Ron Paul: "They're Terrorists Because We're Occupiers".

[LibocalypseNow]

You really can't go wrong if you just stick to our Constitution. Maybe our politicians will begin to understand this again at some point. Lets hope so.

 

[jillian]

He's a Libertarian who decided he wanted to win an election, so he switched parties.

He was winning as a Republican, first, wasn't he?

I agree with you that he isn't really a Republican. He's more of a third party kinda politician who simply uses the "(R)" after his name for convenience.

Ron Paul is naive on issues of foreign policy and a hypocrite on issues of governmental property.

He just knows her doesn't want us in the middle east regardless of our national interests. The far right white supremacists and far left terrorist supporters were all on board with tht.

 

[2Parties]

Two districts in TX is not a national election. Primaries in 50 states are national elections. And Paul bombed out in every one of them where he ran.

Dang, I didn't know 2nd or 3rd place out of 8 or more candidates was bombing. Whatever floats your boat I guess...

 

[The Rabbi]

WWII is not a valid example of what Dr. Paul is talking about. That was not an unnecessary foreign intervention. We were attacked at Pearl Harbor and then declared war on the Axis Powers. Defending your country after being attacked is not an unnecessary foreign intervention. War was declared legally and adhered to our Constitution. People often make this mistake of mislabeling what a Foreign Intervention and a legally declared War is. There is a difference. We declared war because we were defending our nation. Btw,not every thing worked out perfectly after WWII. We got rid of the Nazis but then the Communists actually became a bigger threat. It makes you think huh?

I doubt anything would make the RonZombies think.

The Afghan War was a direct result of our being attacked on 9/11. Do the libtards like Paul maintain that our involvement there is also causing hatred?

 

[elvis]

I dont see the word "Federal" in my post. Could you please point it out to me?
Ron Paul is elected by one district in TX. He has bombed out of every other race he has run outside of that district.

No, I did not see the word federal in your post. You incorrectly used the term national, but we don't have a national government. We have a federal government.

Also, he's been elected by two districts in Texas.

Continuing to demonstrate bloody minded stupidity I see.
I used the term correctly. You misunderstood what I wrote, or deliberately misinterpretated it.
Two districts in TX is not a national election. Primaries in 50 states are national elections. And Paul bombed out in every one of them where he ran.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact he wasn't allowed at some of the debates, would it?

 

[The Rabbi]

No, I did not see the word federal in your post. You incorrectly used the term national, but we don't have a national government. We have a federal government.

Also, he's been elected by two districts in Texas.

Continuing to demonstrate bloody minded stupidity I see.
I used the term correctly. You misunderstood what I wrote, or deliberately misinterpretated it.
Two districts in TX is not a national election. Primaries in 50 states are national elections. And Paul bombed out in every one of them where he ran.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact he wasn't allowed at some of the debates, would it?

That probably helped him.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I dont see the word "Federal" in my post. Could you please point it out to me?
Ron Paul is elected by one district in TX. He has bombed out of every other race he has run outside of that district.

No, I did not see the word federal in your post. You incorrectly used the term national, but we don't have a national government. We have a federal government.

Also, he's been elected by two districts in Texas.

Continuing to demonstrate bloody minded stupidity I see.
I used the term correctly. You misunderstood what I wrote, or deliberately misinterpretated it.
Two districts in TX is not a national election. Primaries in 50 states are national elections. And Paul bombed out in every one of them where he ran.

No, two districts in Texas are federal elections, not national elections. We don't have national elections. The President is a federal election as well, though it spans all of the states as opposed to a single district in a state.

 

[The Rabbi]

You really can't go wrong if you just stick to our Constitution. Maybe our politicians will begin to understand this again at some point. Lets hope so.

At what point did politicians stick to our Constitution? Jefferson certainly didn't with the Louisiana Purchase.
Even the Founders understood that the Constitution is not a ball and chain.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

KK, that's interesting. Explain how you don't think the congressional force resolutions fail to meet the constitution's restriction of war declarations to Congress. No trick question: I am curious as to your reasoning.

Congressional resolutions to force simply give the President authority to do whatever they want. A declaration of war lays out the objectives of the war, and removes the authority for war as soon as those objectives are met. We go in, do what we need to do, and get out.

That's one of the many areas where the Constitution fails. There is no specific definition anywhere telling what a declaration of war is. The Constitution pretty much gives government authority to do what it wants, and the only "control" people have over government is voting. The Constitution just set up a democracy, and democracies are horrendous at protecting freedoms.

It would certainly have been better for them to spell out the exact parameters of a declaration of war, but it would be ignored today regardless.

 

[The Rabbi]

No, I did not see the word federal in your post. You incorrectly used the term national, but we don't have a national government. We have a federal government.

Also, he's been elected by two districts in Texas.

