Roosevelt....the Un-Reagan

[IcebergSlim]

And now for the education that government schooling skipped.

Franklin Roosevelt rejected the Constitution, accepted communism and revered the collective...the true American President, Ronald Reagan, venerated the Constitution, stood for the individual and despised Communism.


1. It was under Franklin Roosevelt that America underwent a sea change, ending the guidance of the Founders, the Constitution, and the emphasis on capitalism in favor of socialism.
It behooves those who wish to understand what happened to analyze what happened....and why.



What Did He Know, and When Did He Know It?

It was through Franklin Roosevelt's tireless efforts that communism found a home in the United States. They don't teach that in government school.
Did FDR know he was providing a red carpet for communism, pun intended, or was he ignorant of the malevolence he was endorsing?



3.Just the other day, I watched journalists asking a Republican presidential contender specific and detailed questions about geo-politics...trying to see what he knew, and how good he would be at applying same to predicting future situations.
Apply same to FDR: was Roosevelt aware of the homicidal pathology of communism, and if so, shouldn't he have put off recognition of the Soviet empire until he perceived a change in those policies?


Let's see FDR's geopolitical education:
Here is his timeline of political education..

Nov 8, 1910 Franklin Roosevelt is elected to the New York State Senate.

In 1913, Franklin Roosevelt was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy under President Woodrow Wilson.

1920 Franklin Roosevelt ran as the Democratic candidate for Vice-President, alongside James M. Cox. The ticket is defeated by Republicans Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge.

Nov 6, 1928 Franklin Roosevelt is elected governor of New York.

Following the very last brokered election that produced a winning candidate, Nov 8, 1932 Franklin Roosevelt defeated Herbert Hoover to become the 32nd President of the United States, receiving 57.4% of the popular vote.

On November 16, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt ended almost 16 years of American non-recognition of the Soviet Union following a series of negotiations in Washington, D.C. with the Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Maxim Litvinov.



So....here was a professional politician who spent a quarter century learning his craft, before he embraced the Soviet Union in what any astute observer of the world scene knew was a fraudulent agreement.

He had that quarter century to consider, refine, and make judgments about the world, about right and wrong, good and evil.....
It was his considered opinion that all previous Presidents and Secretaries of State were wrong in refusing to embrace the blood-drenched Bolsheviks.


What Did He Know, and When Did He Know It?

Were you and your kin homeschooled?

 

[PoliticalChic]

For context....which of Queen Ann's dozen best sellers have you read?

If none....the term 'irony' may creep back to bite you.

As a socialist I'm not in the habit of sponsoring book sales of right wing hatemongers. I believe I already told you that. But I've seen enough of her quotes to be familiar with her way of "reasoning".

Besides that, you still haven't answered my question. If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?

1. So....we have ascertained that you are expert at the government schooling technique of slandering those about whom you have no knowledge....if they don't toe the Liberals line.

a. As you have no knowledge of same, let me verify for you that all of her books are scholarly and perfectly documented.


2. "...you still haven't answered my question. If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?"
Let me answer the question with a question:

Did the nascent United States carry on a genocide against it's citizens, as the Soviet Union did?


September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933,all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.
Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained,starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.


'Lazar Kaganovich (together with Vyacheslav Molotov) participated with the All-Ukrainian Party Conference of 1930 and were given the task of implementation of the collectivization policy that caused a catastrophic 1932–33 famine known as the Holodomor. He also personally oversaw grain confiscations during the same time periods.

'Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region,Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union. As an emissary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Kaganovich traveled to Ukraine, the central regions of the USSR, the Northern Caucasus, and Siberia demanding the acceleration of collectivization and repressions against the Kulaks, who were generally blamed for the slow progress of collectivization.'
Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



Did I just prove you to be a moron, or what????

 

[IcebergSlim]

Why is it that you Liberals/socialists can never author a substantive post?


Could be this?
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"
Coulter

You complain about lack of substance and then you quote Ann Coulter......

Too bad you conservative cultists don't do irony

For context....which of Queen Ann's dozen best sellers have you read?

If none....the term 'irony' may creep back to bite you.

Queen Ann?
Daughter of Federal employee.
Product of Public High School and public State Law School?

 

[IcebergSlim]

For context....which of Queen Ann's dozen best sellers have you read?

If none....the term 'irony' may creep back to bite you.

As a socialist I'm not in the habit of sponsoring book sales of right wing hatemongers. I believe I already told you that. But I've seen enough of her quotes to be familiar with her way of "reasoning".

Besides that, you still haven't answered my question. If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?

