Rove: We Never Claimed Iraqi Oil Revenue Would Pay for War

[Modbert]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6lJjFPNv1s]YouTube - Rove claims Bush administration never said Iraqi oil would help pay for war[/ame]

Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

Wolfowitz Strives To Quell Criticism (washingtonpost.com)

The clip showed Wolfowitz telling a congressional panel, "It's hard to conceive that it would take more forces to provide stability in post-Saddam Iraq than it would take to conduct the war itself," and "The oil revenue of that country could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. We're dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." The show's host, Jon Stewart, hooted, "[Bleeped] that one up, too!"

Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer

Q Back on the cost issue. If the U.S. does not get a second resolution, does the President believe that U.S. taxpayers will disproportionately bear the burden of the reconstruction costs in Iraq?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the reconstruction costs remain a very -- an issue for the future. And Iraq, unlike Afghanistan, is a rather wealthy country. Iraq has tremendous resources that belong to the Iraqi people. And so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burden for their own reconstruction.

And given the fact that Iraq right now suffers under sanctions as a result of Saddam Hussein's repression and Saddam Hussein's attempts to procure weapons which the United Nations have said are sanctionable -- the fact of the matter is that Iraq's reconstruction will be aided by the removal of Saddam Hussein because Iraq will then be able to take its proper place among nations of the world that trades and trades freely, which all benefits the reconstruction of Iraq.

The rewriting of the history will be much tougher for Mr. Rove and his allies with the existence of the internet.

 

[uscitizen]

Why would anyone listen to Rove?

 

[rightwinger]

Why would anyone listen to Rove?

He got Bush elected Governor and two terms as President

 

[rdean]

Why would anyone listen to Rove?

The "architect"?

 

[uscitizen]

Why would anyone listen to Rove?

He got Bush elected Governor and two terms as President

My point exactly.

 

[rdean]

I wonder how right wingers react when they say, "Saddam and Bin Laden worked together" and yet, you have Bush saying, "No one in this administration ever said Iraq had any connection to 9/11"?

Then there is "slam dunk".

Now you have the right saying "We never said Iraqi oil would finance the war".

And right now, there are tens of billions, maybe even a hundred billion in Iraqi money sitting in US banks while this country finances the rebuilding if Iraq. Because Bush and the Republicans signed treaties and contracts that the new president just can't "void". They screwed Obama and screwed the American public. But still, they are bold enough to say, "We are the answer to all the problems we created".

At some point, the Iraqis will want their money that we have to cough up AFTER we rebuild their country.

But oh my how they appreciates us. A man throws his shoes at our president and becomes a "national hero". They even build a huge "shoe monument".

What ever happened to "America Appreciation Day"? Are they our friend or our enemy? If they are our enemy, then why were tens of thousands of Americans maimed and killed?

And yet, Republicans still insist, Republican policies are the "answer".

 

[rdean]

Why would anyone listen to Rove?

For a while, everyone listened.

 

[uscitizen]

Why would Republicans listen to Rove after he got Bush elected twice and per republicans Bush was not a real conservative?

 

[SFC Ollie]

I wonder how right wingers react when they say, "Saddam and Bin Laden worked together" and yet, you have Bush saying, "No one in this administration ever said Iraq had any connection to 9/11"?

Then there is "slam dunk".

Now you have the right saying "We never said Iraqi oil would finance the war".

And right now, there are tens of billions, maybe even a hundred billion in Iraqi money sitting in US banks while this country finances the rebuilding if Iraq. Because Bush and the Republicans signed treaties and contracts that the new president just can't "void". They screwed Obama and screwed the American public. But still, they are bold enough to say, "We are the answer to all the problems we created".

At some point, the Iraqis will want their money that we have to cough up AFTER we rebuild their country.

But oh my how they appreciates us. A man throws his shoes at our president and becomes a "national hero". They even build a huge "shoe monument".

What ever happened to "America Appreciation Day"? Are they our friend or our enemy? If they are our enemy, then why were tens of thousands of Americans maimed and killed?

