RIP - Tonight 21 Dec 1988

Tonight 21 December in 1988 this 30 years at 19.03PM Pan Am Flight 103 plane crashed in Lockerbie, Scotland, an act of Radical Islamic Terrorism.

The result 243 passengers and 16 Flight Crew on the plane perished and 11 innocents from Lockerbie perished on the grounds in their houses this include the entire family of Jack and Rosalind Somerville and their children Paul and Lynsey, who perished as their house exploded in a direct hit from part of the Pan Am plane.

A friend email me the below documentary it is Lockerbie as it occur minute by minute from when the explosive device entered Pan Am Flight 103 at 17.00PM London Heathrow, the documentary is excellent in construction and also sensitive in the way it deals with this harrowing subject.

The duration of the documentary is 42 minutes and 33 seconds. On this night 30 years later RIP to all who perished in this terrible terrorist attack in the plane and also the inhabitants of Lockerbie who also perished on this night.



Thanks for the link Oosie. An event worth review to be sure.

However the two posts after yours exhibit how you crippled the topic with the "Islamic terrorism" song and dance, simply because you presume Moammar Ghaddafi was Muslim. Does that mean the IRA that Ghaddafi supplied weapons to were fomenting "Christian terrorism"? It must mean that --- by your own standard. After all if we're going to Composition-Fallacy whatever religion coincides with an act of terrorism, that's where you're left.

Of course, in the world of reality, the motives of both Ghaddafi and the IRA were political. Stop running away from that.


I post this OP to remember the night of December 21 1988, to remember all the innocents who perished that night 30 years ago I have no political comment if so I would post this OP in Politics and not General Discussion. It is correct that Pan Am Flight 103 was perpetrated by Libyans this I can not change and so you also can not change that you ogo do not like that Pan Am Flight 103 was perpetrated by Libyans who are Muslim and not Non Muslim and you want to deflect onto things different this Christian is unfortunate and Lockerbie had zero to do with the IRA and also I am not responsible for others posts posted in this thread by other members.


That's quite a word salad going nowhere.

Perhaps you'd like to explain how this act was NOT perpetrated by geopolitics and power hunger and acts of revenge for perceived past slights, but rather "Islam did it". After that please feel free to explain how the IRA worked the same types of violence out of the same political fanaticism and acts of revenge for perceived past slights and how "that's different".

In coherent English, bitte.

I well remember all the heightened security especially in Britain while the IRA was active. What I don't remember is anyone anywhere ever referring to it as "Christianic terrorism".


The IRA did not do Lockerbie ogo, this is not an IRA thread. In many ways ALL acts of terrorism are acts of revenge for something the perpetrators think needs revenged.
 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.
 
Tonight 21 December in 1988 this 30 years at 19.03PM Pan Am Flight 103 plane crashed in Lockerbie, Scotland, an act of Radical Islamic Terrorism.

The result 243 passengers and 16 Flight Crew on the plane perished and 11 innocents from Lockerbie perished on the grounds in their houses this include the entire family of Jack and Rosalind Somerville and their children Paul and Lynsey, who perished as their house exploded in a direct hit from part of the Pan Am plane.

A friend email me the below documentary it is Lockerbie as it occur minute by minute from when the explosive device entered Pan Am Flight 103 at 17.00PM London Heathrow, the documentary is excellent in construction and also sensitive in the way it deals with this harrowing subject.

The duration of the documentary is 42 minutes and 33 seconds. On this night 30 years later RIP to all who perished in this terrible terrorist attack in the plane and also the inhabitants of Lockerbie who also perished on this night.



Thanks for the link Oosie. An event worth review to be sure.

However the two posts after yours exhibit how you crippled the topic with the "Islamic terrorism" song and dance, simply because you presume Moammar Ghaddafi was Muslim. Does that mean the IRA that Ghaddafi supplied weapons to were fomenting "Christian terrorism"? It must mean that --- by your own standard. After all if we're going to Composition-Fallacy whatever religion coincides with an act of terrorism, that's where you're left.

Of course, in the world of reality, the motives of both Ghaddafi and the IRA were political. Stop running away from that.


I post this OP to remember the night of December 21 1988, to remember all the innocents who perished that night 30 years ago I have no political comment if so I would post this OP in Politics and not General Discussion. It is correct that Pan Am Flight 103 was perpetrated by Libyans this I can not change and so you also can not change that you ogo do not like that Pan Am Flight 103 was perpetrated by Libyans who are Muslim and not Non Muslim and you want to deflect onto things different this Christian is unfortunate and Lockerbie had zero to do with the IRA and also I am not responsible for others posts posted in this thread by other members.