1. So....we have ascertained that you are expert at the government schooling technique of slandering those about whom you have no knowledge....if they don't toe the Liberals line.

a. As you have no knowledge of same, let me verify for you that all of her books are scholarly and perfectly documented.


2. "...you still haven't answered my question. If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?"
Let me answer the question with a question:

Did the nascent United States carry on a genocide against it's citizens, as the Soviet Union did?


September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933,all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.
Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained,starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.


'Lazar Kaganovich (together with Vyacheslav Molotov) participated with the All-Ukrainian Party Conference of 1930 and were given the task of implementation of the collectivization policy that caused a catastrophic 1932–33 famine known as the Holodomor. He also personally oversaw grain confiscations during the same time periods.

'Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region,Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union. As an emissary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Kaganovich traveled to Ukraine, the central regions of the USSR, the Northern Caucasus, and Siberia demanding the acceleration of collectivization and repressions against the Kulaks, who were generally blamed for the slow progress of collectivization.'
Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



Did I just prove you to be a moron, or what????

, let me verify for you that all of her books are scholarly and perfectly documented.


And you are?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Shall I wait for your response to the perfectly constructed and documented post #14....of shall I go on with a long and fulfilling life?

You fail due to not understanding the reasons for holding and folding, which FDR understood. He spent the mid and late 1930's motivating and funding small programs that allowed the MIC to develope new and modern aircraft and ships, including a new class of aircraft carrier. By 1940 the private industry was ready to begin producing the weapons that would win the coming war.
Producing weapons that were already obsolete would have been very studpid.

Liar.

Roosevelt was clueless about the impending conflict, and certainly about any matters dealing with either business, or anything military.


As I did with the leftwinger, watch me prove......prove with documentation....what I say.

1. FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone. To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country". FDR had underestimated the Japanese and the Pearl Harbor attack devastated the American Navy and exposed the president's incompetence. See
   "General of the Army: George C. Marshall, Soldier and Statesman,"
   By Ed Cray, p. 155

2. " In 1939, the US had the 21st largest army in the world, with only around 250,000 officers and men. This put US Army strength right behind Bulgaria." How did Roosevelt prepare for the inevitable entry into the war



Did I just rip one who is one a new one?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why is it that you Liberals/socialists can never author a substantive post?


Could be this?
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"
Coulter

You complain about lack of substance and then you quote Ann Coulter......

Too bad you conservative cultists don't do irony

For context....which of Queen Ann's dozen best sellers have you read?

If none....the term 'irony' may creep back to bite you.

Queen Ann?
Daughter of Federal employee.
Product of Public High School and public State Law School?

Please, document your expertise: which of Queen Ann's dozen scholarly best sellers have you read?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Did I just prove you to be a moron, or what????

No, you just proved that you can't answer the question

If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?

 

[PoliticalChic]

And now for the education that government schooling skipped.

Franklin Roosevelt rejected the Constitution, accepted communism and revered the collective...the true American President, Ronald Reagan, venerated the Constitution, stood for the individual and despised Communism.


1. It was under Franklin Roosevelt that America underwent a sea change, ending the guidance of the Founders, the Constitution, and the emphasis on capitalism in favor of socialism.
It behooves those who wish to understand what happened to analyze what happened....and why.



What Did He Know, and When Did He Know It?

It was through Franklin Roosevelt's tireless efforts that communism found a home in the United States. They don't teach that in government school.
Did FDR know he was providing a red carpet for communism, pun intended, or was he ignorant of the malevolence he was endorsing?



3.Just the other day, I watched journalists asking a Republican presidential contender specific and detailed questions about geo-politics...trying to see what he knew, and how good he would be at applying same to predicting future situations.
Apply same to FDR: was Roosevelt aware of the homicidal pathology of communism, and if so, shouldn't he have put off recognition of the Soviet empire until he perceived a change in those policies?


Let's see FDR's geopolitical education:
Here is his timeline of political education..

Nov 8, 1910 Franklin Roosevelt is elected to the New York State Senate.

In 1913, Franklin Roosevelt was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy under President Woodrow Wilson.

1920 Franklin Roosevelt ran as the Democratic candidate for Vice-President, alongside James M. Cox. The ticket is defeated by Republicans Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge.

Nov 6, 1928 Franklin Roosevelt is elected governor of New York.

Following the very last brokered election that produced a winning candidate, Nov 8, 1932 Franklin Roosevelt defeated Herbert Hoover to become the 32nd President of the United States, receiving 57.4% of the popular vote.

