Ryan onFox we need to cut healthcare subsidies and social entitlements

[Manonthestreet]

As an aside..here is why we never realized any savings from the jihad against smoking

The idea that spending more on preventive care will reduce overall health care spending is widely believed and often promoted as a reason to support reform. It’s thought that too many people with chronic illnesses wait until they are truly ill before seeking care, often in emergency rooms, where it costs more. It should follow then that treating diseases earlier, or screening for them before they become more serious, would wind up saving money in the long run.

Unfortunately, almost none of this is true. Preventive Care Saves Money? Sorry, It’s Too Good to Be True

 

[Penelope]

As an aside..here is why we never realized any savings from the jihad against smoking

The idea that spending more on preventive care will reduce overall health care spending is widely believed and often promoted as a reason to support reform. It’s thought that too many people with chronic illnesses wait until they are truly ill before seeking care, often in emergency rooms, where it costs more. It should follow then that treating diseases earlier, or screening for them before they become more serious, would wind up saving money in the long run.

Unfortunately, almost none of this is true. Preventive Care Saves Money? Sorry, It’s Too Good to Be True

Of course its true.

 

[Manonthestreet]

As an aside..here is why we never realized any savings from the jihad against smoking

The idea that spending more on preventive care will reduce overall health care spending is widely believed and often promoted as a reason to support reform. It’s thought that too many people with chronic illnesses wait until they are truly ill before seeking care, often in emergency rooms, where it costs more. It should follow then that treating diseases earlier, or screening for them before they become more serious, would wind up saving money in the long run.

Unfortunately, almost none of this is true. Preventive Care Saves Money? Sorry, It’s Too Good to Be True

Of course its true.

Now go read

 

[debbiedowner]

Hilarious.
It was the Dems that shoved Obamacare down our throats while exempting themselves from that law and continuing their golden coverage for themselves.

They weren't exempt then when it was passed and they are not exempt now.

Is Congress Exempt from GOP Health Bill? - FactCheck.org

 

[debbiedowner]

Hilarious.
It was the Dems that shoved Obamacare down our throats while exempting themselves from that law and continuing their golden coverage for themselves.

A Russian lie parroted by useful idiots.

Bullshit...liar.
Congress Is Getting A Special Exemption From ObamaCare--And No, It's Not Legal

Like I said they are not exempt.

 

[MadChemist]

Do you pay taxes?

Actually its none of your business, I am saying no tax dollars should subsidise their health ins.
They just gave themselves a huge tax cut, and they still want us to help them pay for their
health ins.

Ryan is a pill. He married a rich wife who inherited lots of money.

He is in love with Ann Rand , wonder if he knows she was an atheist. She also collected SS and Medicare.

It's Ayn Rand....just so you know.

And what has that got to do with anything ?

 

[MadChemist]

I am not trying to even change you Republican and Trump lovers mind, because its a waste of time, that is not why I'm here, I'm here to debate your posts and post about what the GOP is doing.

So get to it.

But facts do a great deal more than commentary.

 

[MadChemist]

As an aside..here is why we never realized any savings from the jihad against smoking

The idea that spending more on preventive care will reduce overall health care spending is widely believed and often promoted as a reason to support reform. It’s thought that too many people with chronic illnesses wait until they are truly ill before seeking care, often in emergency rooms, where it costs more. It should follow then that treating diseases earlier, or screening for them before they become more serious, would wind up saving money in the long run.

Unfortunately, almost none of this is true. Preventive Care Saves Money? Sorry, It’s Too Good to Be True

Of course its true.

Well, no it isn't.

At least not according to the studies cited.

The entire premise of Obamacare was built on a pack of false assumptions.

Since it appears you can't click the link....

The idea that spending more on preventive care will reduce overall health care spending is widely believed and often promoted as a reason to support reform. It’s thought that too many people with chronic illnesses wait until they are truly ill before seeking care, often in emergency rooms, where it costs more. It should follow then that treating diseases earlier, or screening for them before they become more serious, would wind up saving money in the long run.

Unfortunately, almost none of this is true.

Let’s begin with emergency rooms, which many people believed would get less use after passage of the Affordable Care Act. The opposite occurred. It’s not just the A.C.A. The Oregon Medicaid Health Insurance experiment, which randomly chose some uninsured people to get Medicaid before the A.C.A. went into effect, also found that insurance led to increased use of emergency medicine. Massachusetts saw the same effect after it introduced a program to increase the number of insured residents.

Emergency room care is not free, after all. People didn’t always choose it because they couldn’t afford to go to a doctor’s office. They often went there because it was more convenient. When we decreased the cost for people to use that care, many used it more.

 

[tigerred59]

Well if we do , we have to cut all subsidies to state and government employees and that includes him and his congress pals. This makes people like me not even want to pay taxes, because it goes to Congress and we foot their salaries and health ins. They are a drain on society. I have about had it with the GOP. I can't wait to see them smother.

Yet they did a humongous tax cut for the rich.

There are consequences for our votes...I hope he strips these programs down to the white meat, its time these hicky fuckin redneck voters feel the impact of thier votes and I'm tired of democrats trying to save these people....cut away Ryan, may the force and the pen be with you...and start with the south and work your way up!!

 

[MadChemist]

Well if we do , we have to cut all subsidies to state and government employees and that includes him and his congress pals. This makes people like me not even want to pay taxes, because it goes to Congress and we foot their salaries and health ins. They are a drain on society. I have about had it with the GOP. I can't wait to see them smother.

Yet they did a humongous tax cut for the rich.

There are consequences for our votes...I hope he strips these programs down to the white meat, its time these hicky fuckin redneck voters feel the impact of thier votes and I'm tired of democrats trying to save these people....cut away Ryan, may the force and the pen be with you...and start with the south and work your way up!!

You'll need to vote some more right wingers into office first.

Ryan can blather all he wants because he knows the democrats will stop him.

That way he looks good but really need not delivery.

 

[Nia88]

No problem, Trump will fight that tooth and nail. I'm pretty sure he gave that promise in his campaign so you have no need to worry.

And you trust Trump to keep his promise on that.