Roosevelt/WWII

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    The greatest would have to be FDR, crippled, a world wide depression, the great war, how many could have gone through all that, and yet he screwed up with the Japanese internment. Definitely tough times, and that work laid the foundations for our liberal democracy that raised the boats for so many. LBJ continued that tough leveling task. Reagan was the beginning of the end and while I think he realized he screwed up, his ideas appealed to the greedy and imperialists and today we see the fruits of Reagan in corporate greed and an illegal war.
     
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    The Great War was World War I (FDR was not president)--but I know what you mean. I agree the FDR is up their also, for the crap he had to deal with in office. Those Roosevelts are BAD A! We should look for a descendant.
     
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    Figures you would pick all the ones with socialist leanings. How about some respect for those who felt Americans should be able to stand for themselves and not suck off the government tit for their well being?
     
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    Y'know, I actually agree that FDR was one of the best. I don't agree with socialism, but you have to put FDR in context with his time. We were in a world-wide depression. He had to pull us out of it. I think he did it the best way he knew how, and the best way it could be done in the amount if time it was.

    However, some of the socialist programs that still linger from that time have hurt us. They created a couple of generations of people and their descendents who have this mentality that they are entitled instead of having to make their own way. You see some on these message boards. The government should be mollycoddling anyone with a cut or scrape ... well so long as they support thise programs.

    I just think given the circumstances he was, he did the right and only thing he could. I also think programs like social security are a antiquated and should be put out of their misery.
     
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    He would have been a great president if he would have ripped the throat out of the soviet union. Instead, he is just an opportunistic Jew-tool.
     
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    Who? Roosevelt? We don't really know WHAT he would have done. He died before WW II ended. Truman had the reins. That he was willing to not confront Stalin while Stalin was keeping Hitler busy on one flank is just sound strategy. The USSR really DID take a BIG brunt of the war.

    Besides, Churchill was talking out his butt. The Euro-Allies faced the same thing Hitler did ... Russia is a LOT bigger than people think. The expanse alone is too much.

    We'd have had to nuke them. No one had a large enough army to tackle and occupy Russia at the time.
     
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    No one needed to occupy the country, just get rid of all the communist leaders. There was a reason the commie cocksucks had orders, and routinely performed them, for shooting citizens who would not fight for the soviets. It's also why the Nazis found it very easy to get recruits in already conquered parts of the USSR. They knew who the real evil was, and it wasn't Hitler.

    Now the dumb fuck antics of FDR not only damned eastern europe to hell for decades, but it forced us into the coldwar. Add up the fucking dollars we could have spent on something usefel instead of enough nukes to blow out fucking planet up 20 times over.
     
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    I don't disagree that Stalin and the Soviet machine were an "evil." The in no way lessens the fact that Hitler and the 3rd Reich were every bit as much so.

    I'm still not sure what "antics" you are blaming on FDR. He made a strategically sound decision to support the Soviet Union. They were keeping Hitler otherwise occupied while we did our usual piddling around of building up our forces. Had Hitler only to concentrate on England and let his damned generals run the war, he could easily have taken it. That leaves us without a stationary aircraft carrier and supply depot which was the UK.

    FDR also had a two-front war to deal with.

    And don't kid yourself. Whoever is our President at the time might be a dolt, and our government may suck at any one given time, but you step foot on US soil as an invading army and YOU are the enemy. Perhaps a few of those that took the short end of the stick from the Soviets would turn, but by and large, most would fight on the side of their nation.
     
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    It appears nomdeplume has been reading Pat Buchanan. What do you think of Israel, Nom?
     
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    not to mention that Roosevelt let how many millions of Jews die while sitting around?

    I agree it was a strategic thing, but "jew tool"? only to an antisemite, since Roosevelt wouldn't have thought twice about letting the rest die if it suited his interests. (and yes, I know I'm preaching to the choir).
     

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