Ron Paul's influence going forward

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I happened upon this old article from 2008.

McCain in talks with Ron Paul for backing - Washington Times

It shows that the GOP nominee even back in 2008, when Paul had less than half of the support he has now in 2012, knew that he needed Ron Paul and his supporters.

So what about now?

Well we know Ron Paul's delegate strategy is doing better than the media is reporting, but we also know that he didn't win the straw poll in any of the states that he needed to win. We can argue about the obvious fraud that occurred in Maine, but it doesn't matter. Romney won, fair or not. Not to mention how Paul underperformed in states like Alaska and North Dakota.

Regardless, the GOP nominee, whether it's Romney or Santorum (My money's still on Romney), is going to need Ron Paul's supporters in November just like McCain did in 2008.

 

[sealybobo]

Ron Paul goes along with McCain and Mitt and Santorum and Bush on most issues. When it comes to privatizing the commons, they are all alike. Free for all. Every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No sense of community. No more am I my brothers keeper. No longer are we all in this together. Now that's freedom.

Consider paying your taxes like buying life insurance. Spreading the risk. If something happens to you, we got you. But if something happens to me, you gotta have my back too. And just because you are richer than most people does not mean you can opt out of the deal, cheap fuckers. You should pay a little more to take care of the poor, cheap fuckers.

You Republicans have lost your way.

 

[uscitizen]

the majority of Ron's supporters will vote republican in November no matter who the nominee is.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Ron Paul goes along with McCain and Mitt and Santorum and Bush on most issues. When it comes to privatizing the commons, they are all alike. Free for all. Every man for himself. Survival of the fittest. No sense of community. No more am I my brothers keeper. No longer are we all in this together. Now that's freedom.

Consider paying your taxes like buying life insurance. Spreading the risk. If something happens to you, we got you. But if something happens to me, you gotta have my back too. And just because you are richer than most people does not mean you can opt out of the deal, cheap fuckers. You should pay a little more to take care of the poor, cheap fuckers.

You Republicans have lost your way.

You just make it up as you go along, don't you?

 

[Liability]

None.

 

[uscitizen]

Nuns vote for Ron?

 

[Liability]

Nuns vote for Ron?

Nope. They don't either.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

the majority of Ron's supporters will vote republican in November no matter who the nominee is.

I don't think the majority is going to vote for the GOP nominee if there's no bone thrown to them. I could see it if Rand were the VP, but I can't see it otherwise. Certainly a good number of them will, but I don't see a majority.

 

[dblack]

Ron Paul goes along with McCain and Mitt and Santorum and Bush on most issues.....

Sealy, seriously. Do some reading or something.

 

[sealybobo]

I happened upon this old article from 2008.

McCain in talks with Ron Paul for backing - Washington Times

It shows that the GOP nominee even back in 2008, when Paul had less than half of the support he has now in 2012, knew that he needed Ron Paul and his supporters.

So what about now?

Well we know Ron Paul's delegate strategy is doing better than the media is reporting, but we also know that he didn't win the straw poll in any of the states that he needed to win. We can argue about the obvious fraud that occurred in Maine, but it doesn't matter. Romney won, fair or not. Not to mention how Paul underperformed in states like Alaska and North Dakota.

Regardless, the GOP nominee, whether it's Romney or Santorum (My money's still on Romney), is going to need Ron Paul's supporters in November just like McCain did in 2008.

They want Ron Paul supporters support just like Obama wants the gays to support him. Ron Paul got 8% compared to Mitt, Newt and Santorum getting 30% each. Ron Paul is not that important. And his supporters will fall in line because Obama's a socialist, right? All your side cares about is that they are fired up in November.

Ron Paul you got your supporters rilled up?

Sarah Palin, do you have your supporters riled up and ready to vote?

Rush backers? Cain? Mormons? Jews? Racists? Anti abortionists? Rich people? How about Michelle Bachmann fans or Rick Perry?

The GOP just want you all to fall in line in November and vote for Romney, like it or not.

I just heard Santorum won Alabama. I hope that makes the GOP process go on a little longer. This is great comedy.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I happened upon this old article from 2008.

McCain in talks with Ron Paul for backing - Washington Times

It shows that the GOP nominee even back in 2008, when Paul had less than half of the support he has now in 2012, knew that he needed Ron Paul and his supporters.

So what about now?

Well we know Ron Paul's delegate strategy is doing better than the media is reporting, but we also know that he didn't win the straw poll in any of the states that he needed to win. We can argue about the obvious fraud that occurred in Maine, but it doesn't matter. Romney won, fair or not. Not to mention how Paul underperformed in states like Alaska and North Dakota.

Regardless, the GOP nominee, whether it's Romney or Santorum (My money's still on Romney), is going to need Ron Paul's supporters in November just like McCain did in 2008.

They want Ron Paul supporters support just like Obama wants the gays to support him. Ron Paul got 8% compared to Mitt, Newt and Santorum getting 30% each. Ron Paul is not that important. And his supporters will fall in line because Obama's a socialist, right? All your side cares about is that they are fired up in November.

