Russia: Saints or Sinners?

[Denechek]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

 

[B. Kidd]

If it was Trump who got assasinated, do you think for a minute the leftist MSM would accept responsibility for creating an environment that contributed to that?........even tho' most know that they have being trying to de-legitimize Trump everyday since he got elected.

 

[MindWars]

Well at least Trump had something to say, so far I saw nothing from that CYKA in office now.

AND FROM RT :
The team of Russian investigators to probe the murder of ambassador Andrey Karlov will travel to Turkey on Tuesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has announced. Lavrov added that the diplomat’s murder will be jointly investigated by Moscow and Ankara.

The Russian Foreign Minister also noted that the murder of the Russian ambassador was carried out to derail Russian-Turkish efforts in fighting terror.

 

[B. Kidd]

Well at least Trump had something to say, so far I saw nothing from that CYKA in office now.

AND FROM RT :
The team of Russian investigators to probe the murder of ambassador Andrey Karlov will travel to Turkey on Tuesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has announced. Lavrov added that the diplomat’s murder will be jointly investigated by Moscow and Ankara.

The Russian Foreign Minister also noted that the murder of the Russian ambassador was carried out to derail Russian-Turkish efforts in fighting terror.



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And Obama birdied the 4th hole at a Hawaiian golf course, while thinking that it was only a diplomat and besides, no big deal we lost one too in Libya.

 

[turzovka]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks. (But this ambassador did not deserve to die for whomever to make their case. I disapprove of the act.)

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

 

[MindWars]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks.

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

Putin is trying to undo what his communist Country was.
MSM and the US ESP, will blame Russia, Russia isn't doing half the BS we are seeing.
If Russia did something Russia will admit to it. They are being set up to look like they've done things.
Russia can't touch what these Muslim Countries are doing, and the US.

Russia is trying to come back from the depths of economic hell....

 

[MindWars]

 

[turzovka]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks.

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

Putin is trying to undo what his communist Country was.
MSM and the US ESP, will blame Russia, Russia isn't doing half the BS we are seeing.
If Russia did something Russia will admit to it. They are being set up to look like they've done things.
Russia can't touch what these Muslim Countries are doing, and the US.

Russia is trying to come back from the depths of economic hell....

Well, I will agree that Russia has been a sleeping bear for a good number of years as a serious military menace, the Ukraine notwithstanding.

But as it is, they cannot be trusted, they can be very patient in their global designs. I have no trust in China either. As far as Putin goes, I think he is far more show than sincerity. Look what he did to Pussy Riot. : )

 

[B. Kidd]

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Wow! MSM is now competing with Congress..........

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

Not enough unbiased TRUTHFUL information to make that determination. Russia wants their sea port and is defending an allie. What if we did the same with one of our allies?

 

[Denechek]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks.

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

Putin is trying to undo what his communist Country was.
MSM and the US ESP, will blame Russia, Russia isn't doing half the BS we are seeing.
If Russia did something Russia will admit to it. They are being set up to look like they've done things.
Russia can't touch what these Muslim Countries are doing, and the US.

Russia is trying to come back from the depths of economic hell....

Russia has been on the front lines in the fight against terrorism much longer than we have. They have also opened up humanitarian corridors for aid which have been sabotaged by Al Queda (see: burning buses) Still, our media continues to say they have been committing the atrocities when the people on the ground testify that it was the "rebels" (or terrorists) They cannot hide the fact that Russia brokered the cease fire with Turkey, but they still push the narrative because it gives them cover on the Heillery scandals. Also, to admit the truth would be to admit media culpability in the murder of a diplomat.

 

[MindWars]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks.

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

Putin is trying to undo what his communist Country was.
MSM and the US ESP, will blame Russia, Russia isn't doing half the BS we are seeing.
If Russia did something Russia will admit to it. They are being set up to look like they've done things.
Russia can't touch what these Muslim Countries are doing, and the US.

Russia is trying to come back from the depths of economic hell....

Russia has been on the front lines in the fight against terrorism much longer than we have. They have also opened up humanitarian corridors for aid which have been sabotaged by Al Queda (see: burning buses) Still, our media continues to say they have been committing the atrocities when the people on the ground testify that it was the "rebels" (or terrorists) They cannot hide the fact that Russia brokered the cease fire with Turkey, but they still push the narrative because it gives them cover on the Heillery scandals.

