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If you refused their business because they were jerks or because they wore red shirts- perfectly legal.
So, refusing service because you don't like someone's shirt is morally acceptable? Then why in the fuck is it so objectionable to refuse service that would conflict with your religious beliefs?
the people better start waking up and standing up to this or continue to get beat down and lose your livelihoods.
SNIP;
People who believe it a sacrilege to participate in a gay wedding can keep themselves from being persecuted out of business with some savvy marketing.
By Bruce Takawani
“Sweet Cakes” bakery in Gresham, Oregon, could soon be hit with state-imposed fines of up to $150,000, a threat that goes far beyond stigma and ends up threatening its owners’ ability to practice their trade.
The Federal Bureau of Cakes
That something called the “Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries” could impose such a fine, bankrupt the bakery owners, and pay the award directly to the supposedly wounded “plaintiffs” is a development that those of us who grew up hearing tales of religious persecution and ideological purification behind the “iron curtain” can barely grasp is happening in America during our lifetimes.
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How People In Wedding Trades Can Defend Themselves
The courts tossed your worthy of day-old piss logic decades ago, Bripiss. Only you a few other total morons here fail to recognize that.No, it's what slave owners were told, ten years later, Bripiss.Again, you can bitch all you want, but the courts, law, and constitution are against you
That's what slave owners told their slaves in 1860.
You're just a fucking moron who is incapable of committing logic. Failure to get my point isn't a convincing argument. It's just proof that you're an idiot.
The court never was big on logic. It's a gang of political stooges looking for an excuse to produce the ruling their benefactors put them there to make.
the people better start waking up and standing up to this or continue to get beat down and lose your livelihoods.
SNIP;
People who believe it a sacrilege to participate in a gay wedding can keep themselves from being persecuted out of business with some savvy marketing.
By Bruce Takawani
“Sweet Cakes” bakery in Gresham, Oregon, could soon be hit with state-imposed fines of up to $150,000, a threat that goes far beyond stigma and ends up threatening its owners’ ability to practice their trade.
The Federal Bureau of Cakes
That something called the “Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries” could impose such a fine, bankrupt the bakery owners, and pay the award directly to the supposedly wounded “plaintiffs” is a development that those of us who grew up hearing tales of religious persecution and ideological purification behind the “iron curtain” can barely grasp is happening in America during our lifetimes.
Options for Conscientious Objectors
ALL of it here:
How People In Wedding Trades Can Defend Themselves
the people better start waking up and standing up to this or continue to get beat down and lose your livelihoods.
SNIP;
People who believe it a sacrilege to participate in a gay wedding can keep themselves from being persecuted out of business with some savvy marketing.
By Bruce Takawani
“Sweet Cakes” bakery in Gresham, Oregon, could soon be hit with state-imposed fines of up to $150,000, a threat that goes far beyond stigma and ends up threatening its owners’ ability to practice their trade.
The Federal Bureau of Cakes
That something called the “Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries” could impose such a fine, bankrupt the bakery owners, and pay the award directly to the supposedly wounded “plaintiffs” is a development that those of us who grew up hearing tales of religious persecution and ideological purification behind the “iron curtain” can barely grasp is happening in America during our lifetimes.
Options for Conscientious Objectors
ALL of it here:
How People In Wedding Trades Can Defend Themselves
Your topic is fun for me.
Being gay is a sin in the Bible. So why should we be forced to marry sinners?
Do not judge or be judged right?
Jokes aside, no gays should be able to force Religions to marry them via "Freedom of Religion" the very same Constitutional Big Government Law that protects your way of thinking also protects theirs. Just find someone ordained that doesn't mind.
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Unless the baker advertises Hitler cakes, he/she doesn't have to bake a Hitler cake. The baker wouldn't bake a Hitler cake for anyone. But if the baker agrees to bake a Hitler cake for me, she/he can't refuse to bake one for you.
So what if the baker advertises heterosexual wedding cakes?
If you refused their business because they were jerks or because they wore red shirts- perfectly legal.
So, refusing service because you don't like someone's shirt is morally acceptable? Then why in the fuck is it so objectionable to refuse service that would conflict with your religious beliefs?
Refusing service because someone is an asshole or because of the color of their shirt is both legally and morally acceptable.
