Rick Perry has a Bush problem

[Trajan]

Would Rick Perry Have a Bush Problem? - NYTimes.com

The Bush's pull a lot of power in the GOP. Ricky needs to play nice with the Republican first family.

how many of the rove bush vs perry threads are you going to start?...just wondering....

 

[Ringel05]

the other one with the hot chicks.

Now you're getting the hang of this.......

i never post with you

If you're not female that's a good thing.........

 

[Ringel05]

But honestly using blogs as a "reliable source" has a strong tendency to bring down ridicule and derision on the poster since they tend not to be objective in most cases.

 

[Missourian]

But honestly using blogs as a "reliable source" has a strong tendency to bring down ridicule and derision on the poster since they tend not to be objective in most cases.

i know thats why i said prove the links wrong. Figured i would use their logic on them.....

That doesn't work either.

Barack Obama Is Gay


Prove Obama's not gay.

 

[Missourian]

um......rove ran someone against perry in texas.....

Uuummmm, can it be my humor is lost on some people? Say it isn't so!

Karl Rove Blasts Rick Perry and Makes The Case That He Is Just Like Bush

video in link of rove.....prove me wrong.

Well again look, Perry does want to establish himself as being his own man, but there are two ways to do that. One is to say, I’m my own man. I am who I am. The experiences that have made up my life have made me who I am. Another way is to try and contrast yourself with the former president and do so in a way that is dismissive of the former president.

Now why one would want to do that when they are both from Texas, why they’ve both got a cordial relationship. Why one would want to do that, I don’t know. Look it did not matter to George Bush in 1998 that he went to Yale and that Perry went to A&M. Bush raised went out of. He moved heaven and earth to get Rick Perry elected as his running mate and lieutenant governor. He raised him money outside the state. He made certain that his phone banks only called people that were for both men in order to get them out to vote.

In 1998 George H.W. Bush, the former president, President Bush 41 only cut two television ads for candidates in the entire country, for his son Jeb Bush in Texas, (Rove meant Florida) and the closing ad endorsing very strongly Rick Perry for lieutenant governor, and so you know look I know from the perspective of the former president that he has a cordial personal strong friendship of nearly two decades with the governor. I think that’s true for the governor too, but why he falls into this pattern of sounding like he is being dismissive of the former president is not smart politics strategically or tactically.

roves words....all of it.....

That's fine, but not the part I disbelieve.

I know Rove objects to Perry.

I don't believe Rove "groomed" Perry.

 

[Ringel05]

But honestly using blogs as a "reliable source" has a strong tendency to bring down ridicule and derision on the poster since they tend not to be objective in most cases.

i know thats why i said prove the links wrong. Figured i would use their logic on them.....

Personally if I was posting the link I would be the one following the link and posting it instead of the blog therefore not demanding that others do the work to prove me wrong but regardless of what Rove says, his (Rove's) opinion is still subjective. That should be obvious to any who are looking with a critical and not an adversarial eye. Doesn't mean that Rove isn't correct but it doesn't mean he is entirely either.

 

[Dot Com]

Would Rick Perry Have a Bush Problem? - NYTimes.com

The Bush's pull a lot of power in the GOP. Ricky needs to play nice with the Republican first family.

This is a lot of media bumping uglies...

Perry's biggest problem is that the ESTABLISHMENT of the GOP, the guys who want Romney because he rows with them at the country club, old bean, doesn't really like the notion that the rank and file, the rabble, might actually realize, "Hey, they've got the money, but we've got the numbers."

This is why they are scared shitless of the TEA Party. I think if left to the establishment GOP, they'd have cut a deal with the Community Organizer on the debt... So in many ways, the GOP is going through a transformation.

I think this was the fight for the soul of the party that almost happened in 2008, with the grassroots Christian working folks backing Huckabee and the Establishment getting behind Romney (R-Kolob). When the establishment figured the couldn't foist Romney on the masses because of his elitism and crazy religion, they turned to McCain and lost.

Perry won't take the beating Huckabee did. The Talk Radio types like Limbaugh can't go after Perry the way they went after Huck.

Are you saying that Perry can't be bought? I seem to remember him actively supporting big Pharma w/ his Executive Order for forced inoculation of school girls The only Repubs that can't be bought are Paul, Lugar, and a handful of others which aren't running for Pres right now.

 

[Missourian]

Perry dissed Rove and the Bushes after they helped groom him.

I did, right here.
I wanted a link that proved this statement.

 

[Zona]

Perry dissed Rove and the Bushes after they helped groom him.

Exactly! The Bushes can make or break him. If they want to, they can probably dig more more dirt than the Dems. The establishment GOP is afraid that is Perry wins the Nomination, they may as well concede to the Tea Party. This coild be a battle for the soul of the GOP....EXCITING!