On November 16, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt ended almost 16 years of American non-recognition of the Soviet Union following a series of negotiations in Washington, D.C. with the Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Maxim Litvinov.



So....here was a professional politician who spent a quarter century learning his craft, before he embraced the Soviet Union in what any astute observer of the world scene knew was a fraudulent agreement.

He had that quarter century to consider, refine, and make judgments about the world, about right and wrong, good and evil.....
It was his considered opinion that all previous Presidents and Secretaries of State were wrong in refusing to embrace the blood-drenched Bolsheviks.


What Did He Know, and When Did He Know It?

Were you and your kin homeschooled?

Please don't hesitate to ask to compare your education with mine.

Hint...your alma mater, the Robert Fiance School of Cosmetology, is considered a joke at mine.


And...mine has the best fight song in the nation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

For context....which of Queen Ann's dozen best sellers have you read?

If none....the term 'irony' may creep back to bite you.

As a socialist I'm not in the habit of sponsoring book sales of right wing hatemongers. I believe I already told you that. But I've seen enough of her quotes to be familiar with her way of "reasoning".

Besides that, you still haven't answered my question. If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?

1. So....we have ascertained that you are expert at the government schooling technique of slandering those about whom you have no knowledge....if they don't toe the Liberals line.

a. As you have no knowledge of same, let me verify for you that all of her books are scholarly and perfectly documented.


2. "...you still haven't answered my question. If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?"
Let me answer the question with a question:

Did the nascent United States carry on a genocide against it's citizens, as the Soviet Union did?


September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933,all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.
Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained,starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.


'Lazar Kaganovich (together with Vyacheslav Molotov) participated with the All-Ukrainian Party Conference of 1930 and were given the task of implementation of the collectivization policy that caused a catastrophic 1932–33 famine known as the Holodomor. He also personally oversaw grain confiscations during the same time periods.

'Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region,Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union. As an emissary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Kaganovich traveled to Ukraine, the central regions of the USSR, the Northern Caucasus, and Siberia demanding the acceleration of collectivization and repressions against the Kulaks, who were generally blamed for the slow progress of collectivization.'
Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia



Did I just prove you to be a moron, or what????

, let me verify for you that all of her books are scholarly and perfectly documented.


And you are?

Sure....simply compare my posts to yours.
That would be like comparing a bamboo hut to the Palace at Versailles.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did I just prove you to be a moron, or what????

No, you just proved that you can't answer the question

If it was evil of FDR to recognize the Sovjet Union, were the British also evil when they recognized the US?

Don't you want to answer the pertinent query?

Did the nascent United States carry on a genocide against it's citizens, as the Soviet Union did?


September 11, 1932, Stalin wrote to his assistant, 'We must take steps so we do not lose the Ukraine.' So, 1932-1933,all food supplies in the Ukraine were confiscated.
Those who tried to leave were shot, those who remained,starved to death. Men, women, children. They died tortuously slowly.
NKVD squads collected the dead. They received 200 grams of bread for every dead body they delivered; often they didn't wait until the victim was dead.


'Lazar Kaganovich (together with Vyacheslav Molotov) participated with the All-Ukrainian Party Conference of 1930 and were given the task of implementation of thecollectivization policy that caused a catastrophic 1932–33 famine known as theHolodomor. He also personally oversaw grain confiscations during the same time periods.

'Similar policies also inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan, the Kuban region,Crimea, the lower Volga region, and other parts of the Soviet Union. As an emissary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Kaganovich traveled to Ukraine, the central regions of the USSR, the NorthernCaucasus, and Siberia demanding the acceleration of collectivization and repressions against the Kulaks, who were generally blamed for the slow progress of collectivization.'
Lazar Kaganovich - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[MisterBeale]

How Reagan fought WWII

How FDR fought WWII

WWII brought Roosevelt to his knees.....ideologically.

As he was a failure as a businessman, he hated those who were successful...and made that well known.

But the winds of war caused Roosevelt to come begging to private industry to pull his bacon out of the fire.


1. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”

3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times….Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940





Now....see how it's done? My posts actually show education and knowledge.....unlike you Liberals who show nothing but mind-numbed devotion to demagogues.

Give up yet?

My cut and pastes are kicking the shit out of your cut and pastes

<hint: I don't read the crap you post and neither does anyone else....want more pictures?>

Yeah, here's a picture for ya. . .

 

[PoliticalChic]

How Reagan fought WWII

How FDR fought WWII

WWII brought Roosevelt to his knees.....ideologically.

As he was a failure as a businessman, he hated those who were successful...and made that well known.

