Right vs. Left is Logic vs. Emotion

[OldLady]

Jimmy Kimmel made an emotional appeal, therefore liberals are emotional and conservatives are logical.

Did I understand your conservative logic correctly?

Just the latest example. He lied about everything in his tear-filled monologue.

The man has insurance. He got his facts wrong, because he's not one of the uninsured. Sure the parents could get open heart surgery for their newborn, and they would then declare bankruptcy and pay the hospital for the rest of their lives.

 

[hunarcy]

I'm a Progressive. Supported Bernie in the primaries and Jill Stein in the general.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Why Trump’s Immigration Rules Are Unconstitutional

TDS

 

[Timmy]

PLEase provide an example where cons are cool With thoughts you don't agree on?

Literally every thought. You're the fascists who riot and assault people to stop simple political rallies by President Trump.

The right never shut down a Barack Obama rally. They never shut down a Hitlery Clinton rally. Hell, Bernie Sanders ran openly as a socialist and the right never shut down one of his rallies.

The right accepts just about everything and anything so long as it is not forced on us and so long as it does not violate the U.S. Constitution.

And those protesters were beat up by those "accepting " righties .

 

[Aries]

They just failed to do their job. Shouldn't they constitutionally do their job? Course they continue to do nothing...

Mmmm....where were you when Harry Reid was blocking basic legislation?

Doing their job includes blocking a poor appointment by Barack Insane Obama. The onus was on him to appoint someone who would get approved. He chose a radical instead. He lost.

So republicans are pretty much the same as Dems?

Not exactly. Dumbocrats are pure communists, socialists, marxists, and fascists. Republicans are progressives. Thank God for the Tea Party, uh?

"dems are pure" *lists four different things.........lol you're pure idiotic.

 

[P@triot]

I didn't twist anything. YOU did, by making charity a political attribute. You didn't answer my question. How do conservatives take "credit" for St Judes? BTW, those were not the hospitals mentioned in the OP.

You did twist it. The point of the thread is about how the left policies fail because they are built on lies from knee-jerk emotional reactions.

As far as how do conservatives "take credit" - well, free market charity is pure conservatism. Government forced socialism/communism/fascism is pure left-wing ideology.

 

[P@triot]

Jimmy Kimmel made an emotional appeal, therefore liberals are emotional and conservatives are logical.

Did I understand your conservative logic correctly?

Just the latest example. He lied about everything in his tear-filled monologue.

It is called a LOGICAL FALLACY and you sir are logic challenged.

No - it's called INDISPUTABLE REALITY. Something you left-wing ideologues simply can't bring yourselves to accept.

 

[P@triot]

And those protesters were beat up by those "accepting " righties .

Uh...no they weren't snowflake. Had those violent left-wing thugs had their asses beaten (as they should have) then the city of Chicago would not have needed to shut down President Trump's campaign rally 2 hours before it even started.

Incidentally - in the rare occasion where a violent left-wing thug did get his ass kicked (which has been very rare, unfortunately), that's called self-defense. It's 100% legal and has nothing to do with tolerance - so stop your nonsense straw-man.

 

[AntonToo]

Jimmy Kimmel made an emotional appeal, therefore liberals are emotional and conservatives are logical.

Did I understand your conservative logic correctly?

Just the latest example. He lied about everything in his tear-filled monologue.

It is called a LOGICAL FALLACY and you sir are logic challenged.

No - it's called INDISPUTABLE REALITY. Something you left-wing ideologues simply can't bring yourselves to accept.

Nope, you've committed a logical fallacy by picking a tiny example to broad brush all liberals a certain way...and it's ironic given that you did so while claiming that conservatives such as yourself have superior handle on logic.

 

[danielpalos]

Why Trump’s Immigration Rules Are Unconstitutional

Oh wow...a left-wing opinion hit piece. You really know how to bring it hard with the facts, uh? However, instead of the opinion of anti-American communists, how about we look at the actual law itself? Here is the actual law with a link to it on the actual government website:

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

That could not be more cut and dry. It could not be more clear. The President of the United States has full authority to block any class of foreigners for as long as he deems necessary. Foreigners do not have a right to access to the United States. Thanks for playing, chief!

Act 212(b) | USCIS

What actual qualifications does our Merchant in Chief, have for that? We have a Commerce Clause for real times of Peace when we can afford to lower taxes, as public policy for our Republic.

 

[P@triot]

Nope, you've committed a logical fallacy by picking a tiny example to broad brush all liberals a certain way...

You can wish away reality all you want under the guise of a "logical fallacy" but it doesn't change reality. If Jimmy Kimmel here was the only example - you'd have a point. But after 130 years of left-wing progressivism proving this, Jimmy Kimmel is only the latest example.

One that you clearly are desperate to distance yourself from (understandably).

 

[P@triot]

Why Trump’s Immigration Rules Are Unconstitutional

Oh wow...a left-wing opinion hit piece. You really know how to bring it hard with the facts, uh? However, instead of the opinion of anti-American communists, how about we look at the actual law itself? Here is the actual law with a link to it on the actual government website:

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

That could not be more cut and dry. It could not be more clear. The President of the United States has full authority to block any class of foreigners for as long as he deems necessary. Foreigners do not have a right to access to the United States. Thanks for playing, chief!

Act 212(b) | USCIS

What actual qualifications does our Merchant in Chief, have for that? We have a Commerce Clause for real times of Peace when we can afford to lower taxes, as public policy for our Republic.

And that has to do what exactly with our discussion about the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952?

 

[Brain357]

I didn't twist anything. YOU did, by making charity a political attribute. You didn't answer my question. How do conservatives take "credit" for St Judes? BTW, those were not the hospitals mentioned in the OP.

