Romney polling better than Obama in IL?

[Avatar4321]

Shock poll: Obama could lose Illinois | The Daily Caller

kind of shocked at this one.

 

[Avatar4321]

No comment, really?

 

[jillian]

Shock poll: Obama could lose Illinois | The Daily Caller

kind of shocked at this one.

that's cause it's nonsense...

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Further proof that 1980 is coming again.

 

[Avatar4321]

So they didn't get those results?

 

[SniperFire]

Further proof that 1980 is coming again.

Hey. You can't have a Reagan until you have a Carter!

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Shock poll: Obama could lose Illinois | The Daily Caller

kind of shocked at this one.

that's cause it's nonsense...

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

I don't for one second believe that Obama will lose Illinois. However, I will note the following inconvenient truths for you and his other supporters. Obama's campaign ran a deficit last month. They aren't taking in the money they need. Meanwhile Romney is raising millions hand over fist even in traditionally Democratic leaning cities. Obama's audiences are shrinking at his events while Romney's are gaining.

Now, you guys can sit there and cite the Real Clear Politics polling average a hundred times a day if you want, but all of us, including you, know what is happening out there, even if you refuse to admit it yourself.

 

[American Horse]

I suspect the rationale behind him losing is accurate; downstaters have to be fed up with the crap flowing out of Chicago; it doesn't represent their values .... At all. what they see is so out of phase with their values that even his claim to be a son of Illinois is blatantly false. He's a Chicago politician, and little else. They probably would like to see this evil quashed and they can help get it done, even some of the not-so-downstate (Will/Joliet for one) counties might rebel.

Edit: The TPM is imbedded in the hinterlands of Illinois.

 

[Avatar4321]

Shock poll: Obama could lose Illinois | The Daily Caller

kind of shocked at this one.

that's cause it's nonsense...

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

I don't for one second believe that Obama will lose Illinois. However, I will note the following inconvenient truths for you and his other supporters. Obama's campaign ran a deficit last month. They aren't taking in the money they need. Meanwhile Romney is raising millions hand over fist even in traditionally Democratic leaning cities. Obama's audiences are shrinking at his events while Romney's are gaining.

Now, you guys can sit there and cite the Real Clear Politics polling average a hundred times a day if you want, but all of us, including you, know what is happening out there, even if you refuse to admit it yourself.

I am not sure I believe he will lose IL either. But the fact that he is polling badly there in any poll makes me wonder. He really is spending more money than he is taking in. And that will effect that campaign. He is attracting less and less people.

I dont think the public polls are being completely honest with what's actually going on. It would explain why his campaign was requesting local radio stations in NM to let Obama come on with soft ball questions. He won that state by 15 points. My guess is his internals are saying something far diffferent than what we have.

 

[Avatar4321]

I suspect the rationale behind him losing is accurate; downstaters have to be fed up with the crap flowing out of Chicago; it doesn't represent their values .... At all. what they see is so out of phase with their values that even his claim to be a son of Illinois is blatantly false. He's a Chicago politician, and little else. The probably would like to see this evil quashed and they can help get it done, even some of the not-so-downstate (Will/Joliet for one) counties might rebel.

What if the Chicago machine is discouraged by the lack of an economic turnaround? How do you think that would effect the results in the state?

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmm....... 7, 15, and 21. For President Obama. Wouldn't Romney like some bad polls like that.


Chicago Tribune

2/2 - 2/6

600 RV

56

35

Obama +21



The Simon Poll/SIU

10/11 - 10/16

1000 RV

46

39

Obama +7



FOX Chicago/WAA

9/28 - 9/28

1815 RV

50

35

Obama +15

 

[Lakhota]

Tucker Carlson? The Daily Caller? Damn, now I'm really worried...

 

[Dissent]

Romney is a bigger liberal than Obama. Who would have thought it.

 

[EriktheRed]

No.

This was already knocked down in another thread. The President is NOT losing Illinois and the Daily Caller is horseshit.

 

[EriktheRed]

Shock poll: Obama could lose Illinois | The Daily Caller

kind of shocked at this one.

that's cause it's nonsense...

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

I don't for one second believe that Obama will lose Illinois. However, I will note the following inconvenient truths for you and his other supporters. Obama's campaign ran a deficit last month. They aren't taking in the money they need. Meanwhile Romney is raising millions hand over fist even in traditionally Democratic leaning cities. Obama's audiences are shrinking at his events while Romney's are gaining.

Now, you guys can sit there and cite the Real Clear Politics polling average a hundred times a day if you want, but all of us, including you, know what is happening out there, even if you refuse to admit it yourself.

That big-money donors are giving more to Mitt? No surprise there.

 

[jillian]

I suspect the rationale behind him losing is accurate; downstaters have to be fed up with the crap flowing out of Chicago; it doesn't represent their values .... At all. what they see is so out of phase with their values that even his claim to be a son of Illinois is blatantly false. He's a Chicago politician, and little else. The probably would like to see this evil quashed and they can help get it done, even some of the not-so-downstate (Will/Joliet for one) counties might rebel.

What if the Chicago machine is discouraged by the lack of an economic turnaround? How do you think that would effect the results in the state?

because they know that the obstructionist house prevented any real movement economically.

 

[Avatar4321]

I suspect the rationale behind him losing is accurate; downstaters have to be fed up with the crap flowing out of Chicago; it doesn't represent their values .... At all. what they see is so out of phase with their values that even his claim to be a son of Illinois is blatantly false. He's a Chicago politician, and little else. The probably would like to see this evil quashed and they can help get it done, even some of the not-so-downstate (Will/Joliet for one) counties might rebel.

What if the Chicago machine is discouraged by the lack of an economic turnaround? How do you think that would effect the results in the state?

because they know that the obstructionist house prevented any real movement economically.

Yeah. They obstructed so much that they only left over a dozen bills on Harry Reids desk.

 

[Avatar4321]

No.

This was already knocked down in another thread. The President is NOT losing Illinois and the Daily Caller is horseshit.

Your arguments are amazing.

 

[EriktheRed]

No.

This was already knocked down in another thread. The President is NOT losing Illinois and the Daily Caller is horseshit.

Your arguments are amazing.

No more amazing than your source.

It ain't happening.

 

[Conservadude]

No.

This was already knocked down in another thread. The President is NOT losing Illinois and the Daily Caller is horseshit.

We'll see.