Roger Ailes of FOX on ABC

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    Roger Ailes the Big Wig @ FOX, says Obama is very likable.


    Roger also said 300 million Americans are happy with the health care plans they have. Roger was talking about how the health care proposals put forward to insure the 30 million Americans without health care, would 'upset' the happy 'apple cart' that is the current health care system Americans currently have.

    nuts!
     
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    Hes also not an American is he?
     
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    This is in Politics and not Media or Current Events because though I like Ailes as an individual and I find him funny, almost every utterance he issues is tainted with a fair and balanced dose of politics.

    he was asked a question and answered the FOX was fair and balaced and then he used the tag line of ABC. LOL
     
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    Oh my bad that is his boss whos not an American.

    He was a media consultant for Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George H. W. Bush, as well as Rudy Giuliani’s first mayoral campaign in 1989
     
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    Actually, Dainty, what he argued was that while about 300 million are happy or satisfied with their current health plans, roughly 30 million are not. He then suggested that it makes little sense to upset the apple cart of those who are happy or satisfied to attend to the 30 million who are not. He said that what we need to do is attend to the 30 million.

    That whining dishonest moron Krugman didn't disagree with the figures, he just falsely claimed that such was the "plan" proffered by President Obama. :cuckoo:

    It's difficult for your endless willingness to lie to gain traction when others were able to see -- and thus refute -- your false claims about such things.

    Poor you.
     
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    Why not ask these people...oh, they're DEAD...

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    New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | HarvardScience

    Uninsured, working-age Americans have 40 percent higher death risk than privately insured counterparts
    September 17, 2009
    David Cecere
    Cambridge Health Alliance

    Nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

    The study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

    “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors, and baseline health,” said lead author Andrew Wilper, M.D., who currently teaches at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

    The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking into account education, income, and many other factors, including smoking, drinking, and obesity. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

    Previous estimates from the IOM and others had put that figure near 18,000. The methods used in the current study were similar to those employed by the IOM in 2002, which in turn were based on a pioneering 1993 study of health insurance and mortality.

    Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease. An increase in the number of uninsured and an eroding medical safety net for the disadvantaged likely explain the substantial increase in the number of deaths, as the uninsured are more likely to go without needed care. Another factor contributing to the widening gap in the risk of death between those who have insurance and those who do not is the improved quality of care for those who can get it.

    The researchers analyzed U.S. adults under age 65 who participated in the annual National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys (NHANES) between 1986 and 1994. Respondents first answered detailed questions about their socioeconomic status and health and were then examined by physicians. The CDC tracked study participants to see who died by 2000.

    The study found a 40 percent increased risk of death among the uninsured. As expected, death rates were also higher for males (37 percent increase), current or former smokers (102 percent and 42 percent increases), people who said that their health was fair or poor (126 percent increase), and those who examining physicians said were in fair or poor health (222 percent increase).
     
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    Some undergrad thsis guided by his academic God of elite liberal progressives

    blech
     
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    Speculative BS driven by political agendas funded by tax dollars
     
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    Zzzz.

    You have identified a segment of the population (about 30 million) whose needs are included in the group that do require attention. This is not contrary in the slightest to what Ailes said, you plodding polemicist.

    What is not needed (in order to validly attend to those such as the group to which you make reference) is to fuck around with the plans of those 300 million that adequately work.

    And, lest we forget the point: Dainty, in his typical dishonesty, still deliberately distorted what Ailes had said.
     
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    Got it all figured out 'eh pea brain?
     

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