Romney visits Solyndra

I know, that just happened.

What's your point? That Obama is doing the right thing to look out for our interests?

a) tariffs are self destructive and yes I felt same when bush slapped them on steel imports.

Yes, in most cases they are, but when faced with a nation that's willing to do anything to corner the market and create a nationalized monopoly, one must do what one needs to do to make sure that doesn't happen.



Who are you calling "sonny"?

here is what you said;


first solyndra was/is deader than Kelsey's nuts so there are NO employees to meet wiht

One can say "employees" when one is referring to "former employees". It's a valid use of the word. My statement did not imply that they were still employed by the company.

and, second, the tariff came before this event, Obama as I said has already hit them with a tariff......see how that works?

The tariff did not come before Solyndra collapsed, which was my point.

uh huh......then you'd better bone up on the English language, how /why would romney meet them, pre- bankruptcy? ...they didn't advertise their horrid financial condition now did they? obama flew out there, brown did a drive by, making them out to be the best thing since sliced bread....


No, I imagine he didn't talk about that part much, did he?

that is an inference to romney speaking TODAY, the tariffs have happened already.....stop :dig:
 
bigrebnc looks like homer simpson in any debate with me: mouth open, eyes vacant. :lol:
 
China is becoming more like us in business practices...

IMO, they're more capitalistic than the United States. Obviously they're still highly socially authoritarian but certainly they're capitalists.

They realized that Mao's socialism was a total failure..... Most democrats don't.

China is more capitalist that the United States????!!!???

Seriously, what Bizarro world are you living in?

Have you ever tried to send products, like electronics, into China? Do you have any idea what they charge for customs on a laptop?

Do you not realize the extent of government subsidization and involvement in industry?

Do you not realize the extent to which they control their internet and other communications?

Just because China isn't completely Communist anymore does NOT make them capitalist, by any stretch of the imagination.

And it certainly doesn't make them more capitalist than the US.

Is that the kind of BS they feed you over at FoxNews?

Are you kidding me?

How do you think China ended up in their position? why do you think we're borrowing money from China??

You think our regulations are less stringent than China???

Capitalism is building China right now not government...

China is socially authoritarian and economically capitalist.....
 
Seriously, naturegirl would like Homer's sister standing next to him as Maddow made them both look stupid.

Obama's own economic advisers were against Solyndra...........yet he went there, literally and figuratively. There were others, I'm not sure of Maddow accompanied him or not. :lol:
 
uh huh......then you'd better bone up on the English language, how /why would romney meet them, pre- bankruptcy? ...they didn't advertise their horrid financial condition now did they? obama flew out there, brown did a drive by, making them out to be the best thing since sliced bread....


No, I imagine he didn't talk about that part much, did he?

that is an inference to romney speaking TODAY, the tariffs have happened already.....stop :dig:

Why would I possibly be pointing out that the tariffs happened before or after Romney visited in the context of my posts?

It just wouldn't make any sense.

Look, if you misunderstood what I was saying, then I apologize for not being clearer in my wording. Sometimes I type fast.

However, taken together with everything I said, I would assume the message would be pretty clear.

But let me be perfectly clear, to take away any confusion about the details:

- I was in fact referring to former employees, yes.
- I was in fact pointing out that the Tariffs happened after Solyndra failed, not after Romney's visit.

I was never trying to imply anything else.

So, given that, is there still an argument with my points?
 
what happened with Solyndra is a reflection of Obama's IQ. did obama really expect 300,000 americans to make a living making millions and millions of solar panels? you can only make so many solar panels! just like u can only make so many VHS's and Desktop PC's to a point! then they fade away just like albums and the band Hanson.
 
Are you kidding me?

How do you think China ended up in their position? why do you think we're borrowing money from China??

You think our regulations are less stringent than China???

Capitalism is building China right now not government...

China is socially authoritarian and economically capitalist.....

Dude, seriously, stop.

My firm has an office in China. I do business with China all the time.

That's why I mentioned laptop shipments to China in the first place.

I hear from Chinese citizens about business pretty much all the time.

China is a LOT more socialist than we are. By a HUGE margin.

Don't believe everything you hear from the right wing press man, it'll rot your brain.
 
Maddow is a crypto-genius compared to Mr. Nick. He would stand there with a 'doh' look as she tore him up.

