Romney Staggered by Good Jobs Report

[Dreamy]

What is so damn frustrating is knowing how much faster the recovery could be moving IF the damn pubpots would get out of the way. To them, its all about hurting the president and they don't care that Americans are in their way. They have worked to make sure he won't be re-elected and the failure of their own country is nothing more than unimportant collateral damage.

they should be brought up on charges of treason.

Did you think the Bush critics did the same for the 8 years he was in office and especially when he was seeking his 2nd term? Or are your eyes and ears partisan?

 

[Intense]

facts fall right out of their ears

You meet every expectation.

 

[Intense]

What is so damn frustrating is knowing how much faster the recovery could be moving IF the damn pubpots would get out of the way. To them, its all about hurting the president and they don't care that Americans are in their way. They have worked to make sure he won't be re-elected and the failure of their own country is nothing more than unimportant collateral damage.

they should be brought up on charges of treason.

In your Fascist Statist Utopia, I'm sure Homes would be raided 24/7. Nice to see you out of the closet, Comrade. Prisons, Mass Graves, are a real turn on for you, huh.

 

[pinqy]

No it does not fool. the UE1 Rate is simply those claiming Benefits now. If you run out, or do not qualify, You are not counted.

Honest question....where did you get that idea from? it's not true and has never been true. So how did you get the idea that it was? Did someone tell you, or did you just assume it?

Perhaps you should read: How the Government Measures Unemployment
Oh, and not seasonally adjusted, for October there were 11,741,000 people classified as Unemployed and 5,035,367 people collecting benefits from State and Federal programs.

 

[kwc57]

Friday's strong jobs report was a punch in the gut to the already reeling Romney campaign. With his disaster relief stunt exposed and media becoming less tolerant of his lying, Mitt Romney had to face the unavoidable conclusion the numbers presented, the economy is recovering without the help of his "business experience." For a guy with nothing else to sell, that pretty much destroyed his prospects for political success.

Although not enough to sway the dimmest of Romney supporters, the more intellectually able will see the surging employment of the current report and the upward revisions of prior reports for what they reveal of the President's leadership -- a sound policy and a steady hand. The Romney campaign can't tolerate that. It tells the voters they have no reason to vote for Romney.

Mitt Romney is out of his league. He's trying to compete in a contest where he's clearly outclassed by the competition. He doesn't have the moves or the experience to deal with it. Sure, he can bob and weave, duck and dive, but that's not enough when the other guy knows winning the match takes more than trash talk.

Don't worry, you will always have Propaganda and the compliance of the Press to prop you up, Winston Smith.

propaganda?

you mean like mitt lying and saying that Jeep is sending jobs to china?

that kind of propaganda?

hope you came through the storm ok, btw.

Yes, propaganda.

The leftist bias of the New York Times beautifully encapsulated in seven words used about a week before two presidential elections. Headline over Saturday’s editorial on the third quarter GDP creeping up to 2.0 percent under Democrat Barack Obama: “Slow but Steady Improvement.” Headline twenty years ago (October 29, 1992) when Republican incumbent George H.W. Bush was in the White House and the third quarter GDP nearly doubled to 2.7 percent: “Gross National Letdown.”


Read more: NY Times Called Bush

 

[Charles_Main]

No it does not fool. the UE1 Rate is simply those claiming Benefits now. If you run out, or do not qualify, You are not counted.

Honest question....where did you get that idea from? it's not true and has never been true. So how did you get the idea that it was? Did someone tell you, or did you just assume it?

Perhaps you should read: How the Government Measures Unemployment
Oh, and not seasonally adjusted, for October there were 11,741,000 people classified as Unemployed and 5,035,367 people collecting benefits from State and Federal programs.

Perhaps you should read your own link.

UE1 is only people claiming benefits.

If you want to count all those who have ran out, or Gave up or are Under Employed.

You have to look at UE6 Which by their own admission is 14%.

What a Bunch of fucking idiots you guys are.

Trying to Dress this report up as good news.

 

[Intense]

Romney isn't really equipped or qualified for much of anything except running for office and he stinks at doing that too.

