Riddle me this, Libruls!

CrusaderFrank

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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?
 
1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?


Liberals always have to hide what they really want to do
 
OK, I'll give it a shot

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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Fiscal responsibility is not a Conservative vs Liberal trait. If it was, how do you explain that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were fiscally responsible while Ronald Reagan was not?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

No idea what a PDB is. After two planes hit the World Trade Center and one hit the Pentagon, it became obvious what the intent of the hijackings were

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?
The Constitution does not just apply to American citizens, it gives the rights of the accused. Throughout our history we have used US laws to prosecute foreign nationals
 
1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?

The most fiscally responsible president of that last 30 years was Clinton, who was neither Republican nor conservative.
 
Clinton's failed effort to takeover health care gave us a Conservative Congress.
 
1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?

Thanks for limiting your list to THREE points this time.
 
OK, I'll give it a shot

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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Fiscal responsibility is not a Conservative vs Liberal trait. If it was, how do you explain that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were fiscally responsible while Ronald Reagan was not?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

No idea what a PDB is. After two planes hit the World Trade Center and one hit the Pentagon, it became obvious what the intent of the hijackings were

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?
The Constitution does not just apply to American citizens, it gives the rights of the accused. Throughout our history we have used US laws to prosecute foreign nationals

NONE of the Gitmo detainees were captured IN America or have set foot IN America. None were arrested by law enforcement , none given Miranda rights, none given Lawyers before interrogations, None are accused of committing a crime in America. Shall I go on?

Ok since your in an answering mode.... How does one try a terrorists in criminal court when they had no Miranda rights, no Lawyers, no speedy trial, no protections from the legal system at all?

The Judge in the case , if he or she is honest , will have NO choice but to throw the charges out. But then you need to explain why they will then be taken into military custody even though a court found the charges baseless based on poison fruit and violated Federal statutes.
 
OK, I'll give it a shot

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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Fiscal responsibility is not a Conservative vs Liberal trait. If it was, how do you explain that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were fiscally responsible while Ronald Reagan was not?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

No idea what a PDB is. After two planes hit the World Trade Center and one hit the Pentagon, it became obvious what the intent of the hijackings were

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?
The Constitution does not just apply to American citizens, it gives the rights of the accused. Throughout our history we have used US laws to prosecute foreign nationals


Ronald Reagan and GEORGE BUSH were not, The economy has always done better with Dems...and the deficit doubled with each repub president.

the imbecile has no idea what the proper response to a PDB was... IT WAS doing further intel...

IT WASN't BUSH GOING BACK TO CLEARING BRUSH in CRAWFORD.

You might also want to ask imbecile Frank the troll... why they tried the shoe bomber if trials are a "liberal" value (he seems to have problems with spelling, but that's to be expected because he's brain damaged).

If trials are a liberal value,then it's cool to know that the founding fathers were liberals.

And I get to say once again that creepy frank is brain dead :thup:
 
OK, I'll give it a shot

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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Fiscal responsibility is not a Conservative vs Liberal trait. If it was, how do you explain that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were fiscally responsible while Ronald Reagan was not?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

No idea what a PDB is. After two planes hit the World Trade Center and one hit the Pentagon, it became obvious what the intent of the hijackings were

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?
The Constitution does not just apply to American citizens, it gives the rights of the accused. Throughout our history we have used US laws to prosecute foreign nationals


Ronald Reagan and GEORGE BUSH were not, The economy has always done better with Dems...and the deficit doubled with each repub president.

the imbecile has no idea what the proper response to a PDB was... IT WAS doing further intel...

IT WASN't BUSH GOING BACK TO CLEARING BRUSH in CRAWFORD.

You might also want to ask imbecile Frank the troll... why they tried the shoe bomber if trials are a "liberal" value (he seems to have problems with spelling, but that's to be expected because he's brain damaged).

If trials are a liberal value,then it's cool to know that the founding fathers were liberals.

And I get to say once again that creepy frank is brain dead :thup:

They tried the shoe bomber in court because he was captured in AMERICA. Not on a foreign battle field. He was given all the required legal protections as opposed to the Gitmo detainees. Same reason the Detroit bomber will be tried in Federal Court.

Go ahead Jillian, you are a lawyer.... explain how a Federal Judge can ignore the failure of giving Miranda rights, Lawyers before interrogations, speedy trials, the right to a bail hearing, etc etc etc etc....

Then explain how you can support a man that says we will give them a fair trial in Federal Court BUT if they are not found guilty we will just have the Military take them back into custody for a Military Tribunal?
 
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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Fiscal responsibility is not a Conservative vs Liberal trait. If it was, how do you explain that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were fiscally responsible while Ronald Reagan was not?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

No idea what a PDB is. After two planes hit the World Trade Center and one hit the Pentagon, it became obvious what the intent of the hijackings were

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?
The Constitution does not just apply to American citizens, it gives the rights of the accused. Throughout our history we have used US laws to prosecute foreign nationals

NONE of the Gitmo detainees were captured IN America or have set foot IN America. None were arrested by law enforcement , none given Miranda rights, none given Lawyers before interrogations, None are accused of committing a crime in America. Shall I go on?

Ok since your in an answering mode.... How does one try a terrorists in criminal court when they had no Miranda rights, no Lawyers, no speedy trial, no protections from the legal system at all?

The Judge in the case , if he or she is honest , will have NO choice but to throw the charges out. But then you need to explain why they will then be taken into military custody even though a court found the charges baseless based on poison fruit and violated Federal statutes.


