Ronald Reagan - Prophet

[Moonglow]

yes, Ronny Raygun did it all by himself.

 

[Moonglow]

Why Ronny was such a gallant soldier in WWII, he beat Hitler with one arm behind his back.

 

[regent]

The prophet carried his prophecies around on three by five cards and would go over them on occassion. Reagan was not the best actor in the role of president but I admit he was not bad. I'd give Reagan a B for his his presidential acting and a D+ for his real presidency. I read a few books on the fall of the USSR and Reagan was barely mentioned, Gorby seems to have been the star of the whole USSR downfall. I attribute this whole financial mess were in at the moment as started by Reagan and his trickle down.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtYdjbpBk6A]Reagan at Brandenburg Gate - "tear down this wall" - YouTube[/ame]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The prophet carried his prophecies around on three by five cards and would go over them on occassion. Reagan was not the best actor in the role of president but I admit he was not bad. I'd give Reagan a B for his his presidential acting and a D+ for his real presidency. I read a few books on the fall of the USSR and Reagan was barely mentioned, Gorby seems to have been the star of the whole USSR downfall. I attribute this whole financial mess were in at the moment as started by Reagan and his trickle down.

I think you'll have a great life living in public housing, eating cat food and dialing escort services on your Obamaphone

 

[S.J.]

The prophet carried his prophecies around on three by five cards and would go over them on occassion. Reagan was not the best actor in the role of president but I admit he was not bad. I'd give Reagan a B for his his presidential acting and a D+ for his real presidency. I read a few books on the fall of the USSR and Reagan was barely mentioned, Gorby seems to have been the star of the whole USSR downfall. I attribute this whole financial mess were in at the moment as started by Reagan and his trickle down.

Your ignorance of facts and history is truly astounding.

 

[Lakhota]

Ronald Reagan's 30-Year Time Bombs

THE RONALD REAGAN MYTH . . . The Progressive Review

How Republicans created the myth of Ronald Reagan - Salon.com

10 Things Conservatives Don't Want You To Know About Ronald Reagan | ThinkProgress

 

[S.J.]

He still holds the record for electoral landslides. Kind of hard to explain that away, huh libs?

 

[regent]

The prophet carried his prophecies around on three by five cards and would go over them on occassion. Reagan was not the best actor in the role of president but I admit he was not bad. I'd give Reagan a B for his his presidential acting and a D+ for his real presidency. I read a few books on the fall of the USSR and Reagan was barely mentioned, Gorby seems to have been the star of the whole USSR downfall. I attribute this whole financial mess were in at the moment as started by Reagan and his trickle down.

I think you'll have a great life living in public housing, eating cat food and dialing escort services on your Obamaphone

I have quite a good life. My day starts about noon, the chauffer brings the Lincoln around and we go to the liquor store where I trade my food stamps for booze, good booze, mind you, not that swill, Republicans drink. That done we go to the race track and I cash some of my welfare checks and play the races. Win lose or draw, makes no never mind, plenty more where that came from, eh?
Then a posh restaurant where I meet other welfare people and courses are offered in how to beat the system and discussion groups on why Republicans work so hard creating those things called jobs.
But I have to stop, the teacher's union is just announcing the closing of another school and instead of the lottery, we play, Unions-Close-A-School.

 

[S.J.]

yes, Ronny Raygun did it all by himself.

Actually, he DID do it all by himself. I don't know if you were around then, or paying attention if you were, but the Democrats fought Reagan at every turn. His popularity and effectiveness made the liberals crazy, and their efforts to make him fail drove them to do some very unpatriotic things (like side with the Soviets in arms negotiations). I love how the Dems now try to claim that the defeat of the Soviet empire was a bi-partisan effort. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The "American" left hates Reagan for defeating Soviet Communism.

He called them the Evil empire

He said they were headed for the ash heap of history

He had faith that the Soviet people wanted better than what the government could give them

His main foreign policy goal was the collapse of Soviet hegemony and the bring the USSR down with it

And he did it.

America's Great 20th Century president

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Ronald Reagan - The last "real" President of The United States.

The Real Reagan Legacy

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[Mr. Shaman]

The "American" left hates Reagan for defeating Soviet Communism.

.....But, he was always working with.....​

...a broken compass.​

 

[regent]

yes, Ronny Raygun did it all by himself.

Actually, he DID do it all by himself. I don't know if you were around then, or paying attention if you were, but the Democrats fought Reagan at every turn. His popularity and effectiveness made the liberals crazy, and their efforts to make him fail drove them to do some very unpatriotic things (like side with the Soviets in arms negotiations). I love how the Dems now try to claim that the defeat of the Soviet empire was a bi-partisan effort. Nothing could be further from the truth.

It wasn't a bipartisan effort it was a Gorby effort, aided by others, but if it happened when Reagan was president who is to blame him for taking credit?

 

[S.J.]

yes, Ronny Raygun did it all by himself.

Actually, he DID do it all by himself. I don't know if you were around then, or paying attention if you were, but the Democrats fought Reagan at every turn. His popularity and effectiveness made the liberals crazy, and their efforts to make him fail drove them to do some very unpatriotic things (like side with the Soviets in arms negotiations). I love how the Dems now try to claim that the defeat of the Soviet empire was a bi-partisan effort. Nothing could be further from the truth.

It wasn't a bipartisan effort it was a Gorby effort, aided by others, but if it happened when Reagan was president who is to blame him for taking credit?