Like Obama's track recorded train wreck gives you bragging rights?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No it does not fool. the UE1 Rate is simply those claiming Benefits now. If you run out, or do not qualify, You are not counted.

Honest question....where did you get that idea from? it's not true and has never been true. So how did you get the idea that it was? Did someone tell you, or did you just assume it?

Perhaps you should read: How the Government Measures Unemployment
Oh, and not seasonally adjusted, for October there were 11,741,000 people classified as Unemployed and 5,035,367 people collecting benefits from State and Federal programs.

The data does not support the facts of the economy in the real world. What are you smoking?

 

[Zander]

Economy good! Everything good!!! Nothing to see here, all good! Obey Forward. The hope and The change.

 

[Dreamy]

Economy good! Everything good!!! Nothing to see here, all good! Obey Forward. The hope and The change.

Flashback! ^^^



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE]Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. - YouTube[/ame]

 

[AquaAthena]

Economy good! Everything good!!! Nothing to see here, all good! Obey Forward. The hope and The change.

 

[Amazed]

I'd think those denying monthly job growth are the ones who look silly.



yes, it does. It's in the article.

Sorry Chedd, no.

Unemployment went UP...and your defense is that some people who dropped out of the statistics were now being counted again.

That is stupid.

They should never have stopped being counted kid...sorry.

I can't help it if you don't know how the numbers are calculated.

Actually:

The final monthly jobs report before Election Day offered a mixed bag of economic evidence that would surely become political putty for the presidential candidates, with the unemployment rate ticking up to 7.9 percent but the economy adding a better-than-expected 171,000 jobs. [up from last month when it was 7.8%]

"Today's increase in the unemployment rate is a sad reminder that the economy is at a virtual standstill," Romney said in a statement. "The jobless rate is higher than it was when President Obama took office, and there are still 23 million Americans struggling for work.


At the same time, the number of unemployed grew by 170,000, roughly the same amount...

Read more: Last jobs report before election shows economy in 'virtual standstill' | Fox News

Nobody can name an Obama jobs program.

Obama is not doing anything but campaigning. His inactivity is the only positive in the economy.

Best thing for the economy at this time would be a win by Romney. If Obama wins the economy will take a massive hit because fear and gridlock will be a certainty.

facts don't matter much to you, do they?

What you can't help is your inabilty to think for yourself.

So....you liked it when they fell OUT of the statistical count....but you want to use it as an EXCUSE when they come back into the numbers...yessirrreeee bob VERY intelligent of you.

 

[pinqy]

No it does not fool. the UE1 Rate is simply those claiming Benefits now. If you run out, or do not qualify, You are not counted.

Honest question....where did you get that idea from? it's not true and has never been true. So how did you get the idea that it was? Did someone tell you, or did you just assume it?

Perhaps you should read: How the Government Measures Unemployment
Oh, and not seasonally adjusted, for October there were 11,741,000 people classified as Unemployed and 5,035,367 people collecting benefits from State and Federal programs.

Perhaps you should read your own link.

UE1 is only people claiming benefits.

No it's not. The U1 is people unemployed 15+ weeks as a percent of the labor force. Not sure why you brought that up, though. The official rate is the U3 and that is total Unemployed: Did not work during the survey week, looked for work in the 4 weeks ending in the survey week, could have started a job during the survey week.

And you should read the link:

Who is counted as unemployed?
Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Actively looking for work may consist of any of the following activities:

Contacting:
An employer directly or having a job interview
A public or private employment agency
Friends or relatives
A school or university employment center
Sending out resumes or filling out applications
Placing or answering advertisements
Checking union or professional registers
Some other means of active job search
Passive methods of job search do not have the potential to result in a job offer and therefore do not qualify as active job search methods. Examples of passive methods include attending a job training program or course, or merely reading about job openings that are posted in newspapers or on the Internet.

Workers expecting to be recalled from temporary layoff are counted as unemployed, whether or not they have engaged in a specific jobseeking activity. In all other cases, the individual must have been engaged in at least one active job search activity in the 4 weeks preceding the interview and be available for work (except for temporary illness).

