Rick Santorum is so conservative......

[JoeB131]

Funny or not, Santorum is one sick puppy. How long will it be before he declares masturbation should be illegal?.

Virginia Republicans Look To Approve State Sanctioned Rape

The procedure is called a transvaginal ultrasound and it’s what Republicans in Virginia want to force women to go through if they want an abortion. After passing the GOP dominated Senate, the Republican controlled House is poised to pass SB 484, which will force pregnant women to be violated if they want an abortion."

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Aren't they "violated" when they get the abortion? I mean, that's how they go in and get little Baby Oopsie, isn't it? They go in through the poonany.

I think this is kind of a silly law, but this is a silly argument against it.

 

[Paulie]

It's more about what kind of actions as CIC he would take "in the name of God". I'm not an atheist, but I don't want my president acting on some kind of believed behalf of God. That's how needless wars get started.

I'm just curious though...how can a fiscal conservative reconcile supporting Santorum?

He voted for a debt ceiling increase 5 times. He voted to practically double the size of the Dep. of Ed. He voted for Medicare D. He voted against right to work laws. He constantly votes for foreign aid to countries that aren't exactly our biggest allies. He influenced legislation on Fannie and Freddie to strengthen their goals of getting mortgages for those who couldn't afford them.

Those are all ok with you?

Yeah, I'm pretty much okay with that.

Let's take Medicare Part D. Wow. What an incredibly sensible way of doing things. Much cheaper to pay for Granny's diabetes medicine than for the operation to cut off her leg. I consider that very fiscally conservative.

Right to work is bullshit. "Right to fuck workers" is more like it, and we really have too much of that nonsense going on already. It's why we are in the mess we are.

Fannie and Freddie weren't the problem. It was the private banks selling sub-prime mortgages and bundling them with good mortgages that was the problem. And the housing market was let out of control.

Look, a Fiscal Conservative needs to address medicare, Social Security and Defense. You can whine about foreign aid all day, but it's a drop in the bucket.

Yeah that's why he's since come out and said it was a "mistake". It adds to the deficit by something like $60 billion/yr, and GROWS GOVERNMENT. You know, that thing that us conservatives are sick and tired of??

Right to work is bullshit? So labor unions should run the show and have all the say in how labor is utilized? Are you fucking kidding me?

Fannie and Freddie "weren't" the problem? Fannie and Freddie have no constitutional authorization to even exist in the first place. Whether or not they were the MAIN problem is irrelevant, but they were certainly a problem. $1.25 trillion dollars in MBS from those 2 agencies are sitting on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, increasing the monetary base and having a major impact on the value of the dollar and prices in commodities right now.

I was coming around on you recently, but forget that now. You're obviously NOT a conservative.

 

[Mac1958]

Let's take Medicare Part D. Wow. What an incredibly sensible way of doing things. Much cheaper to pay for Granny's diabetes medicine than for the operation to cut off her leg. I consider that very fiscally conservative.

By the way, this is a critical element in a strategy called "Value Based Insurance Design (VBID)". The point of VBID is to look at the big picture rather than the short term fix.

Studies are consistently showing that, in Granny's case, dropping the co-pays for her diabetes medicine to zero and giving her some fundamental education on her meds is reducing both urgent care and hospital visits by 60% to 80%, vastly decreasing the overall cost of Granny.

So, JoeB, you're absolutely right. Thinking ahead a bit and using our heads is fiscally conservative in the long run.

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[zeke]

I was coming around on you recently, but forget that now. You're obviously NOT a conservative.

You know what JoeB. He may be right. You sound WAY to reasonable to be a right wing whacko. There is a place for you among independents.

 

[Paulie]

I was coming around on you recently, but forget that now. You're obviously NOT a conservative.

You know what JoeB. He may be right. You sound WAY to reasonable to be a right wing whacko. There is a place for you among independents.

Oh yeah, independents. Those idiots who have no conviction, and sit around and watch from the sidelines while their government does what it wants, and then form their opinions on issues in hindsight.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah that's why he's since come out and said it was a "mistake". It adds to the deficit by something like $60 billion/yr, and GROWS GOVERNMENT. You know, that thing that us conservatives are sick and tired of??

