Russia taunts US with biggest military offensive since the Cold War

[GLASNOST]

Russia has no aircraft carriers.
No one.
Admiral Kuznetsov is not aircraft carrier.
This is another class of ship - aircraft cruiser.

Are you sure?

 

[GLASNOST]

Nothing he is bringing to the region indicated ground force participation. Perhaps if a few troop transport ships carrying an armoured infantry unit or two or some artillery units such as the US has deployed the fleet may have some purpose such as force protection, but if not all they are doing is adding twenty planes to the show.

No cannons on board?

The battle cruiser has a large compliment of all types of missiles, but to make a significant difference on the ground, ground units are needed and particularly mechanized infantry units. Those could be transported to the area via air transport or via troop carriers via the Black Sea. If another compliment of Marines is sent to supplement the ones already there protecting the port it will indicate a strategy of ground forces involvement. Russian Marines are already trained to work with Naval forces and the carrier in question has the ability to give force protection and support to one, possibly two infantry units operating in an offensive or static defense.

In other words, the Ruskies are capable of deploying whatever they need to get the job done?

 

[GLASNOST]

Many Americans complain that they are tired of being the 'world's policeman', and the sacrifice in blood and treasure that comes with that. Well then, maybe it is a good thing that other countries are shouldering the burden?

'Policing' is a red herring. American's "sacrifice in blood" has nothing to do with 'policing'. To die while saving the world is at least a noble thing. Dying to make business tycoons (and oil-bartering politicians) multi-Gazillionaries is not very noble at all. The American Military-Industrial complex is bleeding its' countrymen dry. I suppose the government will probably start making condoms illegal ...... sooner or later.

 

[Camp]

Nothing he is bringing to the region indicated ground force participation. Perhaps if a few troop transport ships carrying an armoured infantry unit or two or some artillery units such as the US has deployed the fleet may have some purpose such as force protection, but if not all they are doing is adding twenty planes to the show.

No cannons on board?

The battle cruiser has a large compliment of all types of missiles, but to make a significant difference on the ground, ground units are needed and particularly mechanized infantry units. Those could be transported to the area via air transport or via troop carriers via the Black Sea. If another compliment of Marines is sent to supplement the ones already there protecting the port it will indicate a strategy of ground forces involvement. Russian Marines are already trained to work with Naval forces and the carrier in question has the ability to give force protection and support to one, possibly two infantry units operating in an offensive or static defense.

In other words, the Ruskies are capable of deploying whatever they need to get the job done?

Sure, they are. So are many other countries willing to pay the cost in resources and lives of both their own soldiers and the civilians caught in the crossfire and ranks of collateral damage.

 

[Bleipriester]

Why would this be considered a "TAUNT"?

I am wondering that also- since their 'full might' is less than that of one American carrier group.

The US is spending all its money on aggression forces. Other countries don´t need this. Russia can defeat carrier groups easily. They are made to impose hegemony on less powerful countries.

 

[Bleipriester]

Many Americans complain that they are tired of being the 'world's policeman', and the sacrifice in blood and treasure that comes with that. Well then, maybe it is a good thing that other countries are shouldering the burden?

That burden will disappear together with the role of the "world police".

 

[GLASNOST]

Nothing he is bringing to the region indicated ground force participation. Perhaps if a few troop transport ships carrying an armoured infantry unit or two or some artillery units such as the US has deployed the fleet may have some purpose such as force protection, but if not all they are doing is adding twenty planes to the show.

No cannons on board?

The battle cruiser has a large compliment of all types of missiles, but to make a significant difference on the ground, ground units are needed and particularly mechanized infantry units. Those could be transported to the area via air transport or via troop carriers via the Black Sea. If another compliment of Marines is sent to supplement the ones already there protecting the port it will indicate a strategy of ground forces involvement. Russian Marines are already trained to work with Naval forces and the carrier in question has the ability to give force protection and support to one, possibly two infantry units operating in an offensive or static defense.

In other words, the Ruskies are capable of deploying whatever they need to get the job done?

Sure, they are. So are many other countries willing to pay the cost in resources and lives of both their own soldiers and the civilians caught in the crossfire and ranks of collateral damage.

I am not judging their moral values. I only wanted to know their capabilities.

 

[Sonc]

Russia has no aircraft carriers.
No one.
Admiral Kuznetsov is not aircraft carrier.
This is another class of ship - aircraft cruiser.

Are you sure?

Yes.
The concept of the USSR differed from the US concept.

US Aircraft carriers - a 100% base for aircraft. They dont have other weapons.
The Soviet concept - missile cruiser with the ability to carry a small air group.

 

[GLASNOST]

Many Americans complain that they are tired of being the 'world's policeman', and the sacrifice in blood and treasure that comes with that. Well then, maybe it is a good thing that other countries are shouldering the burden?

That burden will disappear together with the role of the "world police".

As I said in post #23 the US is NOT the "world police". That is the excuse the Whine House and the Pentagram use to invade, and destroy the world for the purpose of pirating. As long as they can "pirate" by using the phrase "policing" ... that "role" will only end when the US government is no longer bending forward, exposing it's buttocks to insatiable industry. So don't worry your head over it, your offspring will be killing and dying for the benefit of the rich ------ for many generations to come.

 

[Bleipriester]

Many Americans complain that they are tired of being the 'world's policeman', and the sacrifice in blood and treasure that comes with that. Well then, maybe it is a good thing that other countries are shouldering the burden?

That burden will disappear together with the role of the "world police".

