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ST. LOUIS -- From sunken steamboats to a millennium-old map engraved in rock, the drought-drained rivers of the nation's midsection are offering a rare and fleeting glimpse into years gone by.
Lack of rain has left many rivers at low levels unseen for decades, creating problems for river commerce and recreation and raising concerns about water supplies and hydropower if the drought persists into next year, as many fear.
US Drought Monitor
Historical level flooding in 2011, major drought in 2012. In May of 2012, the Mississippi recorded an all time high. Now it is at an all time low.
Wider and wilder, with an overall warming.
Colby Buchanan, US Coast Guard, via AP
The drought revealed this WWII minesweeper, seen here on Nov. 28 on the Mississippi River near St. Louis, Mo.
By Jim Salter, The Associated Press
Read more @ River relics in central US surface as drought drops water levels - U.S. NewsST. LOUIS -- From sunken steamboats to a millennium-old map engraved in rock, the drought-drained rivers of the nation's midsection are offering a rare and fleeting glimpse into years gone by.
Lack of rain has left many rivers at low levels unseen for decades, creating problems for river commerce and recreation and raising concerns about water supplies and hydropower if the drought persists into next year, as many fear.
Colby Buchanan, US Coast Guard, via AP
The drought revealed this WWII minesweeper, seen here on Nov. 28 on the Mississippi River near St. Louis, Mo.
By Jim Salter, The Associated Press
Read more @ River relics in central US surface as drought drops water levels - U.S. NewsST. LOUIS -- From sunken steamboats to a millennium-old map engraved in rock, the drought-drained rivers of the nation's midsection are offering a rare and fleeting glimpse into years gone by.
Lack of rain has left many rivers at low levels unseen for decades, creating problems for river commerce and recreation and raising concerns about water supplies and hydropower if the drought persists into next year, as many fear.
How cool is that? Gave me a chill.The rock contains etchings believed to be up to 1,200 years old. It was not in the river a millennium ago, but the changing course of the waterway now normally puts it under water exposed only in periods of extreme drought.
"It appears to be a map of prehistoric Indian villages," said Steve Dasovich, an anthropology professor at Lindenwood University in St. Charles. "What's really fascinating is that it shows village sites we don't yet know about."
Republicans say "let it die". No spending on infrastructure. We do nothing. That will "save money".
US Drought Monitor
Historical level flooding in 2011, major drought in 2012. In May of 2012, the Mississippi recorded an all time high. Now it is at an all time low.
Wider and wilder, with an overall warming.
ya cause of course it never happened before right?
ya cause of course it never happened before right?
Of course it has happened before. But when floods of a scale that typically only happened once a millenium, begin happening every couple of decades, and floods that more typically only happened once a century begin happening every few years, it is indicative of dramatic climate change.
Colby Buchanan, US Coast Guard, via AP
The drought revealed this WWII minesweeper, seen here on Nov. 28 on the Mississippi River near St. Louis, Mo.
By Jim Salter, The Associated Press
Read more @ River relics in central US surface as drought drops water levels - U.S. NewsHow cool is that? Gave me a chill.The rock contains etchings believed to be up to 1,200 years old. It was not in the river a millennium ago, but the changing course of the waterway now normally puts it under water — exposed only in periods of extreme drought.
"It appears to be a map of prehistoric Indian villages," said Steve Dasovich, an anthropology professor at Lindenwood University in St. Charles. "What's really fascinating is that it shows village sites we don't yet know about."
Wow! There is so much we do not know about that culture, if we can find a relatively undisturbed site from these maps, it would be absolutely wonderful.
ya cause of course it never happened before right?
Of course it has happened before. But when floods of a scale that typically only happened once a millenium, begin happening every couple of decades, and floods that more typically only happened once a century begin happening every few years, it is indicative of dramatic climate change.
How do we know they only happened once a millennium when we've only been hear 200 - 300 years?
Republicans say "let it die". No spending on infrastructure. We do nothing. That will "save money".
What "infrastructure" do we need to "spend" "money" on to increase rainfall?
Be "specific".
Of course it has happened before. But when floods of a scale that typically only happened once a millenium, begin happening every couple of decades, and floods that more typically only happened once a century begin happening every few years, it is indicative of dramatic climate change.
How do we know they only happened once a millennium when we've only been hear 200 - 300 years?
By dating sediment layers indicating extremely flooding events over the last few hundreds of thousands of years, primarily.
Republicans say "let it die". No spending on infrastructure. We do nothing. That will "save money".
What "infrastructure" do we need to "spend" "money" on to increase rainfall?