Part of the reason it adds so much is because the Pharmacuetical companies insisted the government not buy drugs in bulk. And I kind of doubt that 60 Billion figure to start with. Medicare is going up because more people are getting older and medical inflation is 3 times regular inflation.

As far as him admitting a mistake, that's what they all do. They all disavow what they actually did when they held office. Except Ron Paul. He never did anything of note, so he has nothing to run away from.

Right to work is bullshit? So labor unions should run the show and have all the say in how labor is utilized? Are you fucking kidding me?

Um, yeah, guy. I grew up in a union household. You know what I remember? My dad was always able to put a roof over our head, food on the table, and we took okay vacations. I mean, why you think this is a horrible thing is beyond me.

We had our greatest propserity when union membership was at its height . You Paul-tards hate government, but the fact is, when you have just the rich and the poor, European Socialism isn't far behind. If people have to go to the government to get food on the table and a roof over their heads, they are just going to keep voting for more of it.

But the GOP has been hijacked by people who masturbate to Ayn Rand and think the rich don't have enough room for their polo ponies. Get rid of that good union guy.

Fannie and Freddie "weren't" the problem? Fannie and Freddie have no constitutional authorization to even exist in the first place. Whether or not they were the MAIN problem is irrelevant, but they were certainly a problem. $1.25 trillion dollars in MBS from those 2 agencies are sitting on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, increasing the monetary base and having a major impact on the value of the dollar and prices in commodities right now.

Again, the goal of FM/FM was increasing home ownership, which has been a government goal. Now, I'm sure that you pine for the days when working folks all lived in tenements and were happy with it, but people want more.

When you all dismantled the good union jobs, you eliminated the ability of people to own homes free and clear. But the real problem were the private banks and their greed and stupidity. Not government agencies that while they didn't cover themselves in glory didn't really cause the problem.

I was coming around on you recently, but forget that now. You're obviously NOT a conservative.

I'm a pragmatist, guy. I don't drive off the edge of the cliff because Ayn Rand said there was a bridge there. If something doesn't work, I try something that does.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's take Medicare Part D. Wow. What an incredibly sensible way of doing things. Much cheaper to pay for Granny's diabetes medicine than for the operation to cut off her leg. I consider that very fiscally conservative.

By the way, this is a critical element in a strategy called "Value Based Insurance Design (VBID)". The point of VBID is to look at the big picture rather than the short term fix.

Studies are consistently showing that, in Granny's case, dropping the co-pays for her diabetes medicine to zero and giving her some fundamental education on her meds is reducing both urgent care and hospital visits by 60% to 80%, vastly decreasing the overall cost of Granny.

So, JoeB, you're absolutely right. Thinking ahead a bit and using our heads is fiscally conservative in the long run.

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Shhhh... don't tell Paulie. He think Granny should just get her leg chopped off because she isn't a "producer". She really didn't need that leg.

 

[JoeB131]

I was coming around on you recently, but forget that now. You're obviously NOT a conservative.

You know what JoeB. He may be right. You sound WAY to reasonable to be a right wing whacko. There is a place for you among independents.

Well, I'd much rather have my party return to Sanity. But the fact they feel they need to humor Ron Paul and the batshit wing because he might form a third party that will annoy them for one cycle says a lot.

 

[Contumacious]

Funny or not, Santorum is one sick puppy. How long will it be before he declares masturbation should be illegal? He probably believes god kills a kitten every time somebody masturbates.


In a CNN interview the day before his opponent's success in Iowa, Rep. Ron Paul went so far as to categorize Santorum as "very liberal." When asked to explain further, Paul's son, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul, responded, "He voted to double the size of the Department of Education. He voted to expand Medicare and add free drugs for senior citizens and he has voted for foreign aid." Paul's website warns that "Rick Santorum is a lifelong big-government Republican."

Yes, indeed - his "conservative" credentials were adopted in order to fool the American Taliban Faction

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