Rumor Has It: WI To Use The Nat'l Guard On Protestors?

[Madeline]

I just cannot imagine this is true....what a public relations nightmare that would be. It'd take all of 5 seconds to hear someone compare the National Guard busting heads in Wisconsin to the soliders in Libya shooting protestors.

Whaca think?

 

[uscitizen]

We need to show the world we are no better than Libya or Egypt.

There is a long history in the USA of using the national guard against union protestors.
We do after all have a government by the corporations and for the corporations.

 

[Dot Com]

Seeing as the Gov using them would be a Repub, doesn't surprise me a bit.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I just cannot imagine this is true....what a public relations nightmare that would be. It'd take all of 5 seconds to hear someone compare the National Guard busting heads in Wisconsin to the soliders in Libya shooting protestors.

Whaca think?

Rumor has it that Obama wants to start a civilian defense force.

Wait, he said he wants to do that, maybe it is not a rumor.

If the governor call out the Guard I will weigh in on it, I will not weigh in on rumors.

 

[Sunni Man]

I just cannot imagine this is true....what a public relations nightmare that would be. It'd take all of 5 seconds to hear someone compare the National Guard busting heads in Wisconsin to the soliders in Libya shooting protestors.

Whaca think?

Fusion Centers: what every American needs to know.

 

[uscitizen]

Apr 20, 1914:
Militia slaughters strikers at Ludlow, Colorado
Ending a bitter coal-miners' strike, Colorado militiamen attack a tent colony of strikers, killing dozens of men, women, and children.

The conflict had begun the previous September. About 11,000 miners in southern Colorado went on strike against the powerful Colorado Fuel & Iron Corporation (CF&I) to protest low pay, dangerous working conditions, and the company's autocratic dominance over the workers' lives. The CF&I, which was owned by the Rockefeller family and Standard Oil, responded to the strike by immediately evicting the miners and their families from company-owned shacks. With help from the United Mine Workers, the miners moved with their families to canvas tent colonies scattered around the nearby hills and continued to strike.

When the evictions failed to end the strike, the Rockefeller interests hired private detectives that attacked the tent colonies with rifles and Gatling guns. The miners fought back, and several were killed. When the tenacity of the strikers became apparent, the Rockefellers approached the governor of Colorado, who authorized the use of the National Guard. The Rockefellers agreed to pay their wages.

At first, the strikers believed that the government had sent the National Guard to protect them. They soon discovered, though, that the militia was under orders to break the strike. On this day in 1914, two companies of guardsmen attacked the largest tent colony of strikers near the town of Ludlow, home to about 1,000 men, women, and children. The attack began in the morning with a barrage of bullets fired into the tents. The miners shot back with pistols and rifles.

After a strike leader was killed while attempting to negotiate a truce, the strikers feared the attack would intensify. To stay safe from gunfire, women and children took cover in pits dug beneath the tents. At dusk, guardsmen moved down from the hills and set the tent colony on fire with torches, shooting at the families as they fled into the hills. The true carnage, however, was not discovered until the next day, when a telephone linesman discovered a pit under one of the tents filled with the burned remains of 11 children and 2 women.

Militia slaughters strikers at Ludlow, Colorado — History.com This Day in History — 4/20/1914

 

[zzzz]

On May 3, 1998, the Washington State Emergency Operations Center (EOC) activated in response to a civil disturbance at the Washington State University in Pullman. The disturbance developed when students' end-of-the-year celebrations got out of hand. The disturbances consisted of large crowds of students lining the streets, throwing rocks, debris, beer bottles, and starting fires. Local and state law enforcement officials were assembled to restore order. Several officials were injured. Washington National Guard (NG) units were placed on standby status.

Washington Military Department Emergency Management Division - Hazards - Civil Disturbance

Deployment of National Guard forces to quell or control civil disturbances have long been the norm in the USA. Many of us are very familar with the 60's and 70's and the use of the Guard. Kent State will always weigh heavily on any deployment here but there is a change in the equation now because many of the Guard are war veterans.

 

[rightwinger]

I doubt if he would be that stupid...

It would have the opposite effect and more people would show up

 

[Big Black Dog]

I just cannot imagine this is true....what a public relations nightmare that would be. It'd take all of 5 seconds to hear someone compare the National Guard busting heads in Wisconsin to the soliders in Libya shooting protestors.

Whaca think?

