Russian Sambo.

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    Fedor Emelianenko - Russian fighter style Rancriotin. A fight without rules. In these battles every sport preparation is welcomed. Fedor shows "combat sambo", but not "sports sambo".
    Of course, Fedor is a great fighter. He "kills" the opponent in a few minutes.
     
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    What's better than Fedor's throws? His submissions.

     
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    I had a 3rd Don show me how a boxer can negate the Martial Artists feet. It's by turning sideways and putting most of the weight on the back foot. The kicks and sweeps to the forward foot becomes worthless. And it leaves the Martial Artist open for the boxer to close while the Martial Artist is balanced that way.
     
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    When this was done Couture was at his Hight of his UFC career. He was about the Best UFC Heavyweight that has ever lived. Note the word "Heavyweight". And he was in his prime. Meanwhile, Toney, while when he was at his prime, was one of the best Middleweights ever. But he finally retired. It looks like he pulled a super Foreman and had way too many Big Macs, Fries and Shakes and was well past his prime. Too much weight loses as much power and speed as too little weight. And Toney was definitely on the slow side which took away any advantage he might have had at all. His hits were slow and that allow Couture to get into the exact position he needed and to manhandle Toney any way he wanted. Plus, it appears Couture was well trained for this particular fight and Toney just showed up on the Bus.
     
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    There was a Russian cage fighter back in the 90's--I think his name was Zinoviez or Zinoviev? He used Sambo to win a ton of matches that were fun to watch. Myself, I prefer De Todos Partes and Tai Chi Push Hands and Hook Fingers.
     
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    Frankly speaking, I did not see such competitions in the 1990s, since there was banditry and war in Russia. On TV, the devil knows what, from flying saucers to ghosts. Cable and satellite television became available in the second half of the 90s only for people with a good salary. A good salary is more than $ 500 per month. Cache in in hand. Satellite television cost 70 dollars a month.
     
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    And none of these high level boxers getting whipped by martial artists thought of this or had coaches/trainers who knew of this secret technique that "no can defend" right? You've got the secret key that they just couldn't figure out. Right...

    There are literally dozens of well documented challenge matches where boxers face off against martial artists and they lose the overwhelming majority of them. Wrestlers can control where the fight goes, boxers cannot because it's a matter of time before they get grabbed and all their skills are rendered useless.
     
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    Nope.

    1. This was the 2nd to last fight of Couture's career, he was 47 years old and way past his prime, hence taking the gimmick fight against the boxer in his twilight. Couture has a very long career but he was in his prime in the early 2003-2006 fighting against Lidell, Ortiz, and Belfort at LHW.

    2. Couture had returned to light heavyweight at this point in his career, the two fights prior to this (Hunt, Vera) both being at 205 lbs LHW. The fight was at heavweight (for Toney) but Couture came in at 220, which is just a light heavyweight who didn't bother cutting weight for the fight since he didn't need to.

    It didn't take Couture being in his prime to take down a boxer, and once on the ground the boxer is helpless.

    Actually Toney had fights in every year leading up to the Couture bout, and continued boxing afterwards. He won the cruiserweight championship in 2003 then moved up to heavyweight where he beat Evander Holyfield. He was five years younger than Couture when they fought, and had been at heavyweight for seven years.
     
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    So... who has won? whose kung fu is better?=))
     
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    This is not true.
    Sambo was created as a self-defense tool for the police (NKVD).
    This is a real situation, not a battle in the ring.
    The logic is simple.
    What will you do if a person takes out a knife and hits you?
    Or pulls out a gun. Or brass knuckles.
    You can not fight like in the ring. he will kill you.
    You only have 1 chance to grab his hands.
    Do not let him use his weapon. This is a very frequent scenario in real life.

    here people did not control the hands of attackers
    (Pregnant women and children please do not look at these videos.)


     

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