But the winds of war caused Roosevelt to come begging to private industry to pull his bacon out of the fire.


1. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”

3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times….Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940





Now....see how it's done? My posts actually show education and knowledge.....unlike you Liberals who show nothing but mind-numbed devotion to demagogues.

Give up yet?

My cut and pastes are kicking the shit out of your cut and pastes

<hint: I don't read the crap you post and neither does anyone else....want more pictures?>

Yeah, here's a picture for ya. . .

I wonder how many know that FDR actually wiretapped his wife Eleanor....

See "FDR Goes to War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, and Restricted Civil Liberties..." by Folsom and Folsom.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And now for the education that government schooling skipped.

Franklin Roosevelt rejected the Constitution, accepted communism and revered the collective...the true American President, Ronald Reagan, venerated the Constitution, stood for the individual and despised Communism.


1. It was under Franklin Roosevelt that America underwent a sea change, ending the guidance of the Founders, the Constitution, and the emphasis on capitalism in favor of socialism.
It behooves those who wish to understand what happened to analyze what happened....and why.



What Did He Know, and When Did He Know It?

It was through Franklin Roosevelt's tireless efforts that communism found a home in the United States. They don't teach that in government school.
Did FDR know he was providing a red carpet for communism, pun intended, or was he ignorant of the malevolence he was endorsing?



3.Just the other day, I watched journalists asking a Republican presidential contender specific and detailed questions about geo-politics...trying to see what he knew, and how good he would be at applying same to predicting future situations.
Apply same to FDR: was Roosevelt aware of the homicidal pathology of communism, and if so, shouldn't he have put off recognition of the Soviet empire until he perceived a change in those policies?


Let's see FDR's geopolitical education:
Here is his timeline of political education..

Nov 8, 1910 Franklin Roosevelt is elected to the New York State Senate.

In 1913, Franklin Roosevelt was appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy under President Woodrow Wilson.

1920 Franklin Roosevelt ran as the Democratic candidate for Vice-President, alongside James M. Cox. The ticket is defeated by Republicans Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge.

Nov 6, 1928 Franklin Roosevelt is elected governor of New York.

Following the very last brokered election that produced a winning candidate, Nov 8, 1932 Franklin Roosevelt defeated Herbert Hoover to become the 32nd President of the United States, receiving 57.4% of the popular vote.

On November 16, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt ended almost 16 years of American non-recognition of the Soviet Union following a series of negotiations in Washington, D.C. with the Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Maxim Litvinov.



So....here was a professional politician who spent a quarter century learning his craft, before he embraced the Soviet Union in what any astute observer of the world scene knew was a fraudulent agreement.

He had that quarter century to consider, refine, and make judgments about the world, about right and wrong, good and evil.....
It was his considered opinion that all previous Presidents and Secretaries of State were wrong in refusing to embrace the blood-drenched Bolsheviks.


What Did He Know, and When Did He Know It?

Were you and your kin homeschooled?

Gee, slim.....as soon as I suggested comparing educations, you became awfully quiet....

 

[PoliticalChic]

How Reagan fought WWII

How FDR fought WWII

WWII brought Roosevelt to his knees.....ideologically.

As he was a failure as a businessman, he hated those who were successful...and made that well known.

But the winds of war caused Roosevelt to come begging to private industry to pull his bacon out of the fire.


1. For almost eight years, Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders had been his favorite scapegoats for explaining why the Great Depression was persisting. The premise of his New Deal, after all was that businessmen had failed and that government should regulate, plan and direct much of the American economy to break the hold of the Great Depression.”

2. On May 16, 1940, Roosevelt had addressed Congress and asked for more than a billion dollars for defense, with a commitment for fifty thousand military aircraft. He knew, also, that he needed the good will of business to win the war: no longer would he call them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”

3. On May 26, 1940 his Fireside Chat signaled a new relationship with business: he would insure their profits, and assuage their fears that he would nationalize their factories.
a. “…we are calling upon the resources, the efficiency and the ingenuity of the American manufacturers of war material of all kinds -- airplanes and tanks and guns and ships, and all the hundreds of products that go into this material. The Government of the United States itself manufactures few of the implements of war. Private industry will continue to be the source of most of this material, and private industry will have to be speeded up to produce it at the rate and efficiency called for by the needs of the times….Private industry will have the responsibility of providing the best, speediest and most efficient mass production of which it is capable.” On National Defense - May 26, 1940





Now....see how it's done? My posts actually show education and knowledge.....unlike you Liberals who show nothing but mind-numbed devotion to demagogues.