And yet, Republicans still insist, Republican policies are the "answer".

Really, we do love to stretch things.....

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The monument commemorating the journalist who hurled his shoes at President George W. Bush was taken down a day after it was erected, local officials in Tikrit told CNN.

Shoe-throwing monument removed from Iraqi orphanage - CNN.com

 

[Bill O'Olberman]

Why would Republicans listen to Rove after he got Bush elected twice and per republicans Bush was not a real conservative?

Because Republicans arent real conservatives (as in classical liberals).

 

[Zona]

Why would anyone listen to Rove?

Because Hannity said he is a great american. Damn Fox sucks.

 

[eagleseven]

And Obama never claimed the stimulus would create jobs...

 

[rdean]

I wonder how right wingers react when they say, "Saddam and Bin Laden worked together" and yet, you have Bush saying, "No one in this administration ever said Iraq had any connection to 9/11"?

Then there is "slam dunk".

Now you have the right saying "We never said Iraqi oil would finance the war".

And right now, there are tens of billions, maybe even a hundred billion in Iraqi money sitting in US banks while this country finances the rebuilding if Iraq. Because Bush and the Republicans signed treaties and contracts that the new president just can't "void". They screwed Obama and screwed the American public. But still, they are bold enough to say, "We are the answer to all the problems we created".

At some point, the Iraqis will want their money that we have to cough up AFTER we rebuild their country.

But oh my how they appreciates us. A man throws his shoes at our president and becomes a "national hero". They even build a huge "shoe monument".

What ever happened to "America Appreciation Day"? Are they our friend or our enemy? If they are our enemy, then why were tens of thousands of Americans maimed and killed?

And yet, Republicans still insist, Republican policies are the "answer".

Really, we do love to stretch things.....

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The monument commemorating the journalist who hurled his shoes at President George W. Bush was taken down a day after it was erected, local officials in Tikrit told CNN.

Shoe-throwing monument removed from Iraqi orphanage - CNN.com

From your link:

The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage director.

"Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were the victims of Bush's war," al-Naseri said. "The shoe monument is a gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the journalist."

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Well, at least you admit there was a monument.

I think this sums it up really good:

Does Bush have any clue as to the cultural significance of such an incident? The shoe thrower, an Iraqi journalist, was not longing for notoriety. This was not a political rally, and the incident was not "bizarre." In the Arab world, throwing a show at someone's face is one of the worst insults for a person to make to another human being. As a matter of fact, 29-year-old Muntather Zaidi was actually risking his personal safety, his freedom and conceivably even his life to let the president know that he considered him to be a "dog" and that the shoes were "from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

These are not quite the adulatory deeds and words a modern-day liberator would have liked to see and hear during what was supposed to be his victory lap through the liberated territories.

According to subsequent news reports, many other Iraqis and Middle Eastern people applauded the words and deeds of this journalist and are hailing him as a national hero for Iraq. While I personally do not approve of such demonstrations of hate and disrespect toward our president, these are serious facts the president and his administration are trying to ignore or trivialize.

Second, during a post-incident interview with ABC News' Martha Raddatz, Bush claimed that one of the major theaters in the fight against Al Qaeda turned out to be Iraq. Raddatz corrected him, "But not until after the U.S. invaded." Bush replied, "Yeah, that's right. So what?" Bush then went into his tired denials of the following facts: There was no Al Qaeda presence in Iraq before Bush invaded that country; Saddam Hussein viewed Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda as threats that he would have never tolerated in Iraq; and Al Qaeda's emergence in Iraq is totally attributable to Bush's invasion and occupation of that country.

But what is even more offensive than Bush's attempts to ignore or deny the facts are the condescending, arrogant implications carried by those two little words, "So what?"

Most Americans remember with incredulity and disgust Vice President Dick Cheney's similarly arrogant and condescending answer when the same ABC News correspondent asked him what he thought about polls that indicated two-thirds of Americans believed that the war in Iraq was not worth fighting and that the cost in lives was not worth the gains.

Cheney responded with one single word: "So?"