That's quite a word salad going nowhere.

Perhaps you'd like to explain how this act was NOT perpetrated by geopolitics and power hunger and acts of revenge for perceived past slights, but rather "Islam did it". After that please feel free to explain how the IRA worked the same types of violence out of the same political fanaticism and acts of revenge for perceived past slights and how "that's different".

In coherent English, bitte.

I well remember all the heightened security especially in Britain while the IRA was active. What I don't remember is anyone anywhere ever referring to it as "Christianic terrorism".


The IRA did not do Lockerbie ogo, this is not an IRA thread. In many ways ALL acts of terrorism are acts of revenge for something the perpetrators think needs revenged.


So you won't address the question.

Why I brought it up is that it's irresponsible on your part. You're smart enough to know better but the two posters who followed your OP obviously are not. Ergo you enabled them to pick up your fallacy and run with it. And all that does is perpetuate the same fallacy. You know better than that.
 

Bizarro the pictures and they are all dead, they look so alive and happy. One picture is of The Ten Bells Pub this is associated with Jack The Ripper two victims Annie Chapman and Mary Kelly were both last seen alive in The Ten Bells Pub.
Not all in the pictures are dead. From the link:

"The panels seek to accentuate the life that was lived, not the tragedy that followed. No one is personally identified as a victim or a survivor. They all appear as a group, the way they were then and still are in our collective minds and hearts."
 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.


Why do you think the US Military would shoot that plane down? The Payne Stewart plane crash was very bizarro. I think the US Military was going to shoot that plane down or it was discussed, Military Jets were following his plane, the Payne Stewart plane crashed when it ran out of fuel, there was some compression explosion in the cockpit that took out the pilot and co pilot, the plane flew many many distances almost in a straight line and then dropped from the sky and crashed.
 
Tonight 21 December in 1988 this 30 years at 19.03PM Pan Am Flight 103 plane crashed in Lockerbie, Scotland, an act of Radical Islamic Terrorism.

The result 243 passengers and 16 Flight Crew on the plane perished and 11 innocents from Lockerbie perished on the grounds in their houses this include the entire family of Jack and Rosalind Somerville and their children Paul and Lynsey, who perished as their house exploded in a direct hit from part of the Pan Am plane.

A friend email me the below documentary it is Lockerbie as it occur minute by minute from when the explosive device entered Pan Am Flight 103 at 17.00PM London Heathrow, the documentary is excellent in construction and also sensitive in the way it deals with this harrowing subject.

The duration of the documentary is 42 minutes and 33 seconds. On this night 30 years later RIP to all who perished in this terrible terrorist attack in the plane and also the inhabitants of Lockerbie who also perished on this night.



Thanks for the link Oosie. An event worth review to be sure.

However the two posts after yours exhibit how you crippled the topic with the "Islamic terrorism" song and dance, simply because you presume Moammar Ghaddafi was Muslim. Does that mean the IRA that Ghaddafi supplied weapons to were fomenting "Christian terrorism"? It must mean that --- by your own standard. After all if we're going to Composition-Fallacy whatever religion coincides with an act of terrorism, that's where you're left.

Of course, in the world of reality, the motives of both Ghaddafi and the IRA were political. Stop running away from that.


I post this OP to remember the night of December 21 1988, to remember all the innocents who perished that night 30 years ago I have no political comment if so I would post this OP in Politics and not General Discussion. It is correct that Pan Am Flight 103 was perpetrated by Libyans this I can not change and so you also can not change that you ogo do not like that Pan Am Flight 103 was perpetrated by Libyans who are Muslim and not Non Muslim and you want to deflect onto things different this Christian is unfortunate and Lockerbie had zero to do with the IRA and also I am not responsible for others posts posted in this thread by other members.


That's quite a word salad going nowhere.

Perhaps you'd like to explain how this act was NOT perpetrated by geopolitics and power hunger and acts of revenge for perceived past slights, but rather "Islam did it". After that please feel free to explain how the IRA worked the same types of violence out of the same political fanaticism and acts of revenge for perceived past slights and how "that's different".

In coherent English, bitte.

I well remember all the heightened security especially in Britain while the IRA was active. What I don't remember is anyone anywhere ever referring to it as "Christianic terrorism".