Really?? because I have never lost a debate against a progressive - they're the ones who run home with their tail between their legs looking for citations to back their shit up - which is usually nothing more than op-ed bullshit anyways which doesn't amount to much....

You see snot bubble - in the real world - in the intelligent world - opinions don't mean dick - facts do, but opinions don't.

Maddow wouldn't last 5 minutes with me.... I believe in truth and she believes in her ego and what makes her feel good and justified.

Truth always wins in a debate.
 
Really?? because I have never lost a debate against a progressive - they're the ones who run home with their tail between their legs looking for citations to back their shit up - which is usually nothing more than op-ed bullshit anyways which doesn't amount to much....

You see snot bubble - in the real world - in the intelligent world - opinions don't mean dick - facts do, but opinions don't.

Maddow wouldn't last 5 minutes with me.... I believe in truth and she believes in her ego and what makes her feel good and justified.

Truth always wins in a debate.

ROFL. Man, you crack me up Mr Nick.

Fear not, it's in a good way.



Good night everybody, I"m outta here!
 
Are you kidding me?

How do you think China ended up in their position? why do you think we're borrowing money from China??........ Oh yeah ^^ is the link to McDonalds China...

You think our regulations are less stringent than China???

Capitalism is building China right now not government...

China is socially authoritarian and economically capitalist.....

Dude, seriously, stop.

My firm has an office in China. I do business with China all the time.

That's why I mentioned laptop shipments to China in the first place.

I hear from Chinese citizens about business pretty much all the time.

China is a LOT more socialist than we are. By a HUGE margin.

Don't believe everything you hear from the right wing press man, it'll rot your brain.

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How many more fast food joints you thing exist in China???

China is turning into Japan....

They're capitalists. They're not socialistic much at all.

I don't give a fuck about your laptops - that doesn't make you a geopolitical expert on economics just because you sell laptops to some Chinese guy.

:lol:
 
So if solar is the way of the future what are you going to do with those "spent" solar panels. They don't last forever ya know. Just like a liberal, live for today ,we'll worry about tomorrow later. The heck with the grandkids.
 
So if solar is the way of the future what are you going to do with those "spent" solar panels. They don't last forever ya know. Just like a liberal, live for today ,we'll worry about tomorrow later. The heck with the grandkids.

Not to mention the guy who has to use gas and his body energy plus the time to come out and replace/repair/maintain those panels....

Progressives want free energy and that just doesn't exist - at least not using their methods. I think there is a lot of potential in solar energy, but at the same time it takes energy to maintain that panel.....

I have several awesome ideas but free energy is impossible- hence my ideas would be moot.
 
I must say it probably was quite a feat to keep this quiet until it was done. Solyndra and Obamites would have stripped the place of any remnants of what the wasted taxpayer money was spent on.

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Mitt Romney Visits Solyndra Amid Attack on Obama Jobs Record - ABC News

You really should watch Rachel Maddow; you would appear less foolish. Tonight for example Ms. Maddow discussed Solyndra and two other failed projects supported by the government: Acusphere and Spherics, Inc (both of which got taxpayer money).

The government which provided the money was ..................drum beat: Massachusetts.

No thanks Maddow is not really my cup of tea..............however......have you checked Obama's other investments in solar........oh snap, that's right he doesn't care, IT'S NOT HIS MONEY, IT'S MINE AND YOURS, AND YOURS AND YOURS.

The "government" has no business investing taxpayer dollars in failed businesses...........unless you don't give a crap about taxpayer money.

It's nice to hear you admit to being willfully ignorant, so many on the right refues to take that first step. Oh, and BTW, do you know who was the Governor of MA and gave taxpayer money to Acusphere and Spherics? (shhhhhh mitt romney)
 
You know, I love how right-wingers talk about Solyndra like they have some kind of point.

When really the only point that there is to make about Solyndra is that the Chinese gave more of a shit about controlling the clean energy market than we did.

Not Quite cartoon her0.. The product Solyndra was offering was supposed to be an incremental design improvement over anything the Chinese had. It wasn't.. The special optics was costly and could be mitigated by using just a slightly bigger "standard" panel. It was bad marketing, AWFUL execution of a start-up, and a lot of taxpayer sodomy goin on... I can't imagine the Chinese insisting on building a monumental NEW palace on the most expensive industrial real estate in their country FOR A START-UP!!!!!!

Prime example of the shananigans that happen when the prez becomes CEO of the United States.
 
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