Refusing service because someone is black or Jewish or gay or Japanese is not legally acceptable in several states, and not morally acceptable in any.
Unless the baker advertises Hitler cakes, he/she doesn't have to bake a Hitler cake. The baker wouldn't bake a Hitler cake for anyone. But if the baker agrees to bake a Hitler cake for me, she/he can't refuse to bake one for you.
So what if the baker advertises heterosexual wedding cakes?
If the baker advertises she only bakes wedding cakes for heterosexuals or African Americans or Christians or Irish Americans- then that baker is going to have a problem in states like Oregon and Colorado.
Yeah, doesn't work that way when it comes to a wedding cake. Wedding cakes are now for gay people as well. If you can't deal with that, close, you won't be missed.Entirely untrue, but it matters not a damn. Do you think they bake cakes on-site?Freedom means you can walk into any business open to the public and purchase their goods and services, without being turned away on the basis of you race, age, sex, religion, or sexual orientation. Period. End of story.
If you want to be in business, you cannot impugn the freedom of your customers.
Neither the Baker or the Florist denied service IN THEIR BUSINESS.
They denied service over what the cake and flowers were for, which is none of their fucking business,
Here's a lovely cake. If YOU want to ice it once you leave, be my guest.
Have a nice day
That's called fascism, asshole. No one is surprised that you support it.
The courts tossed your worthy of day-old piss logic decades ago, Bripiss. Only you a few other total morons here fail to recognize that.No, it's what slave owners were told, ten years later, Bripiss.That's what slave owners told their slaves in 1860.
You're just a fucking moron who is incapable of committing logic. Failure to get my point isn't a convincing argument. It's just proof that you're an idiot.
The court never was big on logic. It's a gang of political stooges looking for an excuse to produce the ruling their benefactors put them there to make.
Says the poster who has never displayed logic or knowledge........
If you refused their business because they were jerks or because they wore red shirts- perfectly legal.
So, refusing service because you don't like someone's shirt is morally acceptable? Then why in the fuck is it so objectionable to refuse service that would conflict with your religious beliefs?
Refusing service because someone is an asshole or because of the color of their shirt is both legally and morally acceptable.
Refusing service because someone is black or Jewish or gay or Japanese is not legally acceptable in several states, and not morally acceptable in any.
It may not make you a good person, but it's not a justification for government intervention. Failing to give out candy on Holloween also makes you an asshole, but that's also not a justification for government to force you to give it out.
Then seek to amend the Constitution to prohibit public accommodations laws.Again, you can bitch all you want, but the courts, law, and constitution are against youCorrect.
And business owners are at liberty to, through the political process, advocate that their state or local public accommodations laws be repealed if they find them so 'offensive.'
Well, that makes it OK then, right? I mean if you can submit some meaningless petition that politicians will ignore, then you are still free!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Your understanding of freedom makes me want to vomit.
Stalin would love it.
That's what slave owners told their slaves in 1860.
But until that happens, such laws are necessary, proper, and Constitutional, in no way 'violating' the freedom of business owners.
Horseshit. Your theory that the Constitution justifies whatever government does is a symptom of mental retardation.
Again, you can bitch all you want, but the courts, law, and constitution are against youCorrect.Whatever 'principles' these homophobic bakers are hiding behind are based in ignorance and fear. They are not 'principles' but mere excuses to perpetuate more petty repression against a class of American citizens who are committing no crime by simply being who they are.
And business owners are at liberty to, through the political process, advocate that their state or local public accommodations laws be repealed if they find them so 'offensive.'
Well, that makes it OK then, right? I mean if you can submit some meaningless petition that politicians will ignore, then you are still free!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Your understanding of freedom makes me want to vomit.
Stalin would love it.
That's what slave owners told their slaves in 1860.
Yeah, doesn't work that way when it comes to a wedding cake. Wedding cakes are now for gay people as well. If you can't deal with that, close, you won't be missed.Entirely untrue, but it matters not a damn. Do you think they bake cakes on-site?Neither the Baker or the Florist denied service IN THEIR BUSINESS.
They denied service over what the cake and flowers were for, which is none of their fucking business,
Here's a lovely cake. If YOU want to ice it once you leave, be my guest.
Have a nice day
That's called fascism, asshole. No one is surprised that you support it.
