Romney: Dump it on the States

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

THAT..was basically what "State's rights" was all about..originally.

Let's see some proof of that claim.

States' rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Start there..

Take some notes.

Sure, no problem. The very first paragraph.

Since the 1940s, it has often been considered a loaded term because of its use in opposition to federally mandated racial desegregation.[1][2][3][4]

Three of those "sources" are invalid links and the one that is still active is an opinion piece.

Hope you're taking some notes.

Right after that it clearly states, "In law, states' prerogatives are protected by the Tenth Amendment." The Tenth Amendment is part of the bill of right and thus was written over 200 years ago securing "state's rights." Your argument is invalid.

The whole notion that the state's rights argument has to do with wanting to uphold slavery and racial segregation is another in the long line of manufactured myths by Marxists like you to try and discredit the conservative and libertarian argument for smaller, decentralized government. They certainly may have abused the Tenth to try and justify those atrocities, but they were not the framework for the amendment when it was written. Honest and intellectual people understand this. Dishonest and dishonorable people lie about it.

You fail.

 

[Mr. H.]

More out of touch hogwash from Romney:

On Thursday, Mitt Romney unveiled the latest in a series of bad ideas for taking government duties out of Washington and hiding them in the back rooms of state capitols. Mostly, Mr. Romney wants to allow states to quietly smother social programs the federal government has run for decades. In the case of his new energy policy, he wants to give states power to bypass Washington’s caution in burrowing for oil, gas and coal on federal lands.

States, he said, could accelerate the permitting process for energy extraction, resulting in far more production than Washington has allowed. That’s probably true because many states have traditionally been poor stewards of their resources. They are far more captive than the federal government to the energy and timber interests that have long pressed for this concession and have far less oversight by government inspectors and journalists.

...

Mr. Romney has a long list of other core federal functions that he wants to dump onto the states. He has proposed offloading Medicaid and food stamps by writing a sharply reduced check to the states to take care of the health and nutrition needs of poor people. He wants to repeal health care reform and let the states design their own programs for the uninsured (or not).

He wants to turn over federal job-training programs to the states, let them design their own unemployment insurance programs and give them a bigger role in designing immigration controls. (Of course, he is strongly opposed to giving the states flexibility in their welfare programs, lest they give money to a low-income family that isn’t working up to Republican standards.)

Don’t be fooled by his claims that states can perform these vital functions “more efficiently” than Washington. They can’t. Battered by the downturn, states can barely perform the core functions they have. They have been laying off teachers and school personnel by the tens of thousands, cutting services to the poor past the bone and falling far behind on needed public works

More at link

Bravo for Romney re: states' energy extraction.
Something else that would get "dumped" on those states... tens of millions of dollars in fees and royalties.

Not to mention, jobs jobs jobs... which the Obama administration has repeatedly told the energy sector no no no.

 

[francoHFW]

Just watch your state and local fees and taxes rise, as they have for 30 years under Voodoo tax rates- that's how the poorest are paying as much as the rich is all taxes and fees, and the middle class MORE. Pub dupes- so gd brainwashed and foolish...total tools of the greedy rich, the only group prospering. And thanks for the depression and the mindless obstruction...

 

[francoHFW]

More out of touch hogwash from Romney:

On Thursday, Mitt Romney unveiled the latest in a series of bad ideas for taking government duties out of Washington and hiding them in the back rooms of state capitols. Mostly, Mr. Romney wants to allow states to quietly smother social programs the federal government has run for decades. In the case of his new energy policy, he wants to give states power to bypass Washington’s caution in burrowing for oil, gas and coal on federal lands.

States, he said, could accelerate the permitting process for energy extraction, resulting in far more production than Washington has allowed. That’s probably true because many states have traditionally been poor stewards of their resources. They are far more captive than the federal government to the energy and timber interests that have long pressed for this concession and have far less oversight by government inspectors and journalists.

...

Mr. Romney has a long list of other core federal functions that he wants to dump onto the states. He has proposed offloading Medicaid and food stamps by writing a sharply reduced check to the states to take care of the health and nutrition needs of poor people. He wants to repeal health care reform and let the states design their own programs for the uninsured (or not).

He wants to turn over federal job-training programs to the states, let them design their own unemployment insurance programs and give them a bigger role in designing immigration controls. (Of course, he is strongly opposed to giving the states flexibility in their welfare programs, lest they give money to a low-income family that isn’t working up to Republican standards.)

Don’t be fooled by his claims that states can perform these vital functions “more efficiently” than Washington. They can’t. Battered by the downturn, states can barely perform the core functions they have. They have been laying off teachers and school personnel by the tens of thousands, cutting services to the poor past the bone and falling far behind on needed public works

More at link

Bravo for Romney re: states' energy extraction.
Something else that would get "dumped" on those states... tens of millions of dollars in fees and royalties.

Not to mention, jobs jobs jobs... which the Obama administration has repeatedly told the energy sector no no no.

Total Pubcrappe- production has never been higher and safer. Your brain is FOS, dupe. Take the Keystone pipe line- it's coming, of course, and it was the Pub Gov. of Nebraska who stopped it, not Obama.That's just the beginning of THAT tidal wave of fear mongering BULLSHYTTE.