As I said in post #23 the US is NOT the "world police". That is the excuse the Whine House and the Pentagram use to invade, and destroy the world for the purpose of pirating. As long as they can "pirate" by using the phrase "policing" ... that "role" will only end when the US government is no longer bending forward, exposing it's buttocks to insatiable industry. So don't worry your head over it, your offspring will be killing and dying for the benefit of the rich ------ for many generations to come.

You apparently did not understand what I meant, flag shitter.

 

[xyz]

Donald would be the best option, to work with Vladimir. The Russians, whatever their problems, are basically on the West's side. It is time to bring Russia in from the cold.

So you think Donald would help the Russians attack Turkey, the Balkans and Ukraine? I tend to agree he would.

 

[Sonc]

The carrier in their fleet is barely a carrier compared to American carriers or even the French carrier currently operating in the Syria campaign, the Charles DeGaule. It carries only about 20 attack aircraft compared to an American carrier's 85.

185...
The power of any carriers - is a myth.

85,,95,,195,,, - the maximum number of aircraft. Such amount will never take on board. Because it is difficult to move the aircraft on the deck.
On board the 60 (+/-) aircraft. Of these, several
S-61 Sea King,
EA-6 Prowler
C-2 Greyhound
E-2 Hawkeye
And only 40-45 F/A-18 Hornet.
Consider the statistics.
In Operation Desert Storm, the coalition applied 2500-3000 aircraft.
60... 40... 20... aircraft - is negligible.
Another important point - Russia does not need the carrier to "project power" in the region.
Because we do not need to sail across the ocean.

Russia can put the missile attacks from Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, from ships and submarines.
In the operation in Syria are involved 6 TU-160
5 - ТУ95МС
14 - Ту 22 М3
8 - СУ 34
which are based in Russia.
Only these heavy planes have a combat load like a 2 US carriers.

Admiral Kuznetsov does not change anything.

 

[Bleipriester]

Admiral Kuznetsov does not change anything.

It will discharge the Hmeimim Airbase. And as you know the success depends largely on if airstrikes are conducted at the right place on the right time. Especially against a hiding and mobile force like jihadists.

 

[GLASNOST]

Many Americans complain that they are tired of being the 'world's policeman', and the sacrifice in blood and treasure that comes with that. Well then, maybe it is a good thing that other countries are shouldering the burden?

That burden will disappear together with the role of the "world police".

As I said in post #23 the US is NOT the "world police". That is the excuse the Whine House and the Pentagram use to invade, and destroy the world for the purpose of pirating. As long as they can "pirate" by using the phrase "policing" ... that "role" will only end when the US government is no longer bending forward, exposing it's buttocks to insatiable industry. So don't worry your head over it, your offspring will be killing and dying for the benefit of the rich ------ for many generations to come.

You apparently did not understand what I meant, flag shitter.

Well, there you see. That proves that my dog can shit on the flag and I still know more than you. Maybe you should let your dog shit on the flag too. You might learn so many wonderful things.

 

[Syriusly]

Why would this be considered a "TAUNT"?

I am wondering that also- since their 'full might' is less than that of one American carrier group.

The US is spending all its money on aggression forces. Other countries don´t need this. Russia can defeat carrier groups easily. They are made to impose hegemony on less powerful countries.

LOL- so Russia sends its one little 'carrier group' out to impose hegemony on a less powerful country and the Russia fans are overjoyed.

 

[barryqwalsh]

Ex-Nato boss: Don't let Putin get away with it

A former Nato secretary general has urged the EU to give a "strong reaction" towards Russian posturing and not let Vladimir Putin "get away with it".

Jaap de Hoop Scheffer's warning comes as a Russian taskforce is on a course to sail through the North Sea and English Channel.

Two Royal Navy destroyers have been sent to meet the Russian taskforce which is reportedly planning to take part in a final assault on Aleppo in Syria.

Audio
BBC Radio 4 - World at One, Ex-Nato boss: Don't let Putin get away with it

 

[GLASNOST]

Ex-Nato boss: Don't let Putin get away with it

'Get away with ...' WHAT exactly? Putting his ships to sail? Russia is a sea-going nation. Who the fuck is NATO to say what Russian should do? And it was an "ex" who? I think I'm going to start learning Russian and get ready for the new (and presumably better) world.

An Ex-Tesco boss: Don't let NATO get away with it!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Russia has begun its biggest surface deployment since the end of the Cold War as it aims to effectively end the war in Syria on the eve of the US election, Nato officials warned last night.

The Kremlin is sending the full might of its Northern Fleet and part of the Baltic Fleet to reinforce a final assault on the city of Aleppo in a fortnight, according to Western intelligence.



Russia taunts US with biggest military offensive since the Cold War

All major nations regularly conduct military training exercises.

How is this a taunt at us by Russia but our military exercises in Eastern Europe and South Korea are not?

 

[whitehall]

How the hell do you "taunt" a freaking president who allegedly ate pizza while watching a U.S. Embassy in real time overrun by Islamic extremists and he never lifted a freaking finger? The short answer is that Barry Hussein ain't got a freaking clue about "Russian Offensives" and neither does the wife of a president who bombed a defenseless country into the stone age when he was caught with his pants down.

 

[JimBowie1958]

How the hell do you "taunt" a freaking president who allegedly ate pizza while watching a U.S. Embassy in real time overrun by Islamic extremists and he never lifted a freaking finger? The short answer is that Barry Hussein ain't got a freaking clue about "Russian Offensives" and neither does the wife of a president who bombed a defenseless country into the stone age when he was caught with his pants down.

You threaten to lace his dope stash with formaldehyde?