The CRIME was committed in the US. That is where the juristiction is. If someone in France orders a murder of a US citizen in the US, that person is extradited and tried in the US, not France

The fact that Bush/Cheney butchered the rights of detainees is something they will have to answer for
 
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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?

The most fiscally responsible president of that last 30 years was Clinton, who was neither Republican nor conservative.


Yes. Clinton couldn't work with his Dem Congress. It wasn't until the Reps took over that he was able to get things done. That comes from Dick Morris who was with him at the time.
 
OK, I'll give it a shot

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1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Fiscal responsibility is not a Conservative vs Liberal trait. If it was, how do you explain that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were fiscally responsible while Ronald Reagan was not?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

No idea what a PDB is. After two planes hit the World Trade Center and one hit the Pentagon, it became obvious what the intent of the hijackings were

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?
The Constitution does not just apply to American citizens, it gives the rights of the accused. Throughout our history we have used US laws to prosecute foreign nationals

NONE of the Gitmo detainees were captured IN America or have set foot IN America. None were arrested by law enforcement , none given Miranda rights, none given Lawyers before interrogations, None are accused of committing a crime in America. Shall I go on?

Ok since your in an answering mode.... How does one try a terrorists in criminal court when they had no Miranda rights, no Lawyers, no speedy trial, no protections from the legal system at all?

The Judge in the case , if he or she is honest , will have NO choice but to throw the charges out. But then you need to explain why they will then be taken into military custody even though a court found the charges baseless based on poison fruit and violated Federal statutes.


The CRIME was committed in the US. That is where the juristiction is. If someone in France orders a murder of a US citizen in the US, that person is extradited and tried in the US, not France

MAJOR disconnect. It is a WAR. They were captured on a battlefield. They are not petty criminals, they are world wide Terrorists engaged in a WAR with the US Government.

We do not train our troops to read Miranda rights to captured personnel on a Battle field or in a prison break in a foreign Country. We do not provide Lawyers , speedy trials or other legal safe guards to PRISONERS captured while armed and attacking the US Government. They get Military Tribunals. Which was ALREADY APPROVED by the SUpreme Court and this Administration decided to stop them.

Go ahead dumb ass answer my questions? Since they had no Miranda rights, NO LAWYERS while interrogated, no speedy trial, no bail hearings, NO FEDERAL JUDICIALLY REQUIRED SAFEGUARDS AT ALL, how does one try them in a Federal Court? And when the HONEST Judge throws the charges out what right then does the Attorney General have to order the Military to take them BACK into Custody for Military Tribunals?

Obama, through Holder has stated for the record that no matter the outcome, these men will NOT go free. That alone tells the Judge they can not get a fair trial. It is a shame, a kangaroo court for political reasons.
 
Go ahead dumb ass answer my questions? Since they had no Miranda rights, NO LAWYERS while interrogated, no speedy trial, no bail hearings, NO FEDERAL JUDICIALLY REQUIRED SAFEGUARDS AT ALL, how does one try them in a Federal Court? And when the HONEST Judge throws the charges out what right then does the Attorney General have to order the Military to take them BACK into Custody for Military Tribunals

This question should have been asked by Bush/Cheney before they botched their incarceration. Denial of human rights, torture, botched evidence....what were these morons thinking?
Didn't they know you can't detain people forever without some sort of trial?
They just kicked the can down the road and said...."let the next guy worry about it"
 
Go ahead dumb ass answer my questions? Since they had no Miranda rights, NO LAWYERS while interrogated, no speedy trial, no bail hearings, NO FEDERAL JUDICIALLY REQUIRED SAFEGUARDS AT ALL, how does one try them in a Federal Court? And when the HONEST Judge throws the charges out what right then does the Attorney General have to order the Military to take them BACK into Custody for Military Tribunals

This question should have been asked by Bush/Cheney before they botched their incarceration. Denial of human rights, torture, botched evidence....what were these morons thinking?
Didn't they know you can't detain people forever without some sort of trial?
They just kicked the can down the road and said...."let the next guy worry about it"

WRONG, The Supreme Court has RULED military tribunals are LEGAL and justified and can be held on these men. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU FUCKING COWARD.
 
1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?

The most fiscally responsible president of that last 30 years was Clinton, who was neither Republican nor conservative.


Yes. Clinton couldn't work with his Dem Congress. It wasn't until the Reps took over that he was able to get things done. That comes from Dick Morris who was with him at the time.

Nonsense. PAYGO was largely responsible for the fiscal discipline of the 90's. It was passed by the Democratic Congress in 1990, extended in 1993 and 1997, and dumped (allowed to expire) by Bush and the GOP in 2002.
 
1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Because it takes a Democrat like Bill Clinton to actually excersize fiscal responsibility.

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

At the point that it becomes neccessary.

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?

If you commit a crime against the United States, you will be tried in a court of the United States.
 
1. If Conservatism is dead, why did Obama run on the Conservative, not Republican, principle of fiscal responsibility?

Because it takes a Democrat like Bill Clinton to actually excersize fiscal responsibility.

2. You got the Aug 6 PDB, at what point on the morning of 911 do you give the order for the USAF to shoot down fully loaded, yet off course US commercial air liners?

At the point that it becomes neccessary.

3. If KSM and other terrorists have standing as a US citizen and should be brought to trial in criminal court, how can we order the execution of other terrorists who also have standing as US citizens, isn’t that murder?

If you commit a crime against the United States, you will be tried in a court of the United States.

Military Tribunals are legal. Go answer my questions in the other thread Old Rocks.
 

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