Continuing to demonstrate bloody minded stupidity I see.
I used the term correctly. You misunderstood what I wrote, or deliberately misinterpretated it.
Two districts in TX is not a national election. Primaries in 50 states are national elections. And Paul bombed out in every one of them where he ran.

No, two districts in Texas are federal elections, not national elections. We don't have national elections. The President is a federal election as well, though it spans all of the states as opposed to a single district in a state.

So you retract your earlier comment and admit I was right.
Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[2Parties]

It would certainly have been better for them to spell out the exact parameters of a declaration of war, but it would be ignored today regardless.

...so it really wouldn't have been better...

 

[Xenophon]

'Avoid foreign entanglements.'

Sound advice we'd do well to follow.

I'd be happy if the USA didn't have a single base in another country.

'World police' was a stupid FDR idea and should have been shitcanned years ago.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

WWII is not a valid example of what Dr. Paul is talking about. That was not an unnecessary foreign intervention. We were attacked at Pearl Harbor and then declared war on the Axis Powers. Defending your country after being attacked is not an unnecessary foreign intervention. War was declared legally and adhered to our Constitution. People often make this mistake of mislabeling what a Foreign Intervention and a legally declared War is. There is a difference. We declared war because we were defending our nation. Btw,not every thing worked out perfectly after WWII. We got rid of the Nazis but then the Communists actually became a bigger threat. It makes you think huh?

I doubt anything would make the RonZombies think.

The Afghan War was a direct result of our being attacked on 9/11. Do the libtards like Paul maintain that our involvement there is also causing hatred?

Ron Paul supported going into Afghanistan, but yes he realizes that our continued occupation has blowback.

And by "libtards" I assume you mean liberals, which I assume you do not mean in the classical sense, which means big government. But that's a fallacy. It is you and those like you supporting our interventionist foreign policy that gives us the greatest expansion of government. Non-interventionism is the true conservative position.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

If we had declared War properly in Afghanistan,things would have gone much better over there in my opinion. The same goes for Iraq too. These foreign interventions just seem to become so convoluted and go on and on. In the end no one really understands why we're in these entanglements. That's just not a good thing. Stick to the Constitution and you can't go wrong. Hey just my opinion anyway.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Continuing to demonstrate bloody minded stupidity I see.
I used the term correctly. You misunderstood what I wrote, or deliberately misinterpretated it.
Two districts in TX is not a national election. Primaries in 50 states are national elections. And Paul bombed out in every one of them where he ran.

No, two districts in Texas are federal elections, not national elections. We don't have national elections. The President is a federal election as well, though it spans all of the states as opposed to a single district in a state.

So you retract your earlier comment and admit I was right.
Thanks for clearing that up.

Certainly not. You incorrectly stated that he couldn't win a national election, but since there is no such thing as a national election how could anyone win a national election? He has won 11 federal elections, however.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

It would certainly have been better for them to spell out the exact parameters of a declaration of war, but it would be ignored today regardless.

...so it really wouldn't have been better...

Not really.

 

[Xenophon]

If we had declared War properly in Afghanistan,things would have gone much better over there in my opinion. The same goes for Iraq too. These foreign interventions just seem to become so convoluted and go on and on. In the end no one really understands why we're in these entanglements. That's just not a good thing. Stick to the Constitution and you can't go wrong. Hey just my opinion anyway.

Declaring war means total war, these assclowns won't do it, because they know people won't allow drafts and massive destruction.

So they play the 'intervention limited war' game.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Ron Paul is not a Neocon,Liberal,or Socialist. In fact he is the farthest thing from all three. That's why he is despised by so many. Pretty sad stuff.

 

[blu]

WWII is not a valid example of what Dr. Paul is talking about. That was not an unnecessary foreign intervention. We were attacked at Pearl Harbor and then declared war on the Axis Powers. Defending your country after being attacked is not an unnecessary foreign intervention. War was declared legally and adhered to our Constitution. People often make this mistake of mislabeling what a Foreign Intervention and a legally declared War is. There is a difference. We declared war because we were defending our nation. Btw,not every thing worked out perfectly after WWII. We got rid of the Nazis but then the Communists actually became a bigger threat. It makes you think huh?

I doubt anything would make the RonZombies think.

The Afghan War was a direct result of our being attacked on 9/11. Do the libtards like Paul maintain that our involvement there is also causing hatred?

you really need to learn logic. what does it happening because of 9/11 have to do with it causing hatred or not?

 

[Xenophon]

Ron Paul is not a Neocon,Liberal,or Socialist. In fact he is the farthest thing from all three. That's why he is despised by so many. Pretty sad stuff.

A lot of people on the right have embraced the idiotic new deal FDR world view that the USA should be a world police force.

Its sad to see them argue for an empire and attack those against it.

That is why they hate Paul, they want to stick him on 'the other side' but he isn't on 'the other side' he's actually hooked in to what the founders intended, and what we should be.