Ron Paul you got your supporters rilled up?

Sarah Palin, do you have your supporters riled up and ready to vote?

Rush backers? Cain? Mormons? Jews? Racists? Anti abortionists? Rich people? How about Michelle Bachmann fans or Rick Perry?

The GOP just want you all to fall in line in November and vote for Romney, like it or not.

I just heard Santorum won Alabama. I hope that makes the GOP process go on a little longer. This is great comedy.

No, Obama's a fascist. Just like Bush, Romney, and Santorum.

 

[sealybobo]

Ron Paul goes along with McCain and Mitt and Santorum and Bush on most issues.....

Sealy, seriously. Do some reading or something.

anti abortion, tax breaks to the rich, deregulations, corporate pollution ok with him too, etc. He's a Republican, no?

I know what makes him different. And again, don't try to convince me when you can only convince 8% of Mississippi or Alabama Republicans to take him seriously. Don't you think you would have a better chance with them? Failure!

 

[dblack]

I happened upon this old article from 2008.

McCain in talks with Ron Paul for backing - Washington Times

It shows that the GOP nominee even back in 2008, when Paul had less than half of the support he has now in 2012, knew that he needed Ron Paul and his supporters.

So what about now?

Well we know Ron Paul's delegate strategy is doing better than the media is reporting, but we also know that he didn't win the straw poll in any of the states that he needed to win. We can argue about the obvious fraud that occurred in Maine, but it doesn't matter. Romney won, fair or not. Not to mention how Paul underperformed in states like Alaska and North Dakota.

Regardless, the GOP nominee, whether it's Romney or Santorum (My money's still on Romney), is going to need Ron Paul's supporters in November just like McCain did in 2008.

I'm curious to see what he'll do. I really can't imagine him making a "deal" to offer his support to any of the prospective candidates. I've suspected for some time that he'll pull out of the Republican party altogether and try to make the Libertarian party into a legitimate movement. The notion that Ron Paul supporters will roll over and vote for Romney is wishful thinking. Some of those who have been voting for him might, but the solid ten to fifteen percent, his real supporters, simply aren't going to waste a vote on a Republican that's a virtual clone of Obama.

We'll see what happens I suppose. I'll be very disappointed if he cuts some kind of deal - and it would strike me as very out of character for him. He's building support to pull it away from the Republican party, not to sell it out.

 

[dblack]

Ron Paul goes along with McCain and Mitt and Santorum and Bush on most issues.....

Sealy, seriously. Do some reading or something.

anti abortion, tax breaks to the rich, deregulations, corporate pollution ok with him too, etc. He's a Republican, no?

I know what makes him different. And again, don't try to convince me when you can only convince 8% of Mississippi or Alabama Republicans to take him seriously. Don't you think you would have a better chance with them? Failure!

Sealy, I generally just try to ignore morons on this board, but you are really over the top. Are you just doing some kind of parody?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I happened upon this old article from 2008.

McCain in talks with Ron Paul for backing - Washington Times

It shows that the GOP nominee even back in 2008, when Paul had less than half of the support he has now in 2012, knew that he needed Ron Paul and his supporters.

So what about now?

Well we know Ron Paul's delegate strategy is doing better than the media is reporting, but we also know that he didn't win the straw poll in any of the states that he needed to win. We can argue about the obvious fraud that occurred in Maine, but it doesn't matter. Romney won, fair or not. Not to mention how Paul underperformed in states like Alaska and North Dakota.

Regardless, the GOP nominee, whether it's Romney or Santorum (My money's still on Romney), is going to need Ron Paul's supporters in November just like McCain did in 2008.

I'm curious to see what he'll do. I really can't imagine him making a "deal" to offer his support to any of the prospective candidates. I've suspected for some time that he'll pull out of the Republican party altogether and try to make the Libertarian party into a legitimate movement. The notion that Ron Paul supporters will roll over and vote for Romney is wishful thinking. Some of those who have been voting for him might, but the solid ten to fifteen percent, his real supporters, simply aren't going to waste a vote on a Republican that's a virtual clone of Obama.

We'll see what happens I suppose. I'll be very disappointed if he cuts some kind of deal - and it would strike me as very out of character for him. He's building support to pull it away from the Republican party, not to sell it out.

If he's going to leave the Republican Party what was the point of the last four years? Why bother getting his supporters to go out and get put into important positions within local Republican parties? I don't think it's going to happen.

 

[sealybobo]

I happened upon this old article from 2008.

McCain in talks with Ron Paul for backing - Washington Times

It shows that the GOP nominee even back in 2008, when Paul had less than half of the support he has now in 2012, knew that he needed Ron Paul and his supporters.

So what about now?

Well we know Ron Paul's delegate strategy is doing better than the media is reporting, but we also know that he didn't win the straw poll in any of the states that he needed to win. We can argue about the obvious fraud that occurred in Maine, but it doesn't matter. Romney won, fair or not. Not to mention how Paul underperformed in states like Alaska and North Dakota.