You did twist it. The point of the thread is about how the left policies fail because they are built on lies from knee-jerk emotional reactions.

As far as how do conservatives "take credit" - well, free market charity is pure conservatism. Government forced socialism/communism/fascism is pure left-wing ideology.

If only republicans were for free market.

 

[RightyTighty]

I didn't twist anything. YOU did, by making charity a political attribute. You didn't answer my question. How do conservatives take "credit" for St Judes? BTW, those were not the hospitals mentioned in the OP.

You did twist it. The point of the thread is about how the left policies fail because they are built on lies from knee-jerk emotional reactions.

As far as how do conservatives "take credit" - well, free market charity is pure conservatism. Government forced socialism/communism/fascism is pure left-wing ideology.

If only republicans were for free market.

Socialism for the rich, capitalism (now feudalism) for the poor.

 

[RightyTighty]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

The "logic" of the right, sick babies and old people should be about - making a buck.

People with sick babies are emotional. Rational liberal adults understand this and that healthcare is about keeping people well and getting them well when ill, not getting rich at their expense. You can make a living in healthcare but don't expect to get rich. For that you can rip off old ladies like Trump does.

 

[AntonToo]

Nope, you've committed a logical fallacy by picking a tiny example to broad brush all liberals a certain way...

You can wish away reality all you want under the guise of a "logical fallacy" but it doesn't change reality. If Jimmy Kimmel here was the only example - you'd have a point. But after 130 years of left-wing progressivism proving this, Jimmy Kimmel is only the latest example.

One that you clearly are desperate to distance yourself from (understandably).

No dummy, that's not how it works: some liberals, sometimes, using emotional appeals does not mean that liberals are somehow fundamentally more emotional or less logical than conservatives.

I could cherry pick to you conservatives being emotional all day long.

 

[P@triot]

I didn't twist anything. YOU did, by making charity a political attribute. You didn't answer my question. How do conservatives take "credit" for St Judes? BTW, those were not the hospitals mentioned in the OP.

You did twist it. The point of the thread is about how the left policies fail because they are built on lies from knee-jerk emotional reactions.

As far as how do conservatives "take credit" - well, free market charity is pure conservatism. Government forced socialism/communism/fascism is pure left-wing ideology.

If only republicans were for free market.

Right? The only problem is - I didn't say "Republicans". I said conservatives. Reading comprehension is so important - wouldn't you agree?

 

[Brain357]

I didn't twist anything. YOU did, by making charity a political attribute. You didn't answer my question. How do conservatives take "credit" for St Judes? BTW, those were not the hospitals mentioned in the OP.

You did twist it. The point of the thread is about how the left policies fail because they are built on lies from knee-jerk emotional reactions.

As far as how do conservatives "take credit" - well, free market charity is pure conservatism. Government forced socialism/communism/fascism is pure left-wing ideology.

If only republicans were for free market.

Right? The only problem is - I didn't say "Republicans". I said conservatives. Reading comprehension is so important - wouldn't you agree?

I purposely said republicans since that's what we have in office. And they are certainly not free market. I don't think free market conservatives actually exist.

 

[Papageorgio]

Jimmy Kimmel's recent viral monologue is a prime example of how the left values irrational emotions over logic and reason. That is why the left supports failed ideologies such as socialism, communism, etc. Because it feels good to them. They could care less that it ends in poverty, misery, and collapse.

Jimmy Kimmel illustrated this universal truth once again when he cried during his monologue about his baby (who is ok now) and proclaimed how nobody should have to decide between saving their child's life and money (as if anyone has ever had to make that "choice"). Life saving procedures cannot be denied regardless of a person's ability to pay. In addition to that inconvenient little fact, there is this gem:

The care, technology, and life saving treatment his family experienced was made possible by two, privately funded organizations. Both Cedars Sinai and Children’s Hospital LA are non-profit, not government-run, hospitals. This isn’t a coincidence.

When individuals are allowed to fund programs they like without a government mandate, we end up with more efficient and effective services. Hospitals are only one very important example.

Jimmy Kimmel’s Moving Story Shows Why Private Charity Trumps Government

Those private hospitals are great, I'm sure, but they sure are more expensive than most of the population can afford. So explain to me again how our current healthcare system is accessible to all? People can't afford to visit a hospital when they've got Obamacare--their $10,000 + deductibles are prohibitive. Same with doctor's visits. Kimmel as a father has every right to tear up relating the close call his newborn went through. You guys slamming "emotion" vs. "logic" aren't doing so hot when it comes to finding an actual solution to the problem, though. More and more people can't afford to visit doctors. Fix it.

This has been my argument all along. With Obamacare who can afford deductibles? I know the premium work well but the deductibles make the insurance unusable. I pay $475 a month insurance with an $1800 deductible or $7500 before it ever kicks in. That isn't helpful. What to do to fix it? Who the hell knows, both parties keep telling us we have to pass it before we know what's in it.

All I know if Obamacare is free and I am disabled and not able to work, the deductible isn't, so the policy is worth very little.

 

[P@triot]

The "logic" of the right, sick babies and old people should be about - making a buck.

160 years later and the left still can't let go of slavery. After emancipation, losing the Civil War, and the 13th Amendment, the left has continued to find new and creative ways to restore slavery - including socialism.

Look snowflake...it's either "make a buck" or force someone to provide their labor to you free of charge (slavery). Rational, logical people choose capitalism - where all parties enter into an agreement of their own free will and where both parties benefit.

You prove the premise of this thread with your irrational, emotional response. Why is it that the parents of babies should be absolved of their healthcare expenses? Why should full grown adults (emotionally tagged as "elderly") be absolved of their own healthcare costs? Can you give a logical, rational explanation for that or will you just continue with weepy "babies" and "elderly" bullshit?