Be "specific".
That's called "tiny thinking". No imagination.
Our country has oceans of water on both sides. Scientists have looked at everything from desalination to moving icebergs.
Desalination: Drink a cup of seawater? - US Geological Survey
Recently, considerable attention has been given to the use of renewable energy as sources for desalination, especially in remote areas and islands, because of the high costs of fossil fuels, difficulties in obtaining it, attempts to conserve fossil fuels, interest in reducing air pollution, and the lack of electrical power in remote areas.
Simulation shows it
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2008/R1255.pdf
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Take wind energy or solar energy. Instead of using them for "houses", imagine using them for removing salt from ocean water on a large scale.
There is a lot science and technology can do. Things that are already being used. They will require infrastructure investment and investment in science, education and technology and will require government working with business and universities.
But this will never happen with Republicans who think government should be shrunk so small you can drown it in a bathtub and education is for snobs and science is a "faith".
Look at Rick Perry, praying for rain in a stadium hoping with more voices, God will "take notice". Give me a break. That's how Republicans approach problems.
Office of the Governor Rick Perry - [Proclamation] Gov. Perry Issues Proclamation for Days of Prayer for Rain in Texas
What "infrastructure" do we need to "spend" "money" on to increase rainfall?
Be "specific".
That's called "tiny thinking". No imagination.
Our country has oceans of water on both sides. Scientists have looked at everything from desalination to moving icebergs.
Desalination: Drink a cup of seawater? - US Geological Survey
Recently, considerable attention has been given to the use of renewable energy as sources for desalination, especially in remote areas and islands, because of the high costs of fossil fuels, difficulties in obtaining it, attempts to conserve fossil fuels, interest in reducing air pollution, and the lack of electrical power in remote areas.
Simulation shows it
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2008/R1255.pdf
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Take wind energy or solar energy. Instead of using them for "houses", imagine using them for removing salt from ocean water on a large scale.
There is a lot science and technology can do. Things that are already being used. They will require infrastructure investment and investment in science, education and technology and will require government working with business and universities.
But this will never happen with Republicans who think government should be shrunk so small you can drown it in a bathtub and education is for snobs and science is a "faith".
Look at Rick Perry, praying for rain in a stadium hoping with more voices, God will "take notice". Give me a break. That's how Republicans approach problems.
Office of the Governor Rick Perry - [Proclamation] Gov. Perry Issues Proclamation for Days of Prayer for Rain in Texas
How will "desalination" refill the "Mississippi" River to cover the "relics" again and make it "passable" for "barge" traffic?
What is your "plan" to get the "massive" amount of ocean "water" needed to the "Midwest"?
That's called "tiny thinking". No imagination.
Our country has oceans of water on both sides. Scientists have looked at everything from desalination to moving icebergs.
Desalination: Drink a cup of seawater? - US Geological Survey
Recently, considerable attention has been given to the use of renewable energy as sources for desalination, especially in remote areas and islands, because of the high costs of fossil fuels, difficulties in obtaining it, attempts to conserve fossil fuels, interest in reducing air pollution, and the lack of electrical power in remote areas.
Simulation shows it
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2008/R1255.pdf
------------------------------------------------------------
Take wind energy or solar energy. Instead of using them for "houses", imagine using them for removing salt from ocean water on a large scale.
There is a lot science and technology can do. Things that are already being used. They will require infrastructure investment and investment in science, education and technology and will require government working with business and universities.
But this will never happen with Republicans who think government should be shrunk so small you can drown it in a bathtub and education is for snobs and science is a "faith".
Look at Rick Perry, praying for rain in a stadium hoping with more voices, God will "take notice". Give me a break. That's how Republicans approach problems.
Office of the Governor Rick Perry - [Proclamation] Gov. Perry Issues Proclamation for Days of Prayer for Rain in Texas
How will "desalination" refill the "Mississippi" River to cover the "relics" again and make it "passable" for "barge" traffic?
What is your "plan" to get the "massive" amount of ocean "water" needed to the "Midwest"?
We get "massive amounts" of oil from place to place. Why not massive amounts of water? We use things called "pipelines".
Besides, we can build railroads. The important thing is to get water to the "bread basket" of America. Without food, we starve. Did that have to be explained?
Republicans say "let it die". No spending on infrastructure. We do nothing. That will "save money".
Republicans say "let it die". No spending on infrastructure. We do nothing. That will "save money".
And democrats say spend, spend, spend like money grows on trees, we can always print more until it isn't worth piss in the wind and our country goes bankrupt.
STFU moron.