 

[Katzndogz]

If the states are allowed to make their own decisions, they will decide issues for the benefit of the state's citizens. To democrats all decisions should be made by the federal government and prevent states from making wrong decisions.

It's no different than the control the federal government wants over individuals. If left to your own devices you might decide to have french fries instead of steamed broccoli. Therefore that decision needs to be taken out of your hands.

 

[Papageorgio]

so what have we learned from Shallow

the bible is about slavery
Mcdonalds is about slavery
christianity is about slavery
states rights is about slavery

what next, shingles?

Shingles is related to the Herpes virus.

Shingles - PubMed Health

Which also causes chicken pox and is all about slavery or is Bush's fault, whatever works best for the racist liberals.

 

[Mr. H.]

More out of touch hogwash from Romney:



More at link

Bravo for Romney re: states' energy extraction.
Something else that would get "dumped" on those states... tens of millions of dollars in fees and royalties.

Not to mention, jobs jobs jobs... which the Obama administration has repeatedly told the energy sector no no no.

Total Pubcrappe- production has never been higher and safer. Your brain is FOS, dupe. Take the Keystone pipe line- it's coming, of course, and it was the Pub Gov. of Nebraska who stopped it, not Obama.That's just the beginning of THAT tidal wave of fear mongering BULLSHYTTE.

Safer, no. And that is thanks to industry, not Obama.
Higher- hell yes. It's been much higher. And the recent uptrend in domestic production is also no thanks to Obama.

And if a Governor- no matter what party affiliation- can stop a project such as Keystone XL, then a Governor should have the right to allow drilling in its State's waters. Obama is usurping States' rights for his own twisted agenda.

 

[Sallow]

Yeah, taking power from Centralized Gov't in Washington and putting it back into the hands of people at the local level is a real nightmare for all you Communists (Liberal Democrats) out there.

Remember the immortal words of John Lennon who wrote:

"Power to the Government!
Power to the Government!
Power to the Government!
Power to the Government, Right On!"

What's wrong with a small effective central government? What's wrong with putting things back in working ordser? What's wrong with the OP?

"Small" governments are effective in small nations.

In any case..it's not a small government you folks are looking for..since you want a huge expensive military..and a government that oversees every single pregnancy in the United States. What you guys are looking for is "Rommunism". A government that takes from the poor and middle class..to give to the rich.

 

[editec]

State's rights is generally brought to you by the crowd that supports slavery.

True that.

As is so evident here.

 

[Sallow]

so what have we learned from Shallow

the bible is about slavery
Mcdonalds is about slavery
christianity is about slavery
states rights is about slavery

what next, shingles?

Shingles is related to the Herpes virus.

Shingles - PubMed Health

Which also causes chicken pox and is all about slavery or is Bush's fault, whatever works best for the racist liberals.

Racism doesn't mean what you think it means. Because it's not possible to be a racist and a liberal at the same time.

Pick up a dictionary.

 

[Sallow]

Bravo for Romney re: states' energy extraction.
Something else that would get "dumped" on those states... tens of millions of dollars in fees and royalties.

Not to mention, jobs jobs jobs... which the Obama administration has repeatedly told the energy sector no no no.

Total Pubcrappe- production has never been higher and safer. Your brain is FOS, dupe. Take the Keystone pipe line- it's coming, of course, and it was the Pub Gov. of Nebraska who stopped it, not Obama.That's just the beginning of THAT tidal wave of fear mongering BULLSHYTTE.

Safer, no. And that is thanks to industry, not Obama.
Higher- hell yes. It's been much higher. And the recent uptrend in domestic production is also no thanks to Obama.

And if a Governor- no matter what party affiliation- can stop a project such as Keystone XL, then a Governor should have the right to allow drilling in its State's waters. Obama is usurping States' rights for his own twisted agenda.

States don't have the "rights" you folks seem to think they have..at least not constitutionally. Case law..however..has been "usurping" constitutional supremacy, incrementally since the civil war and to the determent of the Union and the rights of citizens.

The whole Keystone argument is another red herring basically brought to you by the power oil lobbyists and republicans bent on embarrassing Obama. Obama was in no way trying to kill the deal. He should of..because oil companies seem bent on squeezing every penny of profit out of these things as possible..with no regard to people and or communities. Missouri's Kalamazoo river is a prime example of that..where there was a tar sand oil spill..and the oil company didn't have a fucking clue as to how to clean it up.

Michael Brune: We Are the Kalamazoo

 

[Claudette]

More out of touch hogwash from Romney:

On Thursday, Mitt Romney unveiled the latest in a series of bad ideas for taking government duties out of Washington and hiding them in the back rooms of state capitols. Mostly, Mr. Romney wants to allow states to quietly smother social programs the federal government has run for decades. In the case of his new energy policy, he wants to give states power to bypass Washington’s caution in burrowing for oil, gas and coal on federal lands.

States, he said, could accelerate the permitting process for energy extraction, resulting in far more production than Washington has allowed. That’s probably true because many states have traditionally been poor stewards of their resources. They are far more captive than the federal government to the energy and timber interests that have long pressed for this concession and have far less oversight by government inspectors and journalists.