Regardless, the GOP nominee, whether it's Romney or Santorum (My money's still on Romney), is going to need Ron Paul's supporters in November just like McCain did in 2008.

They want Ron Paul supporters support just like Obama wants the gays to support him. Ron Paul got 8% compared to Mitt, Newt and Santorum getting 30% each. Ron Paul is not that important. And his supporters will fall in line because Obama's a socialist, right? All your side cares about is that they are fired up in November.

Ron Paul you got your supporters rilled up?

Sarah Palin, do you have your supporters riled up and ready to vote?

Rush backers? Cain? Mormons? Jews? Racists? Anti abortionists? Rich people? How about Michelle Bachmann fans or Rick Perry?

The GOP just want you all to fall in line in November and vote for Romney, like it or not.

I just heard Santorum won Alabama. I hope that makes the GOP process go on a little longer. This is great comedy.

No, Obama's a fascist. Just like Bush, Romney, and Santorum.

So you Ron Paulers acknowledge the corruption and waste that exists in the Federal Reserve and military industrial complex. You understand Private Bankers own our Federal Reserves and its a scam. Us liberals agree with you Ron Paulers on this. If you would only confront/challange your Republican brothers and sisters as much as you do us, maybe we would get somewhere. But they like the status quo.

But what do you Ron Paulers say about all the other corporate corruption besides the Federal Reserve? How come you understand the bankers control our country but you refuse to admit to any other corporate corruption. What do you think about Citizens United? What about the other robber barons that control our country? The Koch brothers, the Adelsons, the oil speculators gouging us. The healthcare giants gouging us?

How come you Ron Paulers stop short and only call out the bankers that control the federal reserve? Don't you realize they control much more than that?

 

[dblack]

If he's going to leave the Republican Party what was the point of the last four years? Why bother getting his supporters to go out and get put into important positions within local Republican parties? I don't think it's going to happen.

Well, I don't think it's been his goal all along. Since he joined the party he's been trying to change if from within. But that goal won't be served by supporting the same old same old - and I think he's smart enough to know that.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part. But I've taken his announcement that he's not running for Congress again as a sign that he's ready to throw in the towel on the Republicans. I've always had misgivings about his approach of working within one of the major parties. They're too entrenched and too deeply invested in the status quo. I don't see how he can come to any other conclusion.

 

[sealybobo]

Sealy, seriously. Do some reading or something.

anti abortion, tax breaks to the rich, deregulations, corporate pollution ok with him too, etc. He's a Republican, no?

I know what makes him different. And again, don't try to convince me when you can only convince 8% of Mississippi or Alabama Republicans to take him seriously. Don't you think you would have a better chance with them? Failure!

Sealy, I generally just try to ignore morons on this board, but you are really over the top. Are you just doing some kind of parody?

Sorry you hate the reality I represent.

 

[Avatar4321]

Sorry you hate the reality I represent.

And what reality would that be? Bizarro world?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

They want Ron Paul supporters support just like Obama wants the gays to support him. Ron Paul got 8% compared to Mitt, Newt and Santorum getting 30% each. Ron Paul is not that important. And his supporters will fall in line because Obama's a socialist, right? All your side cares about is that they are fired up in November.

Ron Paul you got your supporters rilled up?

Sarah Palin, do you have your supporters riled up and ready to vote?

Rush backers? Cain? Mormons? Jews? Racists? Anti abortionists? Rich people? How about Michelle Bachmann fans or Rick Perry?

The GOP just want you all to fall in line in November and vote for Romney, like it or not.

I just heard Santorum won Alabama. I hope that makes the GOP process go on a little longer. This is great comedy.

No, Obama's a fascist. Just like Bush, Romney, and Santorum.

So you Ron Paulers acknowledge the corruption and waste that exists in the Federal Reserve and military industrial complex. You understand Private Bankers own our Federal Reserves and its a scam. Us liberals agree with you Ron Paulers on this. If you would only confront/challange your Republican brothers and sisters as much as you do us, maybe we would get somewhere. But they like the status quo.

But what do you Ron Paulers say about all the other corporate corruption besides the Federal Reserve? How come you understand the bankers control our country but you refuse to admit to any other corporate corruption. What do you think about Citizens United? What about the other robber barons that control our country? The Koch brothers, the Adelsons, the oil speculators gouging us. The healthcare giants gouging us?

How come you Ron Paulers stop short and only call out the bankers that control the federal reserve? Don't you realize they control much more than that?

You liberals agree with us on the Fed, huh? More like you personally, and a few other liberals agree with us partially on the Fed. If liberals in general agreed with us libertarians on the Fed then something would have been done about the Fed.

As for corporate corruption, no libertarian denies it. We just realize that when it comes to an alliance between big business and big government, big government is always in charge. Without the government your robber barons wouldn't exist.