Give up yet?

My cut and pastes are kicking the shit out of your cut and pastes

<hint: I don't read the crap you post and neither does anyone else....want more pictures?>

Do you really imagine that folks don't recognize what a liar you are?

Really?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Did the nascent United States carry on a genocide against it's citizens, as the Soviet Union did?

And I thought you were a history expert...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did the nascent United States carry on a genocide against it's citizens, as the Soviet Union did?

And I thought you were a history expert...

Why would you conflate 'genocide' with pictures of American Indians?


And why are you still running away from the way I shredded your attempt to compare the young American nation with the blood-drenched Bolsheviks embraced by Roosevelt?


You're simply a fraud, aren't you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The apologists, seeking a basis for the Roosevelt hagiography, cling by their fingernail to their fables, but ignore far more significant facts.

The Leftists were enamored with death and oppression.


5. George Bernard Shaw met with Stalin,as well. He returned, and wrote, “ We cannot afford to give ourselves moral airs when our most enterprising neighbors,the Soviet Union, humanely and judiciously liquidatesa handful of exploiters and speculators to make the world safe for honest men.”

Now, lest one thinks this was said sarcastically, Lady Aster and others who were present, and took notes, from the meeting, wrote thatthat was exactly and precisely what Stalin had said. He parroted the exact line that Stalin had given him!
Kengor, Op.Cit.


a. When he returned from the Soviet Union,Shaw backed up every lie that Walter Duranty reported. He testified that there was not, and never could be, a food shortage in the USSR.
Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,” p.11



Folks who knew the facts, yet ignored same included George Bernard Shaw......and Franklin Roosevelt.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Why would you conflate 'genocide' with pictures of American Indians?


And why are you still running away from the way I shredded your attempt to compare the young American nation with the blood-drenched Bolsheviks embraced by Roosevelt?


You're simply a fraud, aren't you.

Nah, the fraud would be you

Do you seriously not know what happened to the Indians? Or can't the word genocide be used in connection with your beloved, exceptional, capitalistic founding fathers?

Doesn't Queen Anne have something to say about it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why would you conflate 'genocide' with pictures of American Indians?


And why are you still running away from the way I shredded your attempt to compare the young American nation with the blood-drenched Bolsheviks embraced by Roosevelt?


You're simply a fraud, aren't you.

Nah, the fraud would be you

Do you seriously not know what happened to the Indians? Or can't the word genocide be used in connection with your beloved, exceptional, capitalistic founding fathers?

Doesn't Queen Anne have something to say about it?

So THAT'S why you drop by! For an education!

The claim of 'genocide' is the Left's disreputable attempt to attack whites, and all Americans.

Take notes:

1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease.There is the Leftist/Liberal view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.

It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans


2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”

No such thing happened.


3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923,Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled "Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide?" in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".



4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20thCentury, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.



The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

And....the "genocide" by American Indians in giving the world syphilis.

Go ahead.....the plague began in Egypt....so you'll have to claim it was an Arab genocide.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. "Some historians consider [Walter] Duranty's reports from Moscow to be crucial in the decision taken by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to grant the Soviet Union diplomatic recognition in 1933.[36]Bolshevik Karl Radek said that was indeed the case.[4]

British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge (who went hopefully to live in the New Civilization in 1932, but soon became disillusioned) said of Duranty that he "always enjoyed his company; there was something vigorous, vivacious, preposterous, about his unscrupulousness which made his persistent lying somehow absorbing."[37] Muggeridge characterised Duranty as "the greatest liar of any journalist I have met in 50 years of journalism."[38]Others have characterized Duranty as "the number oneUseful Idiotfor Lenin first, and later for Stalin."[39] Denial of the Holodomor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. "Almost single-handedly did Duranty aid and abet one of the world's most prolific mass murderers, knowing all the while what was going on, but refraining from saying precisely what he knew to be true. He had swallowed the ends-justifies-the-means-argument hook, line and sinker. Duranty loved to repeat, when Stalin's atrocities were brought to light, "you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs." Those "eggs" were the heads of men, women and children, and those "few" were merely tens of millions." Stalin's apologist : Walter Duranty, the New York Times man in Moscow.


And this was the source of FDR's 'knowledge'???

Really???
This could apply equally to Duranty and Roosevelt: "...aid and abet one of the world's most prolific mass murderers, knowing all the while what was going on, but refraining from saying precisely what he knew to be true."



After FDR was a quarter century as a professional politician???


The 'brilliant' Franklin Delano Roosevelt.....shouldn't he have known better?