Romney deliberately lost election

[MisterBeale]

About 20 or so years ago that went on alot in this really strange place.

It was called congress.

When the work was done? The boys would call it a day and head out to the local watering hole.

There were no enemies after 5pm.

Mormons don't drink

According to Liberation Theology, (of which the POTUS counts himself a member) White men are the bane and cause of the misery of the colored man's existence.

Your explanations as to why these two men would be meeting with an executive member of the Church of Rome does not make any sense. Are they meeting just for shits and giggles? Not unless they were both sell outs to everything they believed and happened to be courting the belief of this man's organization.

(Note, both the bishop, and Romney are flush, signs that they have been drinking.) Although drinking is allowed in Catholicism, it is not allowed among Mormons.

But I don't have to tell a member of the Jesuits or Opus Dei that, do I?

 

[Mojo2]

For the intellectual content of your post ---

You are being too charitable.

There IS no intellectual content in that post.

 

[dcraelin]

For the intellectual content of your post ---

You are being too charitable.

There IS no intellectual content in that post.

no one knows who your talking about when you dont identify the post your talking about

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Romney deliberately lost election to protect insurance companies and Romney/Obama care

the 2-party system is a fraud

the two-party system is a fraud/fascism but I think he wanted to win nonetheless.

 

[dcraelin]

now we are seeing the major media tell us Romney might run yet again.

Yes I guess the establishment lost their main patsy Christy and may yet pull Romney's puppet strings one more time.

It seems to me they are running Cruz as a shill against Paul

 

[jillian]

Romney deliberately lost election to protect insurance companies and Romney/Obama care

the 2-party system is a fraud

lol… nice baseless conspiracy theory.

 

[dcraelin]

Romney deliberately lost election to protect insurance companies and Romney/Obama care
the 2-party system is a fraud

lol… nice baseless conspiracy theory.

Its based on idea that Romney-care and Obama-care are the same thing really, and that either way Romney got his name in the history books.

Also what do you think of idea that Cruz is posing as a shill against Paul fro the establishment.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I think the election was rigged, and not cos of Romney. Obama had ballot box stuffers in every single swing state. And that's why none of them were even close. It's really sad that rigging a presidential election is that easy in this day and age.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Romney deliberately lost election to protect insurance companies and Romney/Obama care
the 2-party system is a fraud

lol… nice baseless conspiracy theory.

Its based on idea that Romney-care and Obama-care are the same thing really, and that either way Romney got his name in the history books.

Also what do you think of idea that Cruz is posing as a shill against Paul fro the establishment.

You really think Romney cared about being the guy who got his name in the history books as the guy who didn't win? Do some research, and you'll see that Romney gave up a lot of fortune and time that he could have been using for himself. I don't feel like Romney had the great principles that Ron Paul has. But I do think he wanted to make a real (good) difference. That's far from what Obama is. Obama is the most vain person we could have ever elected.

 

[dcraelin]

lol… nice baseless conspiracy theory.

Its based on idea that Romney-care and Obama-care are the same thing really, and that either way Romney got his name in the history books.

Also what do you think of idea that Cruz is posing as a shill against Paul fro the establishment.

You really think Romney cared about being the guy who got his name in the history books as the guy who didn't win? Do some research, and you'll see that Romney gave up a lot of fortune and time that he could have been using for himself. I don't feel like Romney had the great principles that Ron Paul has. But I do think he wanted to make a real (good) difference. That's far from what Obama is. Obama is the most vain person we could have ever elected.

well in a way I agree with you, but it probably meant more to him to get his idea....i.e. Romney/Obamacare...passed, than it did to win. He ran interference in the GOP primary where everyone else was hostile to Obama/Romneycare.

As I think I said below somewhere I believe he was actually still being paid by BAin capital...for what?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Its based on idea that Romney-care and Obama-care are the same thing really, and that either way Romney got his name in the history books.

Also what do you think of idea that Cruz is posing as a shill against Paul fro the establishment.

You really think Romney cared about being the guy who got his name in the history books as the guy who didn't win? Do some research, and you'll see that Romney gave up a lot of fortune and time that he could have been using for himself. I don't feel like Romney had the great principles that Ron Paul has. But I do think he wanted to make a real (good) difference. That's far from what Obama is. Obama is the most vain person we could have ever elected.

well in a way I agree with you, but it probably meant more to him to get his idea....i.e. Romney/Obamacare...passed, than it did to win. He ran interference in the GOP primary where everyone else was hostile to Obama/Romneycare.