The IRA did not do Lockerbie ogo, this is not an IRA thread. In many ways ALL acts of terrorism are acts of revenge for something the perpetrators think needs revenged.


So you won't address the question.

Why I brought it up is that it's irresponsible on your part. You're smart enough to know better but the two posters who followed your OP obviously are not. Ergo you enabled them to pick up your fallacy and run with it. And all that does is perpetuate the same fallacy. You know better than that.


I already commented that I am not responsible for what other members post.
 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.


Why do you think the US Military would shoot that plane down? The Payne Stewart plane crash was very bizarro. I think the US Military was going to shoot that plane down or it was discussed, Military Jets were following his plane, the Payne Stewart plane crashed when it ran out of fuel, there was some compression explosion in the cockpit that took out the pilot and co pilot, the plane flew many many distances almost in a straight line and then dropped from the sky and crashed.



It was werid we were talking about it at work In illinios has it was happening..


 
Lucy and if you want absolute fucked up shit watch what this guy did




WTF?! Rot In Hell David Burke, he had NO right to take the lives of ALL on that plane he had issues with ONE man on that plane and he murdered ALL on that plane, I hope he is rotting in Hell.
 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.


Why do you think the US Military would shoot that plane down? The Payne Stewart plane crash was very bizarro. I think the US Military was going to shoot that plane down or it was discussed, Military Jets were following his plane, the Payne Stewart plane crashed when it ran out of fuel, there was some compression explosion in the cockpit that took out the pilot and co pilot, the plane flew many many distances almost in a straight line and then dropped from the sky and crashed.



I don't know why I am interested in
this .

But $10 dollar an hour guys warned her , the pilot..


 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.


Why do you think the US Military would shoot that plane down? The Payne Stewart plane crash was very bizarro. I think the US Military was going to shoot that plane down or it was discussed, Military Jets were following his plane, the Payne Stewart plane crashed when it ran out of fuel, there was some compression explosion in the cockpit that took out the pilot and co pilot, the plane flew many many distances almost in a straight line and then dropped from the sky and crashed.



It was werid we were talking about it at work In illinios has it was happening..




Totally bizarro situation that plane, only good thing is that it finally crashed in a field and not in a residential area or worse in a school area or whatever.
 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.


Why do you think the US Military would shoot that plane down? The Payne Stewart plane crash was very bizarro. I think the US Military was going to shoot that plane down or it was discussed, Military Jets were following his plane, the Payne Stewart plane crashed when it ran out of fuel, there was some compression explosion in the cockpit that took out the pilot and co pilot, the plane flew many many distances almost in a straight line and then dropped from the sky and crashed.



I don't know why I am interested in
this .

But $10 dollar an hour guys warned her , the pilot..




That crash was caused by the moron Maintenance Mechanic and the negligent Maintenance Supervisor if you follow the text on the screen and not from having two extra bags on that plane.
 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.


Why do you think the US Military would shoot that plane down? The Payne Stewart plane crash was very bizarro. I think the US Military was going to shoot that plane down or it was discussed, Military Jets were following his plane, the Payne Stewart plane crashed when it ran out of fuel, there was some compression explosion in the cockpit that took out the pilot and co pilot, the plane flew many many distances almost in a straight line and then dropped from the sky and crashed.



I don't know why I am interested in
this .

But $10 dollar an hour guys warned her , the pilot..




That crash was caused by the moron Maintenance Mechanic and the negligent Maintenance Supervisor if you follow the text on the screen and not from having two extra bags on that plane.



 


With these videos you think that Pan Am Flight 103 was not a bomb it was pilot error and/or plane mechanical error? It was a bomb bear, a bomb put into a radio that detonated mid air and exploded the plane.



Oh I know it was a bomb, I am still pissed off about flight 800 it was clearly a bomb or US military shooting it down..

Fuel tanks don't explode


.


Why do you think the US Military would shoot that plane down? The Payne Stewart plane crash was very bizarro. I think the US Military was going to shoot that plane down or it was discussed, Military Jets were following his plane, the Payne Stewart plane crashed when it ran out of fuel, there was some compression explosion in the cockpit that took out the pilot and co pilot, the plane flew many many distances almost in a straight line and then dropped from the sky and crashed.



I don't know why I am interested in
this .

But $10 dollar an hour guys warned her , the pilot..




That crash was caused by the moron Maintenance Mechanic and the negligent Maintenance Supervisor if you follow the text on the screen and not from having two extra bags on that plane.



I love how educated you are ..


.( Street smart)


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