Shoe thrower exposes Bush's arrogance - latimes.com

If we were so successful in Iraq, where is "America Appreciation Day"? Did we make a friend or an enemy?

 

[Jay Canuck]

There were no WMD's, Bin Laden is still out there, Al Qaida is still rollin and after $3 trillion+ tax dollars spent your own country that is falling apart will see nothing back in the way of cash...... what was the prize again?

 

[rdean]

Why would Republicans listen to Rove after he got Bush elected twice and per republicans Bush was not a real conservative?

Oh, Bush was a "real" conservative all right. Bush was THE conservative. He talked to God. He was incompetent, arrogant, ignorant. The "PERFECT" conservative. The male Sarah Palin.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I wonder how right wingers react when they say, "Saddam and Bin Laden worked together" and yet, you have Bush saying, "No one in this administration ever said Iraq had any connection to 9/11"?

Then there is "slam dunk".

Now you have the right saying "We never said Iraqi oil would finance the war".

And right now, there are tens of billions, maybe even a hundred billion in Iraqi money sitting in US banks while this country finances the rebuilding if Iraq. Because Bush and the Republicans signed treaties and contracts that the new president just can't "void". They screwed Obama and screwed the American public. But still, they are bold enough to say, "We are the answer to all the problems we created".

At some point, the Iraqis will want their money that we have to cough up AFTER we rebuild their country.

But oh my how they appreciates us. A man throws his shoes at our president and becomes a "national hero". They even build a huge "shoe monument".

What ever happened to "America Appreciation Day"? Are they our friend or our enemy? If they are our enemy, then why were tens of thousands of Americans maimed and killed?

And yet, Republicans still insist, Republican policies are the "answer".

Really, we do love to stretch things.....

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The monument commemorating the journalist who hurled his shoes at President George W. Bush was taken down a day after it was erected, local officials in Tikrit told CNN.

Shoe-throwing monument removed from Iraqi orphanage - CNN.com

From your link:

The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage director.

"Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were the victims of Bush's war," al-Naseri said. "The shoe monument is a gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the journalist."

------------------------------

Well, at least you admit there was a monument.

I think this sums it up really good:

Does Bush have any clue as to the cultural significance of such an incident? The shoe thrower, an Iraqi journalist, was not longing for notoriety. This was not a political rally, and the incident was not "bizarre." In the Arab world, throwing a show at someone's face is one of the worst insults for a person to make to another human being. As a matter of fact, 29-year-old Muntather Zaidi was actually risking his personal safety, his freedom and conceivably even his life to let the president know that he considered him to be a "dog" and that the shoes were "from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

These are not quite the adulatory deeds and words a modern-day liberator would have liked to see and hear during what was supposed to be his victory lap through the liberated territories.

According to subsequent news reports, many other Iraqis and Middle Eastern people applauded the words and deeds of this journalist and are hailing him as a national hero for Iraq. While I personally do not approve of such demonstrations of hate and disrespect toward our president, these are serious facts the president and his administration are trying to ignore or trivialize.

Second, during a post-incident interview with ABC News' Martha Raddatz, Bush claimed that one of the major theaters in the fight against Al Qaeda turned out to be Iraq. Raddatz corrected him, "But not until after the U.S. invaded." Bush replied, "Yeah, that's right. So what?" Bush then went into his tired denials of the following facts: There was no Al Qaeda presence in Iraq before Bush invaded that country; Saddam Hussein viewed Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda as threats that he would have never tolerated in Iraq; and Al Qaeda's emergence in Iraq is totally attributable to Bush's invasion and occupation of that country.

But what is even more offensive than Bush's attempts to ignore or deny the facts are the condescending, arrogant implications carried by those two little words, "So what?"

Most Americans remember with incredulity and disgust Vice President Dick Cheney's similarly arrogant and condescending answer when the same ABC News correspondent asked him what he thought about polls that indicated two-thirds of Americans believed that the war in Iraq was not worth fighting and that the cost in lives was not worth the gains.

Cheney responded with one single word: "So?"