As I think I said below somewhere I believe he was actually still being paid by BAin capital...for what?

There are signifcant differences between Romney-care and Obama-care. And yes, Romney-care reflects the socialist mindset of the very liberal Massachusetts. But Obama-care is a total scam and unconstitutional no matter what the bought and paid for Supreme Court says.

It's a fun conspiracy theory; but Romney did not lose the election on purpose. He has too much character for that.

 

[dcraelin]

You really think Romney cared about being the guy who got his name in the history books as the guy who didn't win? Do some research, and you'll see that Romney gave up a lot of fortune and time that he could have been using for himself. I don't feel like Romney had the great principles that Ron Paul has. But I do think he wanted to make a real (good) difference. That's far from what Obama is. Obama is the most vain person we could have ever elected.

well in a way I agree with you, but it probably meant more to him to get his idea....i.e. Romney/Obamacare...passed, than it did to win. He ran interference in the GOP primary where everyone else was hostile to Obama/Romneycare.

As I think I said below somewhere I believe he was actually still being paid by BAin capital...for what?

There are signifcant differences between Romney-care and Obama-care. And yes, Romney-care reflects the socialist mindset of the very liberal Massachusetts. But Obama-care is a total scam and unconstitutional no matter what the bought and paid for Supreme Court says.

It's a fun conspiracy theory; but Romney did not lose the election on purpose. He has too much character for that.

too much character!!! he ran Bain capital....read "america what went wrong" I believe is the title...a book that talks about all the little gimmicks in the law and tax-code that these kind of businesses used to basically rob take-over targets...especially pension funds...in these buyouts.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

well in a way I agree with you, but it probably meant more to him to get his idea....i.e. Romney/Obamacare...passed, than it did to win. He ran interference in the GOP primary where everyone else was hostile to Obama/Romneycare.

As I think I said below somewhere I believe he was actually still being paid by BAin capital...for what?

There are signifcant differences between Romney-care and Obama-care. And yes, Romney-care reflects the socialist mindset of the very liberal Massachusetts. But Obama-care is a total scam and unconstitutional no matter what the bought and paid for Supreme Court says.

It's a fun conspiracy theory; but Romney did not lose the election on purpose. He has too much character for that.

too much character!!! he ran Bain capital....read "america what went wrong" I believe is the title...a book that talks about all the little gimmicks in the law and tax-code that these kind of businesses used to basically rob take-over targets...especially pension funds...in these buyouts.

Pensions? Really companies use 401Ks that belong to the employees. Pensions and the associated laws are a joke.

 

[dcraelin]

There are signifcant differences between Romney-care and Obama-care. And yes, Romney-care reflects the socialist mindset of the very liberal Massachusetts. But Obama-care is a total scam and unconstitutional no matter what the bought and paid for Supreme Court says.

It's a fun conspiracy theory; but Romney did not lose the election on purpose. He has too much character for that.

too much character!!! he ran Bain capital....read "america what went wrong" I believe is the title...a book that talks about all the little gimmicks in the law and tax-code that these kind of businesses used to basically rob take-over targets...especially pension funds...in these buyouts.

Pensions? Really companies use 401Ks that belong to the employees. Pensions and the associated laws are a joke.

they were compensation promised to employees

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

too much character!!! he ran Bain capital....read "america what went wrong" I believe is the title...a book that talks about all the little gimmicks in the law and tax-code that these kind of businesses used to basically rob take-over targets...especially pension funds...in these buyouts.

Pensions? Really companies use 401Ks that belong to the employees. Pensions and the associated laws are a joke.

they were compensation promised to employees

Again, pensions are constantly being changed. And usually they're bloated and that leads to a company's demise in the first place. I'm not shedding a tear for people who knowingly participate in f'd up systems. Again, 401Ks are real accounts. Pensions are wishes and prayers.

And in the second place, Romney went to companies who presumably can't pay the pensions once they've went bankrupt. It's not his job to pay bloated pensions out of the goodness of his heart.