Once again- you confuse following the law with 'fascism'.
Then seek to amend the Constitution to prohibit public accommodations laws.Again, you can bitch all you want, but the courts, law, and constitution are against youWell, that makes it OK then, right? I mean if you can submit some meaningless petition that politicians will ignore, then you are still free!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Your understanding of freedom makes me want to vomit.
Stalin would love it.
That's what slave owners told their slaves in 1860.
But until that happens, such laws are necessary, proper, and Constitutional, in no way 'violating' the freedom of business owners.
Horseshit. Your theory that the Constitution justifies whatever government does is a symptom of mental retardation.
Waaah waaaaaah....your theory that the Constitution doesn't apply whenever you don't approve is just a symptom of you being you.
Again, you can bitch all you want, but the courts, law, and constitution are against youCorrect.Whatever 'principles' these homophobic bakers are hiding behind are based in ignorance and fear. They are not 'principles' but mere excuses to perpetuate more petty repression against a class of American citizens who are committing no crime by simply being who they are.
And business owners are at liberty to, through the political process, advocate that their state or local public accommodations laws be repealed if they find them so 'offensive.'
Well, that makes it OK then, right? I mean if you can submit some meaningless petition that politicians will ignore, then you are still free!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Your understanding of freedom makes me want to vomit.
Stalin would love it.
That's what slave owners told their slaves in 1860.
So we passed a Constitutional Amendment ending slavery.
Luckily we won't need to pass a Constitutional Amendment to end bans on gay marriage.
If you refused their business because they were jerks or because they wore red shirts- perfectly legal.
So, refusing service because you don't like someone's shirt is morally acceptable? Then why in the fuck is it so objectionable to refuse service that would conflict with your religious beliefs?
Refusing service because someone is an asshole or because of the color of their shirt is both legally and morally acceptable.
Refusing service because someone is black or Jewish or gay or Japanese is not legally acceptable in several states, and not morally acceptable in any.
Yeah, doesn't work that way when it comes to a wedding cake. Wedding cakes are now for gay people as well. If you can't deal with that, close, you won't be missed.Entirely untrue, but it matters not a damn. Do you think they bake cakes on-site?
They denied service over what the cake and flowers were for, which is none of their fucking business,
Here's a lovely cake. If YOU want to ice it once you leave, be my guest.
Have a nice day
That's called fascism, asshole. No one is surprised that you support it.
Once again- you confuse following the law with 'fascism'.
It's the content of the law that constitutes fascism. You seem to believe it's impossible to have fascist laws. Here's a clue for you, numskull, the Nazis passed laws for everything they did, even sending Jews to concentration camps.
It boggles my mind that you turds are so stupid and brainwashed that you don't understand the distinction between law and justice. A good little toady of the all powerful state believes them to be the same thing, just like you.
Yeah, doesn't work that way when it comes to a wedding cake. Wedding cakes are now for gay people as well. If you can't deal with that, close, you won't be missed.Here's a lovely cake. If YOU want to ice it once you leave, be my guest.
Have a nice day
That's called fascism, asshole. No one is surprised that you support it.
Once again- you confuse following the law with 'fascism'.
It's the content of the law that constitutes fascism. You seem to believe it's impossible to have fascist laws. Here's a clue for you, numskull, the Nazis passed laws for everything they did, even sending Jews to concentration camps.
It boggles my mind that you turds are so stupid and brainwashed that you don't understand the distinction between law and justice. A good little toady of the all powerful state believes them to be the same thing, just like you.
Ahhh, another Godwin moment.
I am surprised.
You are welcome to your interpretation, but the courts have said otherwiseBRIPAT9643 SAID:
“Freedom means there's no Gaystapo telling you who you can do business with. Freedom means the absence of government initiated coercion. You're claiming freedom is where government runs your business and your life.”
Wrong.
Public accommodations laws are necessary, proper, and Constitutional, as authorized by the Commerce Clause; consequently there is no 'coercion,' no one is being 'forced' to do anything, and no freedom is being 'denied.'
Wrong. They are an infringement on your rights. The commerce clause doesn't authorize the federal government to regulate private businesses except in the case of a transaction across state lines, and transfer of funds is the only thing it allows the government to regulate.
