlords tell him to believe.
 
Set tax rates where they were before the Bush tax cuts. Would it affect me? I don't know.

The point is that, as it has been stated many times, we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. Raising taxes will only give the politicians more money to spend.

The other issue is that all Obama and the Dems can do is demagog Ryan's plan without any real solution of their own. Obama's budget ver 2.0 was nothing more than a campaign speech he was forced to give as his first budget was a joke.
On the other side, the Repubs could only pass cuts that equaled less than 1% of the deficit.

Until both parties decide to lose the partisan bickering and their desire to stay or get in power, no real solutions will be presented. I give Ryan credit for attempting to take a big swing at this 14+ trillion deficit. I do not think it comes without problems but I would consider it a good first draft with much tweaking to do.
 
Set tax rates where they were before the Bush tax cuts. Would it affect me? I don't know.
How about cut spending to the levels when Bush was POTUS? Spending is the problem, obamaturds problem. Obamaturd just wants to spread the wealth on the backs of people who actually earned the money. Socialist.
 
Set tax rates where they were before the Bush tax cuts. Would it affect me? I don't know.

You do realize that taxing the rich isn't going to make a dent into the 14 trillion dollar deficit, right?

oh, well, since it won't 'make a dent' why don't we just stop taxing them altogether. i mean they're rich, they got it hard enough off as it is.

everyone is going to have to make some sacrifices.
 
The point you're missing is that I'm supportive of tax increases regardless of its effect on me. None of us paid for the wars and it's time we finally did.
How about paying for obamaturds rampant spending? He has spent more than Bush in alot shorter time. Get over Bush to try and justify the current socialist in chief, only idiots do that.
 
Really? Discarding the earnings cap on Social Security won't help the fund's outlook? Raising taxes on individuals making more than $125k/year won't help the general fund at all? Hell, let's just quit paying taxes altogether since it doesn't help anyway.

Yes....reeeeeally, raising taxes will not make a dent in the 14 trillion dollar deficit. Do the math. You talk about tax increases and don't say shit about spending cuts. Quit being so naive. :eusa_eh:
Kity is a socialist, what do you expect from idiots.
 
I agree! Years and years of unfunded wars really did us in!
There you go again idiot, obamaturd has done us in, stop blaming Bush.

Why are you picking on a female named kitty. She wanted Bu$h II's wars to be paid-for. I also wanted him to put them on his budget requests which he didn't. You realize that the cost of those wars is still going on don't you? Didn't think so.
 
I agree! Years and years of unfunded wars really did us in!
There you go again idiot, obamaturd has done us in, stop blaming Bush.

Why are you picking on a female named kitty. She wanted Bu$h II's wars to be paid-for. I also wanted him to put them on his budget requests which he didn't. You realize that the cost of those wars is still going on don't you? Didn't think so.
Yeah I do. It is just I don't like socialists ruining this great country. Obamaturd is much worse than Bush. Everybody wants to blame Bush, go cry a river. Bush did what he had to after we were attacked. Even the dimwits in congress agreed with him at first until they got scared and started worrying about their political careers. Oh by the way, 9-11 is a direct result of that baffoon clinton cowardice.
 

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