Right Wing Posters! What are your REAL expectations for Nov 2nd?

[The Rabbi]

Business will start to recover in earnest with no bullshit, "Saved or created" metrics.

As the 2 year long Progressive artillery barrage on American business comes to an end, US Entrepreneurs (God bless them, you can never keep them down) start leaving the safety of their foxholes and bomb shelters and start getting back to hiring, expanding and figuring out ways to make stuff better and cheaper.

But if there is gridlock and no laws pass then the recovery will be due to what was in effect before the gridlock, so how can the GOP take credit for the recovery? They will, of course, but by what rationalization will they say that what they DID caused the recovery when they did nothing especially if doing nothing causes the Bush tax increases to take effect?

And there you have it, Ladies and Germs. The narrative for the upcoming election 2012: The GOP did nothing and obstructed the Dems. The Dems managed somehow to pass legislation. The economy recovered BECAUSE the GOP was out of power. Vote for more socialism.

Unfortunately that might actually work on voters. It's completely wrong of course. The reality is:
The Democratic program and rhetoric destroyed the economy. The massive spending created fears of furthe tax increases down the road to pay for it. The new and burdensome regulatory schemes combined with the most anti-business rhetoric since FDR caused businesses to rethink any expansion. The GOP's coming to power will assure business that no new taxes or regulations will be levied and the Democratic program is basically dead. That will mean businesses can actually plan with some kind of confidence they wont get hit with new taxes, regulations, and/or mandates.

 

[Avatar4321]

My expectations are that the people are going to need to continue eliminate corruption in their lives and govern themselves if they ever want to be free of the ever looming control of government.

 

[Toro]

Here's the thing - business has been hesitant because it has been unsure because of uncertainty regarding healthcare and taxes. However, if the Republicans embark on a scorched-earth campaign against healthcare when they take over the House, that uncertainty will continue.

 

[Toro]

Oh, since you are a loser, anus-face, I'll give you a small assist:

After you stop soiling your panties, try to man up long enough to say something coherent, eh?

The 2009 budget was the last passed under Bush. FY2009 started in October 2008. Tack on another $100 billion in FY2009 passed by Congress under Obama.

 

[jillian]

I'm not a right-winger, but my expectations aren't so optimistic for the short-term.

The Democrats will lose, again. The Republicans will win, again. Nothing will change... again.

you do know the repubs lost in 2006 and 2008, yes??

so what do you mean?

 

[edthecynic]

Hateist, you flaming imbecile, is not a word.

It is also a "lie," you loser, to falsely label (as you tried to do) Conservatives as "fascists."

As for your contention that President Obama has not raised the deficit more in two years than his predecessor did in the preceding 8 years, you have to back that shit up, not just spew your usual opinion-as-fact crap.

Even if it's not correct, by the way, which is not certain, that wouldn't make it a "lie," necessarily. An erroneous assertion is not always a "lie." One can be mistaken without having to be deliberately dishonest, you moron.

Now, support your contention, puss.

You first, Hateist.

The lie highlighted in RED was asserted without proof so therefore it can be dismissed without proof.

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."
— Christopher Hitchens

Hateist is still not a word, idiot.

And I didn't MAKE the assertion. You highlighted it and labeled it a "lie."

For it to be a "lie" which IS YOUR claim, stupid, you'd have to show that the statement itself is factually erroneous (which you haven't done and you can't do) AND you'd have to show that the author of that statement KNEW it was untrue when he made that original statement. But, you cannot establish that, either, obviously.

Sorry, anus-face, but as always, you lose.

Oh, since you are a loser, anus-face, I'll give you a small assist:

After you stop soiling your panties, try to man up long enough to say something coherent, eh?

How stupid do you have to be to support a lie with a chart that is a lie????
Just because you pretend not to know you are posting a lie does not mean you are not a liar. It means you are a STUPID lying gossip rather than a PREMEDITATED liar, either way you are a liar.

Your dishonest chart does not include Bush's "OFF BUDGET" DEFICIT SPENDING. The deficit rises with "OFF BUDGET" DEFICIT SPENDING as well as with the on budget deficit spending in your dishonest chart, and your lie did say "raised the deficit." Below is the debt to the penny calculator, with it you can calculate the true deficit spending for any period of time. Plug in the the 8 years of Bush spending and subtract the starting amount from the ending amount. Then plug in Obama's 2 years and do the same. Bush's total deficit will be much higher than Obama's whether you use calendar years, which you would need to claim 2 years for Obama, or fiscal years as shown in your dishonest chart.

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's the thing - business has been hesitant because it has been unsure because of uncertainty regarding healthcare and taxes. However, if the Republicans embark on a scorched-earth campaign against healthcare when they take over the House, that uncertainty will continue.

But they know it won't get any worse, only better.

 

[Jeremy]

I'm not a right-winger, but my expectations aren't so optimistic for the short-term.

The Democrats will lose, again. The Republicans will win, again. Nothing will change... again.

you do know the repubs lost in 2006 and 2008, yes??

so what do you mean?

Probably wasn't refering to a literal cycle by cycle analogy but his point should be easily understood.

