Rick Santorum--the EMBARRASSMENT to the Republican party.

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    I am a 59 year old Republican and have been all of my life. I am more fiscally conservative--(Tea Party member) than I am conservative on social issues.

    Yes, I am pro-life--but understand the circumstances of woman or young girl wanting an abortion in the instances of rape or incest, & of course the health of the woman. I would much prefer that women and men use birth control contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies and STD'S. I don't hate gays--in fact, I have friends that are gay. I understand that homosexuality is not a disease, and it certainly is not a choice.

    I think that the majority of fiscal conservatives feel the same as I do--but are more than likely the silent majority--and are looking for a candidate that lays off of social & religious issues--and is more concerned with balanced budgets--lowering the deficit--cutting the size of government--becoming energy independent, etc. etc.

    In my opinion Rick Santorum ALONE has changed the topic from what I am concerned about--to abortion--and now birth control contraceptives.

    In a statement Santorum made in January 2012 he stated: "States have the right to ban birth control contraceptives."

    Rick Santorum: States Should Have Power To Ban Birth Control, Sodomy

    Of course, the U.S. Supreme court in 1965 (Griswold v Connecticut) said NO--States nor your next door neighbor has the right to intervene into the private--personal matters between you and your spouse.

    Santorum then turns into a GYN doctor and explains that birth control devices are harmful to women's health, and society.
    Santorum: Birth control ‘harmful to women’ - Right Turn - The Washington Post

    Of course--Santorum says there are no exceptions to abortion for rape or incest victims.
    oxnewsinsider.com/2012/01/14/rick-santorum-on-abortion-there-are-no-exceptions-for-rape-and-incest/

    Santorum's vicious statements toward homosexuality is over the top. Apparently not understanding that there are many Republican households in this country that have gays in their families or friends that are gay--that find his comments just as offensive as gays do.
    Recently Santorum referred to beastiality in one comment.

    This is the EMBARRASSMENT of the Republican party--in which one candidate who is so far right on social issues to ever even consider running for President---let alone thinking he can win.

    There is no possible way Rick Santorum could EVER defeat Barack Obama. Independents--women--including conservative women would be running to those voting booths to vote for Barack Obama.
     
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    Here's the deal cookie. Regardless of the fake panic of fake republicans the fact is that Santorum simply doesn't want taxpayers to pay for the cost of birth control and neither do I.
     
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    Rick Santorum gives you the opportunity to see what's in here. What's up here. And what's burning down here.

    I didn't know Santorum was caustic.
     
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    I think you are confusing Rick with Newt.
     
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    Odd, and yet the OP supports Newt...
     
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    And States do have the right to ban contraceptives. The Federal Government clearly leaves them that power in the tenth amendment. They shouldn't. I would oppose any effort anyone made to do so. As would Rick. But unless you somehow want to ignore the Constitution they have that right.

    You know this. We went over this the last time you ranted about it like three days ago.
     
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    So what you are saying is that conversatives should shut up about social issues because they are losers?

    So what are they supposed to stand for, exactly?

    Look, if you want to play a cynical game that you are going to throw all principles out the window and just pick the guy who polls best against Obama right now, because you hate Obama so much, knock yourself out.

    The Democrats tried that in 2004, and failed. The Republicans tried that in 1996, and failed.

    I think that Santorum is a weak candidate, honestly. I think the GOP Establishment cleared the feild for a candidate that the rank and file doesn't really want, and Santorum is the last gasp of "PLease don't make me".

    I don't worry about the social issues (which I don't care about at all at this point in my life) because I know there just isn't a lot a President can do about them. I've been hearing "Oh my God, they are going to take away our abortions" since Reagan. I just can't take it seriously at this point.
     

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