Really??? Then why did "Gorby" reject every verifiable arms control agreement Reagan proposed up until the 84 election? "Gorby" was a KGB thug, and wasn't the least bit interested in arms control (except for us). He only agreed to it after they ran out of money trying to keep up with us. He saw the writing on the wall when Reagan won re-election in the biggest electoral landslide in history. I don't know where you're getting your history but you're WAY OFF.

 

[regent]

Actually, he DID do it all by himself. I don't know if you were around then, or paying attention if you were, but the Democrats fought Reagan at every turn. His popularity and effectiveness made the liberals crazy, and their efforts to make him fail drove them to do some very unpatriotic things (like side with the Soviets in arms negotiations). I love how the Dems now try to claim that the defeat of the Soviet empire was a bi-partisan effort. Nothing could be further from the truth.

It wasn't a bipartisan effort it was a Gorby effort, aided by others, but if it happened when Reagan was president who is to blame him for taking credit?

Really??? Then why did "Gorby" reject every verifiable arms control agreement Reagan proposed up until the 84 election? "Gorby" was a KGB thug, and wasn't the least bit interested in arms control (except for us). He only agreed to it after they ran out of money trying to keep up with us. He saw the writing on the wall when Reagan won re-election in the biggest electoral landslide in history. I don't know where you're getting your history but you're WAY OFF.

As John Gaddis wrote, "...a fourth element in the Reagan strategy soon emerged, which was to acknowledge Mikhail Gorbachev as a new kind of Soviet leader whose chief priority was internal reform and with whom one could in the realm of external affairs find common interests."
That was the beginning of the end of the Cold War, Reagan's seeing that Gorbachev was interested in reforming the USSR not in continuing the Cold War.

 

[HUGGY]

I was reading this opinion article:

Ronald Reagan's warning on progressive taxes - Conservative News

And it put me onto this speech by Ronald Reagan, given in 1961 while Reagan was still an actor:

Encroaching Control - Reagan Speeches

It is genuinely fascinating how Mr. Reagan, using only common sense and logic (one presumes, at least, that he was not a prophet in the true sense, and delivering directives straight from the Almighty, although I could be wrong about that), so accurately predicted what came to pass in our country. Leftists today are so busy framing the arguments as though the current state of things has ALWAYS pertained that most people forget that there was once an argument about implementing the programs the left takes for granted now as the basis for the NEW programs they want. And if people don't remember the argument, then they obviously don't remember that the left was WRONG.

That's always the problem with arguing with the left: their attention span is so damned short that by the time they've been proven wrong, they've conveniently forgotten that the debate was even happening.

“Not too long ago, Norman Thomas, six times a candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, commented that ‘the American people would never knowingly vote for socialism but that under the name of liberalism, they would adopt every fragment of the socialist program.’”

“Traditionally, one of the easiest first steps in imposing socialism on a people has been government-paid medicine. It is the easiest to present as a humanitarian project. No one wants to oppose care for the sick.”

Mind you, this was four years before Medicare was implemented. (Yes, I know, you lefties thought Medicare was established with the signing of the Constitution, but it actually wasn't.)

“It is now proposed that all people of Social Security age be given government paid medical and hospital care,” said Reagan. “Once again, emergency is invoked, and we are given a picture of millions of senior citizens desperately needing medical care and unable to finance it. In all the emotional presentation, the backers of this program seem strangely reluctant to face the facts.”

“As near as can be determined,” he said, “less than 10 percent of our senior citizens require aid in meeting their medical needs.”

Reagan pointed out that this 10% of senior citizens was being used to force ALL seniors into a compulsory healthcare program, whether they needed - or wanted - it or not.

“Why? Well, ex-Congressman (Aime) Forand provides the answer. He says, ‘If we can only break through and get our foot in the door, then we can expand the program after that.’”

As we know now, that's exactly what happened. Medicare became the law of the land, with leftists pooh-poohing warnings like Reagan's as "hyperbole". And as we also know, Reagan and the other naysayers were correct, and the leftists were WRONG: senior citizens did NOT get to keep their health insurance if they already had it. And now, here we are with Obamacare, and it's the same damned argument all over again, and the left has blissfully forgotten that they already used this arguments before, were WRONG then, and will be wrong this time.

Reagan applied the same prophesying to Social Security (No, leftists, Social Security has NOT been the natural order of things since Cro-Magnon Man), predicting that the program would grow and grow and become so monstrous that eventually, younger Americans would end up being taxed just to cover its deficits, with no hope of EVER seeing any return on that money themselves. Sound familiar to anyone else?

While he was at it, Reagan took a prophetic swipe at the progressive tax, as well, pointing out that there were already handpicked leftist economists attempting to redefine as "loopholes" legitimate deductions such as property taxes and charitable deductions. In 1961, that redefinition was considered preposterous. Now, in 2012, we have a President poised to make it cold, hard reality.

Ronnie was so out of it in the latter part of his presidency he couldn't have "predicted" what he had for breakfast.

 

[jillian]

you know what's really funny about this thread... they call the president 'messiah' because they pretend in their warped little minds that just voting for him over their nut cases indicates that we've somehow idealized him.

but cesspit does a thread that proves they're just projecting



lol..

too funny.

 

[Plasmaball]

Dude the guy is dead, let it go already.
You people complain about talking about Bush and yet well drop to your knees and open your mouth at the first thought of Reagan jizz.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Reagan spanked Gorby and the USSR so badly all the American Left has is insults.

Good Job, Ronny!