 

[edthecynic]

But that law could be passed before the midterm elections that is if the dimocrats actually wanted to not raise taxes.

And technically they're not Bush's tax increases. It is a return to the previously higher tax rates of the Clinton years.

Technically they are Bush's tax increases. It was Bush's tax laws that specified the return to the previously higher tax rates of the extremely prosperous Clinton years of FULL employment.

Bush wanted the tax cuts to be permanent the sunset provision was demanded by the dims.

If you want to blame anyone for the coming tax hikes at least blame the right people.

Yeah and the Slickster also gave us too big to fail banks and the tech bubble don't forget those.

Don't you CON$ ever get tired of lying????

The sunset provision was inserted by the GOP to get both tax bills passed using budget reconciliation, so I did blame the Right people!

 

[Mini 14]

Gridlock is my goal (removing as much power from the democrats as possible, whether it go to the Tea Party, GOP, or Independents). If non-democrats can gain the 40 seats needed in the House, I'd be happy enough, because that would stop the insanity for a couple of years until we can get Obama out of the Whitehouse.

So for me, its a loss control of the House for the democrats, by simple majority.

I'd also expect non-democrats to pick up 4-5 seats in the Senate, setting the table for a total sweep by non-Dems in 2012 of the House, Senate, and the Presidency.

We have to rebuild.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I want the House to either be Republican or so close the Dems have no effective Control. I want the Senate as close as possible also. Anything better is gravy.

We can not continue to spend 50 cents on every dollar as deficit and THAT is what Obama has promised to do and has delivered so far. 3 TRILLION dollars in less then 2 years. The Democrats completely ignored the will of the people and just did what they wanted. That has to stop.

 

[Ame®icano]

But wouldn't that mean that the 2011 Bush tax increases would take effect?

No more taxes levied

did you not read that part?

allowing the tax cuts to expire is tantamount to levying a tax.

The 2011 tax increase was already levied by Bush!
Therefore, a LAW would be needed to be passed to stop the Bush tax increases from kicking in.

Ever heard of Byrd Rule?

 

[Stephanie]

lol, NOTICE they don't call people Republicans-Conservatives, they refer to them as..
Right Wing posters..

What I will expect to see is a lot of lefties wailing and banging their heads against the wall more than they do now.

I'm hoping to see a few, Explode.

 

[Charles_Main]

The 2011 tax increase was already levied by Bush!
Therefore, a LAW would be needed to be passed to stop the Bush tax increases from kicking in.

But that law could be passed before the midterm elections that is if the dimocrats actually wanted to not raise taxes.

And technically they're not Bush's tax increases. It is a return to the previously higher tax rates of the Clinton years.

Technically they are Bush's tax increases. It was Bush's tax laws that specified the return to the previously higher tax rates of the extremely prosperous Clinton years of FULL employment.

Because Democrats threatened to block them unless a sunset was included.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Business will start to recover in earnest with no bullshit, "Saved or created" metrics.

As the 2 year long Progressive artillery barrage on American business comes to an end, US Entrepreneurs (God bless them, you can never keep them down) start leaving the safety of their foxholes and bomb shelters and start getting back to hiring, expanding and figuring out ways to make stuff better and cheaper.

But if there is gridlock and no laws pass then the recovery will be due to what was in effect before the gridlock, so how can the GOP take credit for the recovery? They will, of course, but by what rationalization will they say that what they DID caused the recovery when they did nothing especially if doing nothing causes the Bush tax increases to take effect?

What was in effect before gridlock was a Progressive Jihad on Free Enterprise and American Entrepreneurship.

All that we'll have is a stalemate and Obama not able to nationalize any more industries or pass Cap n Trade or Amnesty. And that's a good thing

 

[bodecea]

lol, NOTICE they don't call people Republicans-Conservatives, they refer to them as..
Right Wing posters..

What I will expect to see is a lot of lefties wailing and banging their heads against the wall more than they do now.

I'm hoping to see a few, Explode.

They're not right wing posters?????

 

[edthecynic]

But that law could be passed before the midterm elections that is if the dimocrats actually wanted to not raise taxes.

And technically they're not Bush's tax increases. It is a return to the previously higher tax rates of the Clinton years.

Technically they are Bush's tax increases. It was Bush's tax laws that specified the return to the previously higher tax rates of the extremely prosperous Clinton years of FULL employment.

Because Democrats threatened to block them unless a sunset was included.

BULLSHIT

It was the gimmick the GOP insisted on to get the tax bill passed with 50 votes and also make the tax cuts bigger. Remember, "Deficits Don't Matter" Cheney cast the tie breaking 51st vote!

 

[bodecea]

Bumping up so more Right wingers can give us specifics on what they expect will happen on Nov 2nd.

 

[The Rabbi]

Bumping up so more Right wingers can give us specifics on what they expect will happen on Nov 2nd.

Obama, Pelosi and Reid will form a suicide pact.

 

[bodecea]

Bumping up so more Right wingers can give us specifics on what they expect will happen on Nov 2nd.

Obama, Pelosi and Reid will form a suicide pact.

Ok, there you go.