The questions used in the interviews are carefully designed to elicit the most accurate picture of each person's labor force activities. Some of the major questions that determine employment status are: (The capitalized words are emphasized when read by the interviewers.)

Does anyone in this household have a business or a farm?
LAST WEEK, did you do ANY work for (either) pay (or profit)?
If the answer to question 1 is "yes" and the answer to question 2 is "no," the next question is:
LAST WEEK, did you do any unpaid work in the family business or farm?
For those who reply "no" to both questions 2 and 3, the next key questions used to determine employment status are:
LAST WEEK, (in addition to the business,) did you have a job, either full or part time? Include any job from which you were temporarily absent.
LAST WEEK, were you on layoff from a job?
What was the main reason you were absent from work LAST WEEK?
For those who respond "yes" to question 5 about being on layoff, the following questions are asked:
Has your employer given you a date to return to work?
and, if "no,"
Have you been given any indication that you will be recalled to work within the next 6 months?
If the responses to either question 7 or 8 indicate that the person expects to be recalled from layoff, he or she is counted as unemployed. For those who were reported as having no job or business from which they were absent or on layoff, the next question is:
Have you been doing anything to find work during the last 4 weeks?
For those who say "yes," the next question is:
What are all of the things you have done to find work during the last 4 weeks?
If an active method of looking for work, such as those listed at the beginning of this section, is mentioned, the following question is asked:
LAST WEEK, could you have started a job if one had been offered?
If there is no reason, except temporary illness, that the person could not take a job, he or she is considered to be not only looking but also available for work and is counted as unemployed.

Nothing about benefits. Not even asked.


And you didn't answer my question. I'll respond as civilly as you responded to me: Where did you get the dumb-ass idea that only people collecting benefits are counted?

 

[Truthmatters]

they left the workforce hunt because you guys crashed the world economy.

 

[Charles_Main]

they left the workforce hunt because you guys crashed the world economy.

Still an idiot.

 

[Charles_Main]

Honest question....where did you get that idea from? it's not true and has never been true. So how did you get the idea that it was? Did someone tell you, or did you just assume it?

Perhaps you should read: How the Government Measures Unemployment
Oh, and not seasonally adjusted, for October there were 11,741,000 people classified as Unemployed and 5,035,367 people collecting benefits from State and Federal programs.

Perhaps you should read your own link.

UE1 is only people claiming benefits.

No it's not. The U1 is people unemployed 15+ weeks.

And you should read the link:

Who is counted as unemployed?
Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Actively looking for work may consist of any of the following activities:

Contacting:
An employer directly or having a job interview
A public or private employment agency
Friends or relatives
A school or university employment center
Sending out resumes or filling out applications
Placing or answering advertisements
Checking union or professional registers
Some other means of active job search
Passive methods of job search do not have the potential to result in a job offer and therefore do not qualify as active job search methods. Examples of passive methods include attending a job training program or course, or merely reading about job openings that are posted in newspapers or on the Internet.

Workers expecting to be recalled from temporary layoff are counted as unemployed, whether or not they have engaged in a specific jobseeking activity. In all other cases, the individual must have been engaged in at least one active job search activity in the 4 weeks preceding the interview and be available for work (except for temporary illness).

The questions used in the interviews are carefully designed to elicit the most accurate picture of each person's labor force activities. Some of the major questions that determine employment status are: (The capitalized words are emphasized when read by the interviewers.)

Does anyone in this household have a business or a farm?
LAST WEEK, did you do ANY work for (either) pay (or profit)?
If the answer to question 1 is "yes" and the answer to question 2 is "no," the next question is:
LAST WEEK, did you do any unpaid work in the family business or farm?
For those who reply "no" to both questions 2 and 3, the next key questions used to determine employment status are:
LAST WEEK, (in addition to the business,) did you have a job, either full or part time? Include any job from which you were temporarily absent.
LAST WEEK, were you on layoff from a job?
What was the main reason you were absent from work LAST WEEK?
For those who respond "yes" to question 5 about being on layoff, the following questions are asked:
Has your employer given you a date to return to work?
and, if "no,"
Have you been given any indication that you will be recalled to work within the next 6 months?
If the responses to either question 7 or 8 indicate that the person expects to be recalled from layoff, he or she is counted as unemployed. For those who were reported as having no job or business from which they were absent or on layoff, the next question is:
Have you been doing anything to find work during the last 4 weeks?
For those who say "yes," the next question is:
What are all of the things you have done to find work during the last 4 weeks?
If an active method of looking for work, such as those listed at the beginning of this section, is mentioned, the following question is asked:
LAST WEEK, could you have started a job if one had been offered?
If there is no reason, except temporary illness, that the person could not take a job, he or she is considered to be not only looking but also available for work and is counted as unemployed.