Shoe thrower exposes Bush's arrogance - latimes.com

If we were so successful in Iraq, where is "America Appreciation Day"? Did we make a friend or an enemy?

DUH, point is this monument was not built "By the Iraqi people" but was the dream child of a special interest group who used children to accomplish their goals. MAJOR FAIL.

 

[SFC Ollie]

There were no WMD's, Bin Laden is still out there, Al Qaida is still rollin and after $3 trillion+ tax dollars spent your own country that is falling apart will see nothing back in the way of cash...... what was the prize again?

Is your math really that bad?

 

[rdean]

There were no WMD's, Bin Laden is still out there, Al Qaida is still rollin and after $3 trillion+ tax dollars spent your own country that is falling apart will see nothing back in the way of cash...... what was the prize again?

Is your math really that bad?

current cost so far is a trillion:

COSTOFWAR.COM - The Cost of War

That's money actually spent.

Include the cost of tens of thousands of maimed Americans and the CBO's final estimated cost of both wars is three TRILLION.

Why, what did you think it was? 200 billion?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

More BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSH? Really? Yikes!

 

[rdean]

Really, we do love to stretch things.....

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The monument commemorating the journalist who hurled his shoes at President George W. Bush was taken down a day after it was erected, local officials in Tikrit told CNN.

Shoe-throwing monument removed from Iraqi orphanage - CNN.com

From your link:

The orphans helped al-Amiri build the $5,000 structure in 15 days, said Faten Abdulqader al-Naseri, the orphanage director.

"Those orphans who helped the sculptor in building this monument were the victims of Bush's war," al-Naseri said. "The shoe monument is a gift to the next generation to remember the heroic action by the journalist."

------------------------------

Well, at least you admit there was a monument.

I think this sums it up really good:

Does Bush have any clue as to the cultural significance of such an incident? The shoe thrower, an Iraqi journalist, was not longing for notoriety. This was not a political rally, and the incident was not "bizarre." In the Arab world, throwing a show at someone's face is one of the worst insults for a person to make to another human being. As a matter of fact, 29-year-old Muntather Zaidi was actually risking his personal safety, his freedom and conceivably even his life to let the president know that he considered him to be a "dog" and that the shoes were "from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

These are not quite the adulatory deeds and words a modern-day liberator would have liked to see and hear during what was supposed to be his victory lap through the liberated territories.

According to subsequent news reports, many other Iraqis and Middle Eastern people applauded the words and deeds of this journalist and are hailing him as a national hero for Iraq. While I personally do not approve of such demonstrations of hate and disrespect toward our president, these are serious facts the president and his administration are trying to ignore or trivialize.

Second, during a post-incident interview with ABC News' Martha Raddatz, Bush claimed that one of the major theaters in the fight against Al Qaeda turned out to be Iraq. Raddatz corrected him, "But not until after the U.S. invaded." Bush replied, "Yeah, that's right. So what?" Bush then went into his tired denials of the following facts: There was no Al Qaeda presence in Iraq before Bush invaded that country; Saddam Hussein viewed Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda as threats that he would have never tolerated in Iraq; and Al Qaeda's emergence in Iraq is totally attributable to Bush's invasion and occupation of that country.

But what is even more offensive than Bush's attempts to ignore or deny the facts are the condescending, arrogant implications carried by those two little words, "So what?"

Most Americans remember with incredulity and disgust Vice President Dick Cheney's similarly arrogant and condescending answer when the same ABC News correspondent asked him what he thought about polls that indicated two-thirds of Americans believed that the war in Iraq was not worth fighting and that the cost in lives was not worth the gains.

Cheney responded with one single word: "So?"

Shoe thrower exposes Bush's arrogance - latimes.com

If we were so successful in Iraq, where is "America Appreciation Day"? Did we make a friend or an enemy?

DUH, point is this monument was not built "By the Iraqi people" but was the dream child of a special interest group who used children to accomplish their goals. MAJOR FAIL.

Special Interest Group in Iraq. Iraqi "citizens".