I don't think calling in the National Guard is necessary at all. The Governor there should do like President Reagan did years ago with the Air Traffic Controllers. Tell them they need to be back in the classrooms teaching on Tuesday morning and to knock this crap off. Those not back at the school house teaching on Tuesday morning will be considered FIRED.

 

[uscitizen]

Yep use the kids as blackmailing leverage.

Has anyone even considered the impact on them?

 

[American Horse]

Yep use the kids as blackmailing leverage.

Has anyone even considered the impact on them?

In what regard; you mean their willingness to lie and to get fraudulent written excuses, sans ID from doctors to excuse their absencees from their classrooms? Or their lack of willingness to contribute to their own retirement plans, or healthcare insurance, or their support of unions which make a farce of democracy? Is that what you mean?
A lasting impression, I'm sure.

 

[American Horse]

On May 3, 1998, the Washington State Emergency Operations Center (EOC) activated in response to a civil disturbance at the Washington State University in Pullman. The disturbance developed when students' end-of-the-year celebrations got out of hand. The disturbances consisted of large crowds of students lining the streets, throwing rocks, debris, beer bottles, and starting fires. Local and state law enforcement officials were assembled to restore order. Several officials were injured. Washington National Guard (NG) units were placed on standby status.

Washington Military Department Emergency Management Division - Hazards - Civil Disturbance

Deployment of National Guard forces to quell or control civil disturbances have long been the norm in the USA. Many of us are very familar with the 60's and 70's and the use of the Guard. Kent State will always weigh heavily on any deployment here but there is a change in the equation now because many of the Guard are war veterans.

" - Walker said Friday that he updated emergency plans and alerted the National Guard just in case they are needed to ensure state services aren’t interrupted. - "

 

[Flagwavrusa]

I just cannot imagine this is true....what a public relations nightmare that would be. It'd take all of 5 seconds to hear someone compare the National Guard busting heads in Wisconsin to the soliders in Libya shooting protestors.

Whaca think?

When democratically elected officials are set to take away their mafia-like hold on state government, they take to the streets and shut the legislature down. They don't respect democracy, they don't play by the rules, they don't obey the law; I don't know how you deal with such people and restore order short of using some level of force.

 

[California Girl]

Oh good, now we're getting hysterical about rumors.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If the crowds get unruly then the Guard should be called in. You can protest all you want but you have no right to interfere with others who may be trying to conduct business at a government establishment.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I just cannot imagine this is true....what a public relations nightmare that would be. It'd take all of 5 seconds to hear someone compare the National Guard busting heads in Wisconsin to the soliders in Libya shooting protestors.

Whaca think?

When democratically elected officials are set to take away their mafia-like hold on state government, they take to the streets and shut the legislature down. They don't respect democracy, they don't play by the rules, they don't obey the law; I don't know how you deal with such people and restore order short of using some level of force.

I've always believed you are stupid Willow Tree. This post proves you're both stupid and unstable.

 

[rightwinger]

I have always found attack dogs and fire hoses to be most effective....

Throw in a little tear gas and you really show protestors who is boss

 

[Skull Pilot]

I have always found attack dogs and fire hoses to be most effective....

Throw in a little tear gas and you really show protestors who is boss

What if said protesters are interfering with other citizens who are trying to conduct business with the government?

Seriously, blocking halls and means of entry and egress is dangerous to all in the building. They should be cleared out. let them protest outside where they can't endanger the well being of others who are trying to conduct their business.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I have always found attack dogs and fire hoses to be most effective....

Throw in a little tear gas and you really show protestors who is boss

What if said protesters are interfering with other citizens who are trying to conduct business with the government?

Seriously, blocking halls and means of entry and egress is dangerous to all in the building. They should be cleared out. let them protest outside where they can't endanger the well being of others who are trying to conduct their business.

Did you feel the same way in the summer of 2009 as members of Congress were shouted down by Tea Party members?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I have always found attack dogs and fire hoses to be most effective....

Throw in a little tear gas and you really show protestors who is boss

What if said protesters are interfering with other citizens who are trying to conduct business with the government?

Seriously, blocking halls and means of entry and egress is dangerous to all in the building. They should be cleared out. let them protest outside where they can't endanger the well being of others who are trying to conduct their business.

Did you feel the same way in the summer of 2009 as members of Congress were shouted down by Tea Party members?

Shouting at someone and blocking entry and egress to a public building are hardly the same thing.