Dubya
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- Dec 29, 2012
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The point of asking the question is very simple. We've been visiting the arctic in nuclear submarines since '58 and had satellite coverage since late '78.
The point of asking the question is obvious to anyone....you don't want to actually state that nothing would falsify the AGW hypothesis for you. No matter what happens up to and including another little ice age, you will continue to believe that CO2 causes global warming.
Tell me, do you believe anything going on in the arctic is unique to the climate in earth history? Do you believe the ice cover was greater than today during the peak of the holocene maximum?....do you believe it was equal or greater than today's during the roman warm period?....how about the medieval warm period...was it equal to today during that time?....how about prior to the onset of the ice age that we are currently coming out of?....
And by the way, even your climate priests admit that warming isn't the primary cause of arctic ice loss...it has been due to wind and storms....not warming.
We can determine if an area was ice covered in the past by taking sediment core samples of the ocean floor and all the scientific reports I've seen say the Arctic Ocean was ice covered during the Holocene Climatic Optimum.
If you have any different scientific reports, then post them!
Get that geologist buddy to help you out, because the last time I checked a course in Invertebrate Paleontology was needed to get a degree in Geology.
You believe ice melts without heat! That really makes sense, but a Physics course isn't an enema! I'm sure Denialistas sent to Hell claim it isn't warm there, too!