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[initforme]

Russia is a big time sinner. Cannot be trusted at all. Putin is bad news. Facts are facts.

 

[Tehon]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks.

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

Putin is trying to undo what his communist Country was.
MSM and the US ESP, will blame Russia, Russia isn't doing half the BS we are seeing.
If Russia did something Russia will admit to it. They are being set up to look like they've done things.
Russia can't touch what these Muslim Countries are doing, and the US.

Russia is trying to come back from the depths of economic hell....

Well, I will agree that Russia has been a sleeping bear for a good number of years as a serious military menace, the Ukraine notwithstanding.

But as it is, they cannot be trusted, they can be very patient in their global designs. I have no trust in China either. As far as Putin goes, I think he is far more show than sincerity. Look what he did to Pussy Riot. : )

What did he do to Pussy Riot? Aside from letting those two girls out of jail early I mean.

 

[B. Kidd]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks.

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

Putin is trying to undo what his communist Country was.
MSM and the US ESP, will blame Russia, Russia isn't doing half the BS we are seeing.
If Russia did something Russia will admit to it. They are being set up to look like they've done things.
Russia can't touch what these Muslim Countries are doing, and the US.

Russia is trying to come back from the depths of economic hell....

Well, I will agree that Russia has been a sleeping bear for a good number of years as a serious military menace, the Ukraine notwithstanding.

But as it is, they cannot be trusted, they can be very patient in their global designs. I have no trust in China either. As far as Putin goes, I think he is far more show than sincerity. Look what he did to Pussy Riot. : )

We've had a well hidden agenda with China for sometime now. They can't be trusted, for sure. China hacked our DoD and OPM and we didn't threaten them with payback, nor do jack about it. What was up with that?

 

[turzovka]

Reading the accounts in the media of the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, the media is taking two diametrically opposed positions at the same time:

1) While it is said the gunman was retaliating for war crimes committed by Russia in Aleppo, the media refuses to accept responsibility for creating the environment that contributed to this murder. They maintain that Russia is in fact guilty of atrocities and the genocide of the people of Aleppo.

2) The motive of the gunman could have been to derail the alliance that had been struck which brokered the current cease fire.

Putin speaks out after Russian ambassador killing

Which is it? Are the Russians the saints in this scenario or the sinners?

The Russian regime, by and large, has always been an evil force in this world since the time of the Bolsheviks.

Now if you are going to ask when it's Islam against Islam, who are the good guys --- that's a real brain teaser.

Putin is trying to undo what his communist Country was.
MSM and the US ESP, will blame Russia, Russia isn't doing half the BS we are seeing.
If Russia did something Russia will admit to it. They are being set up to look like they've done things.
Russia can't touch what these Muslim Countries are doing, and the US.

Russia is trying to come back from the depths of economic hell....

Russia has been on the front lines in the fight against terrorism much longer than we have. They have also opened up humanitarian corridors for aid which have been sabotaged by Al Queda (see: burning buses) Still, our media continues to say they have been committing the atrocities when the people on the ground testify that it was the "rebels" (or terrorists) They cannot hide the fact that Russia brokered the cease fire with Turkey, but they still push the narrative because it gives them cover on the Heillery scandals.

If you are claiming Russia has done some good the past ten years to quell a conflict or offer some assistance to Middle East causes... well, maybe.

But if you are asking if I think Russia is a good force in this world vs a bad force (even the past 20 years only) I would not even give them a 1 on the meter on a scale of 1 - 10 for goodness.

Look how much they care about their own people vs. military might and still making the govt the all powerful. Many freedoms not allowed. Plus they still rule like atheists despite some overtures towards the Russian Orthodox Church.

 

[MindWars]

What you guys are totally missing is RUSSIA does not want in the NEW WORLD ORDER/ONE WORLD ORDER Globalist control grid.
The globalist want us in it, this is why we see what we see here now.

Since Russia does not want involved in this so they are intentionally being blamed for everything, set up, blackmailed. What do we expect him to do he must stand up for his Country and protect them .

 

[initforme]

Belief in a strong military is the sign of a weak leader.

 

[Hossfly]

Russia is a big time sinner. Cannot be trusted at all. Putin is bad news. Facts are facts.

If Ike had let Patton have his way we wouldn't have been wading in shit since 1945.

 

[turzovka]

What did he do to Pussy Riot? Aside from letting those two girls out of jail early I mean.

He put them in jail.

It was just a joke anyway, not my star witnesses.