Russia's invasions from a Finnish perspective +++

[RodISHI]

@RodISHI

@RodISHI, we could see in your video the change that has been made since the 1990s and the arrival of Putin to power it also had a carelessness in the air as with this video of Clinton and Boris Yeltsin laughing together.



Everyone seemed buddy buddy with the Russian leaders and when the change for the worse came everyone seem surprise and let's thing go in a indefference until now but we should always be careful and warry with everyone friends or enemy.
The future of Russian children is well compromised .

The suggestions on youtube brought up several interviews from people throughout the globe. Pretty interesting I thought.

The Russian children are looking to the future. Another video that came up right after this one asked if they liked Putin and almost all of them said no.

 

[RodISHI]

Dalia, I think you would like reading this also.

Strengthening Russia’s Influence in International Affairs, Part II: Russia and Its Neighbors: A Sphere of Influence or a Declining Relationship?

Russia—whether Imperial Russia, the Soviet Union, or post-Soviet Russia—views the security of its frontiers as essential for the security of the homeland. In Moscow’s view, security can be ensured only if Russia maintains a reliable sphere of influence over bordering countries. Although Russia’s...

www.nti.org

 

[gipper]

No gipper, no one wants a nuclear war but it was Putin who came up with this nuclear card that is supposed to be defensive only, right?

The US has NEVER stated nukes would only be used for defense.

You and Tonto say…
"So you think Ukraine should just GIVE Putin the Donbas and Crimea and neutrality, to end a war that Putin started??"

Me says…sarcastically…
“No I think Ukraine should sacrifice rivers of blood serving as US proxy cannon fodder for years to drain Moscow while you sit at home eating Pop Tarts and tweeting.

The consequence of yours and Tonto’s thinking…
I definitely think every single Ukrainian man, woman and child should be sacrificed to this US proxy war for geostrategic dominance rather than yield some Russian-speaking parts of eastern Ukraine who want to be part of Russia anyway. Only a Putin-loving monster would disagree. - Caitlin Johnstone

 

[Dalia]

Dalia, I think you would like reading this also.

Strengthening Russia’s Influence in International Affairs, Part II: Russia and Its Neighbors: A Sphere of Influence or a Declining Relationship?

Russia—whether Imperial Russia, the Soviet Union, or post-Soviet Russia—views the security of its frontiers as essential for the security of the homeland. In Moscow’s view, security can be ensured only if Russia maintains a reliable sphere of influence over bordering countries. Although Russia’s...

www.nti.org

Thank you RodISHI, I will read it but it will took me a time to understand really because it is in English, but the link really explain the situation, for my part I'm not a specialist in Russia but since the war people want to know why and what went wrong?

But I am sure (because I follow the source that gives REAL information about Russian and Putin) that Putin is wrong and the old world will pay for his act.

 

[Dalia]

The US has NEVER stated nukes would only be used for defense.

You and Tonto say…
"So you think Ukraine should just GIVE Putin the Donbas and Crimea and neutrality, to end a war that Putin started??"

Me says…sarcastically…
“No I think Ukraine should sacrifice rivers of blood serving as US proxy cannon fodder for years to drain Moscow while you sit at home eating Pop Tarts and tweeting.

The consequence of yours and Tonto’s thinking…
I definitely think every single Ukrainian man, woman and child should be sacrificed to this US proxy war for geostrategic dominance rather than yield some Russian-speaking parts of eastern Ukraine who want to be part of Russia anyway. Only a Putin-loving monster would disagree. - Caitlin Johnstone

Yes, the US does not have nuclear weapons to never use them under any circumstances, there is a nuance Gipper.
Putin used the word nuclear in pharses as a threat and it is he who is the aggressor and not the defendant
As for the rest of your post, I don’t understand where you’re going with this?

 

[RodISHI]

Thank you RodISHI, I will read it but it will took me a time to understand really because it is in English, but the link really explain the situation, for my part I'm not a specialist in Russia but since the war people want to know why and what went wrong?

But I am sure (because I follow the source that gives REAL information about Russian and Putin) that Putin is wrong and the old world will pay for his act.

You are welcome Dalia. Now to get it to translate to French you can use google search.

This link you should be able to use and choose the translate option. It also has Part 1

find https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/strengthening-russias-influence-in-international-affairs-part-ii-russia-and-its-neighbors-a-sphere-of-influence-or-a-declining-relationship/ - Google Search

 

[Dalia]

You are welcome Dalia. Now to get it to translate to French you can use google search.