...

Mr. Romney has a long list of other core federal functions that he wants to dump onto the states. He has proposed offloading Medicaid and food stamps by writing a sharply reduced check to the states to take care of the health and nutrition needs of poor people. He wants to repeal health care reform and let the states design their own programs for the uninsured (or not).

He wants to turn over federal job-training programs to the states, let them design their own unemployment insurance programs and give them a bigger role in designing immigration controls. (Of course, he is strongly opposed to giving the states flexibility in their welfare programs, lest they give money to a low-income family that isn’t working up to Republican standards.)

Don’t be fooled by his claims that states can perform these vital functions “more efficiently” than Washington. They can’t. Battered by the downturn, states can barely perform the core functions they have. They have been laying off teachers and school personnel by the tens of thousands, cutting services to the poor past the bone and falling far behind on needed public works

More at link

Sounds like a great idea to me, considering that's the way our government was meant to function in the first place.

Yup. The States were supposed to have the power not the Fed Govt. The Fed Govt was supposed to be small without the power it has today.

We now have a Govt that runs everything. Including the States. Thats Not the way the Constitution was set up.

 

[Sallow]

More out of touch hogwash from Romney:



More at link

Sounds like a great idea to me, considering that's the way our government was meant to function in the first place.

Yup. The States were supposed to have the power not the Fed Govt. The Fed Govt was supposed to be small without the power it has today.

We now have a Govt that runs everything. Including the States. Thats Not the way the Constitution was set up.

That's incorrect.

 

[Claudette]

Sounds like a great idea to me, considering that's the way our government was meant to function in the first place.

Yup. The States were supposed to have the power not the Fed Govt. The Fed Govt was supposed to be small without the power it has today.

We now have a Govt that runs everything. Including the States. Thats Not the way the Constitution was set up.

That's incorrect.

Glad you think its incorrect but thats not the way I see the Constitution.

No way were the FF in favor of a large intrusive Central Govt running the show i.e. King Goerge.

The States were supposed to be able to run themselves without interference from the Fed Govt.

The power to run themselves which they lack today with unfunded mandates layed on em by the Fed Govt.

The Fed Govt has its uses but running the States isn't one of em.

 

[Mr. H.]

Total Pubcrappe- production has never been higher and safer. Your brain is FOS, dupe. Take the Keystone pipe line- it's coming, of course, and it was the Pub Gov. of Nebraska who stopped it, not Obama.That's just the beginning of THAT tidal wave of fear mongering BULLSHYTTE.

Safer, no. And that is thanks to industry, not Obama.
Higher- hell yes. It's been much higher. And the recent uptrend in domestic production is also no thanks to Obama.

And if a Governor- no matter what party affiliation- can stop a project such as Keystone XL, then a Governor should have the right to allow drilling in its State's waters. Obama is usurping States' rights for his own twisted agenda.

States don't have the "rights" you folks seem to think they have..at least not constitutionally. Case law..however..has been "usurping" constitutional supremacy, incrementally since the civil war and to the determent of the Union and the rights of citizens.

The whole Keystone argument is another red herring basically brought to you by the power oil lobbyists and republicans bent on embarrassing Obama. Obama was in no way trying to kill the deal. He should of..because oil companies seem bent on squeezing every penny of profit out of these things as possible..with no regard to people and or communities. Missouri's Kalamazoo river is a prime example of that..where there was a tar sand oil spill..and the oil company didn't have a fucking clue as to how to clean it up.

Michael Brune: We Are the Kalamazoo

Good points, but your patent "with no regard to people and or communities" is a bit of a stretch. It's like saying the federal government has no regard to people and or communities because of unsafe roads, bridges, and other infrastructure.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Racism doesn't mean what you think it means. Because it's not possible to be a racist and a liberal at the same time.

Of course it is because you people who call yourselves "liberals" today are not liberals. You're Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and authoritarians who have hijacked the word and made it mean something it's never was.

 

[Sallow]

Racism doesn't mean what you think it means. Because it's not possible to be a racist and a liberal at the same time.

Of course it is because you people who call yourselves "liberals" today are not liberals. You're Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and authoritarians who have hijacked the word and made it mean something it's never was.

Says a fascist scumbag who really knows nothing better then to hate his fellow man.

But don't you worry none, I won't taz ya bro..

You are entitled to hate who you want.

 

[SillyWabbit]

Racism doesn't mean what you think it means. Because it's not possible to be a racist and a liberal at the same time.

Of course it is because you people who call yourselves "liberals" today are not liberals. You're Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and authoritarians who have hijacked the word and made it mean something it's never was.

Says a fascist scumbag who really knows nothing better then to hate his fellow man.

But don't you worry none, I won't taz ya bro..

You are entitled to hate who you want.

Yes, yes I am.

Can I hate a thing?

My balding, flaking scalp. There, I've said it: I hate the skin that flakes off my nasty head.

I generally don't hate people. I also have a hard time putting together a paragraph (and the proper use of tenses) (tenses?). Such is life.

Sallow?

Whut? The one thing has nothing to do with the other.