 

[dcraelin]

Pensions? Really companies use 401Ks that belong to the employees. Pensions and the associated laws are a joke.

they were compensation promised to employees

Again, pensions are constantly being changed. And usually they're bloated and that leads to a company's demise in the first place. I'm not shedding a tear for people who knowingly participate in f'd up systems. Again, 401Ks are real accounts. Pensions are wishes and prayers.

And in the second place, Romney went to companies who presumably can't pay the pensions once they've went bankrupt. It's not his job to pay bloated pensions out of the goodness of his heart.

people certainly dont "knowingly participate in F'd up systems"....they were made a promise, a promise that should be kept.....if a company goes bankrupt they should be the first obligations in line to be paid. Any money borrowed from them, in some purported "turnaround" should also be an obligation.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

they were compensation promised to employees

Again, pensions are constantly being changed. And usually they're bloated and that leads to a company's demise in the first place. I'm not shedding a tear for people who knowingly participate in f'd up systems. Again, 401Ks are real accounts. Pensions are wishes and prayers.

And in the second place, Romney went to companies who presumably can't pay the pensions once they've went bankrupt. It's not his job to pay bloated pensions out of the goodness of his heart.

people certainly dont "knowingly participate in F'd up systems"....they were made a promise, a promise that should be kept.....if a company goes bankrupt they should be the first obligations in line to be paid. Any money borrowed from them, in some purported "turnaround" should also be an obligation.

People knowingly participate in f'd up systems all the time. Just look at social security and medicare. They just pray the bubble doesn't burst. Look at pension laws, they are promises. They are not the sound systems you want to make them out to be. These employees could have done 401Ks and they chose to try to milk their companies. They took a risk and it failed.

 

[dcraelin]

Again, pensions are constantly being changed. And usually they're bloated and that leads to a company's demise in the first place. I'm not shedding a tear for people who knowingly participate in f'd up systems. Again, 401Ks are real accounts. Pensions are wishes and prayers.

And in the second place, Romney went to companies who presumably can't pay the pensions once they've went bankrupt. It's not his job to pay bloated pensions out of the goodness of his heart.

people certainly dont "knowingly participate in F'd up systems"....they were made a promise, a promise that should be kept.....if a company goes bankrupt they should be the first obligations in line to be paid. Any money borrowed from them, in some purported "turnaround" should also be an obligation.

People knowingly participate in f'd up systems all the time. Just look at social security and medicare. They just pray the bubble doesn't burst. Look at pension laws, they are promises. They are not the sound systems you want to make them out to be. These employees could have done 401Ks and they chose to try to milk their companies. They took a risk and it failed.

I think what they really did was in effect sign a contract that was broken by the companies.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

people certainly dont "knowingly participate in F'd up systems"....they were made a promise, a promise that should be kept.....if a company goes bankrupt they should be the first obligations in line to be paid. Any money borrowed from them, in some purported "turnaround" should also be an obligation.

People knowingly participate in f'd up systems all the time. Just look at social security and medicare. They just pray the bubble doesn't burst. Look at pension laws, they are promises. They are not the sound systems you want to make them out to be. These employees could have done 401Ks and they chose to try to milk their companies. They took a risk and it failed.

I think what they really did was in effect sign a contract that was broken by the companies.

What often happens is they leverage themselves right into bankruptcy. Happens all the time. Making Romney the villain isn't going to change that reality.

 

[dcraelin]

People knowingly participate in f'd up systems all the time. Just look at social security and medicare. They just pray the bubble doesn't burst. Look at pension laws, they are promises. They are not the sound systems you want to make them out to be. These employees could have done 401Ks and they chose to try to milk their companies. They took a risk and it failed.

I think what they really did was in effect sign a contract that was broken by the companies.

What often happens is they leverage themselves right into bankruptcy. Happens all the time. Making Romney the villain isn't going to change that reality.

I dont have to make him a villain, he made himself one. And I think he was the perfect foil for Obamas run. The country was rightfully upset with crooked bankers and scum wheeler-dealers like Romney. The money manipulators behind the scenes thought theyd throw up a shill everyone would love to hate...in order to get another patsy into office.


And I think they're gong to do it again.......Hillary is a sure loser......a proven loser......so she is blocking any halfway, partially legitimate democrat......Cruz has the rhetoric of an outsider but the resume of an insider,...so he is the shill blocking Paul. And Christy is busy making the rounds "redeeming" himself courtesy of the networks, to be the next financial patsy president.