This link you should be able to use and choose the translate option. It also has Part 1

find https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/strengthening-russias-influence-in-international-affairs-part-ii-russia-and-its-neighbors-a-sphere-of-influence-or-a-declining-relationship/ - Google Search

Merci beaucoup , i try my best to follow -up because in PM others members send me some videos about Putin but for those video they are for Putin coming from consevatives member
This war is doing some confict here at the forum beetween those who are for Putin and those who are against like me.

 

[RodISHI]

Merci beaucoup , i try my best to follow -up because in PM others members send me some videos about Putin but for those video they are for Putin coming from consevatives member
This war is doing some confict here at the forum beetween those who are for Putin and those who are against like me.

Well I'm conservative but also liberal to a point as far as peoples freedom to make perosnal choices as long as they don't require my involvement in any manner so I suppose we both fit into that off category at times my friend.

 

[Dalia]

Dalia, I think you would like reading this also.

Strengthening Russia’s Influence in International Affairs, Part II: Russia and Its Neighbors: A Sphere of Influence or a Declining Relationship?

Russia—whether Imperial Russia, the Soviet Union, or post-Soviet Russia—views the security of its frontiers as essential for the security of the homeland. In Moscow’s view, security can be ensured only if Russia maintains a reliable sphere of influence over bordering countries. Although Russia’s...

www.nti.org

This sentence is important in the link you have give to me: Today’s Ukrainians have a very different point of view. The current president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, said that "everything that remains 'in common' between us is one thing, the state border".
And it’s like a neighbor comes to me to tell me how I should act for me, it’s the same thing.
And one question that keeps me wondering, since when did he plan his invasion and how far will he go?

 

[Dalia]

Well I'm conservative but also liberal to a point as far as peoples freedom to make perosnal choices as long as they don't require my involvement in any manner so I suppose we both fit into that off category at times my friend.

Yes, for my part i'm a complete conservative, i could never be a democrat but lately i get along well with them about this subject

 

[RodISHI]

This sentence is important in the link you have give to me: Today’s Ukrainians have a very different point of view. The current president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, said that "everything that remains 'in common' between us is one thing, the state border".
And it’s like a neighbor comes to me to tell me how I should act for me, it’s the same thing.
And one question that keeps me wondering, since when did he plan his invasion and how far will he go?

The anwser to how far he wants to go at the very least is in that article also.

 

[gipper]

Yes, the US does not have nuclear weapons to never use them under any circumstances, there is a nuance Gipper.
Putin used the word nuclear in pharses as a threat and it is he who is the aggressor and not the defendant
As for the rest of your post, I don’t understand where you’re going with this?

No…your changing the subject. You state nukes are for defense only. Now you say nukes can be used. When? I never stated they should never be used, though I do believe that.

Clearly this is not the thinking of the idiots running the US. Hell…dumb Don threatened to nuke Iran and NK. Probably threatened China too.

It’s also well known by those of us who have studied this topic that the US has considered first strike nuclear action against the USSR and Cuba.

 

[Dalia]

The anwser to how far he wants to go at the very least is in that article also.

I did not read completly but my little finger tell me it is about money. The enormous coal wealth of the Donbass basin (107 billion tonnes in 2013), the huge iron deposit of Krivoï-Rog (7 billion tonnes in 2002)

No…your changing the subject. You state nukes are for defense only. Now you say nukes can be used. When? I never stated they should never be used, though I do believe that.

Clearly this is not the thinking of the idiots running the US. Hell…dumb Don threatened to nuke Iran and NK. Probably threatened China too.

It’s also well known by those of us who have studied this topic that the US has considered first strike nuclear action against the USSR and Cuba.

I don’t change my mind is that I either expressed myself wrong or you don’t understand what I’m saying!
I was saying that when Putin talked about activity of the deterrent weapon, he did it offensively and "normally" that sentence is used defensively.
Now you agree with me?

 

[Dalia]

The anwser to how far he wants to go at the very least is in that article also.

In the article, there is this and since Biden tried to show his muscles by saying Putin will no longer be able to govern in the future ( i agree with him on this point) all this seems increasingly real.

From your article :
The likelihood that NATO will launch a massive ground offensive against Russia is unrealistic. Whatever threat Russia fears, it will not come from its neighbours, but most likely from its distant adversary, the United States.