Nothing about benefits. Not even asked.


And you didn't answer my question. I'll respond as civilly as you responded to me: Where did you get the dumb-ass idea that only people collecting benefits are counted?

As soon as you tell me where you get the idea that the 7.9% rate includes those who have gave up, or ran out of Benefits, Ill think about answering you.

 

[Rozman]

Friday's strong jobs report was a punch in the gut to the already reeling Romney campaign. With his disaster relief stunt exposed and media becoming less tolerant of his lying, Mitt Romney had to face the unavoidable conclusion the numbers presented, the economy is recovering without the help of his "business experience." For a guy with nothing else to sell, that pretty much destroyed his prospects for political success.

Although not enough to sway the dimmest of Romney supporters, the more intellectually able will see the surging employment of the current report and the upward revisions of prior reports for what they reveal of the President's leadership -- a sound policy and a steady hand. The Romney campaign can't tolerate that. It tells the voters they have no reason to vote for Romney.

Mitt Romney is out of his league. He's trying to compete in a contest where he's clearly outclassed by the competition. He doesn't have the moves or the experience to deal with it. Sure, he can bob and weave, duck and dive, but that's not enough when the other guy knows winning the match takes more than trash talk.

What strong jobs report are you referring to?....
The UE number went UP....

 

[mudwhistle]

I'd think those denying monthly job growth are the ones who look silly.



yes, it does. It's in the article.

Sorry Chedd, no.

Unemployment went UP...and your defense is that some people who dropped out of the statistics were now being counted again.

That is stupid.

They should never have stopped being counted kid...sorry.

I can't help it if you don't know how the numbers are calculated.

Actually:

The final monthly jobs report before Election Day offered a mixed bag of economic evidence that would surely become political putty for the presidential candidates, with the unemployment rate ticking up to 7.9 percent but the economy adding a better-than-expected 171,000 jobs. [up from last month when it was 7.8%]

"Today's increase in the unemployment rate is a sad reminder that the economy is at a virtual standstill," Romney said in a statement. "The jobless rate is higher than it was when President Obama took office, and there are still 23 million Americans struggling for work.


At the same time, the number of unemployed grew by 170,000, roughly the same amount...

Read more: Last jobs report before election shows economy in 'virtual standstill' | Fox News

Nobody can name an Obama jobs program.

Obama is not doing anything but campaigning. His inactivity is the only positive in the economy.

Best thing for the economy at this time would be a win by Romney. If Obama wins the economy will take a massive hit because fear and gridlock will be a certainty.

facts don't matter much to you, do they?

They mean everything to me and since you have none you know where you can put your condescending attitude.

 

[pinqy]

No it does not fool. the UE1 Rate is simply those claiming Benefits now. If you run out, or do not qualify, You are not counted.

Honest question....where did you get that idea from? it's not true and has never been true. So how did you get the idea that it was? Did someone tell you, or did you just assume it?

Perhaps you should read: How the Government Measures Unemployment
Oh, and not seasonally adjusted, for October there were 11,741,000 people classified as Unemployed and 5,035,367 people collecting benefits from State and Federal programs.

The data does not support the facts of the economy in the real world. What are you smoking?

Marlboro lights. But in any case, your question isn't clear. Which data doesn't support which facts?

 

[Liability]

Out of general curiosity:

Doesn't there have to actually BE a "good jobs report" before Gov. Romney could even conceivably be "staggered" by it?