This is so true, but still they will blame it on the "liberal media"..

 

[Rinata]

Perry dissed Rove and the Bushes after they helped groom him.

Bush's Crew Is Gunning for Rick Perry

How did the Bush-Perry fight begin? A brief history:

2010: Perry runs for a third term as governor, and several Bush allies line up for his primary opponent, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, including Rove and George H.W. Bush and Barbara Bush, plus former education secretary Margaret Spellings, staffer Karen Hughes, the New York Times reports, as well as Dick Cheney and former White House chief of staff James Baker, the Texas Tribune reports.

1990: After encouragement from Rove, Perry switches parties and is elected agriculture commissioner. Rove was working for Bush at the time, and the two camps began to quarrel.

1998: Bush campaigns for a second term as Texas governor, and, with his eye on the presidency, wants to win with a broad coalition of voters. Perry was running for lieutenant governor against the popular Democratic controller, John Sharp. Perry wanted to go negative, and the Bush people didn't, so they two sides "squabbled over polling, voter targeting and the hard-edged tone of Perry's campaign," the Los Angeles Times reports. Bush won by 1.4 million votes, Perry by just 70,000.

2000: Perry takes over as governor after Bush resigns. "He did nothing to improve relations by hastening the Bush family's exit from their living quarters," the Times reports.

2007: Perry gets caught on tape attacking Bush's record in Texas, telling Iowans at a fundraiser for Giuliani, "George Bush was never a fiscal conservative -- never was... I mean, '95, '97, '99, George Bush was spending money."

April 2011: Perry attacks one of Bush's signature laws, No Child Left Behind, even though he once supported it. He told the National Review, "Yeah, that's a cool name, but it’s a monstrous intrusion into our affairs. Look, I like George... but that’s not good public policy."

This week: Bush allies take turns knocking Perry for his Fed comments. In addition to Rove, The New York Times' Michael D. Shear notes that Tony Fratto, the former deputy press secretary, called Perry's comments "inappropriate and unpresidential." Bush speechwriter Pete Wehner said it was "the kind of blustering, unthinking comment that Perry's critics expect of him."

Howard Dean, who ran for president in 2004 attacking Bush, offered Perry a bit of advice Wednesday: "The Bush people don't fool around, as you know... You can say a lot of things about Bush's presidency and his failures as president, but one thing nobody should say bad about, his political team. They know what they're doing, and they are ruthless, and they are going to take Perry out."

Read the rest at:

Bush's Crew Is Gunning for Rick Perry - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

 

[Missourian]

Perry dissed Rove and the Bushes after they helped groom him.

Bush's Crew Is Gunning for Rick Perry

How did the Bush-Perry fight begin? A brief history:

2010: Perry runs for a third term as governor, and several Bush allies line up for his primary opponent, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, including Rove and George H.W. Bush and Barbara Bush, plus former education secretary Margaret Spellings, staffer Karen Hughes, the New York Times reports, as well as Dick Cheney and former White House chief of staff James Baker, the Texas Tribune reports.

1990: After encouragement from Rove, Perry switches parties and is elected agriculture commissioner. Rove was working for Bush at the time, and the two camps began to quarrel.

1998: Bush campaigns for a second term as Texas governor, and, with his eye on the presidency, wants to win with a broad coalition of voters. Perry was running for lieutenant governor against the popular Democratic controller, John Sharp. Perry wanted to go negative, and the Bush people didn't, so they two sides "squabbled over polling, voter targeting and the hard-edged tone of Perry's campaign," the Los Angeles Times reports. Bush won by 1.4 million votes, Perry by just 70,000.

2000: Perry takes over as governor after Bush resigns. "He did nothing to improve relations by hastening the Bush family's exit from their living quarters," the Times reports.

2007: Perry gets caught on tape attacking Bush's record in Texas, telling Iowans at a fundraiser for Giuliani, "George Bush was never a fiscal conservative -- never was... I mean, '95, '97, '99, George Bush was spending money."

April 2011: Perry attacks one of Bush's signature laws, No Child Left Behind, even though he once supported it. He told the National Review, "Yeah, that's a cool name, but it’s a monstrous intrusion into our affairs. Look, I like George... but that’s not good public policy."

This week: Bush allies take turns knocking Perry for his Fed comments. In addition to Rove, The New York Times' Michael D. Shear notes that Tony Fratto, the former deputy press secretary, called Perry's comments "inappropriate and unpresidential." Bush speechwriter Pete Wehner said it was "the kind of blustering, unthinking comment that Perry's critics expect of him."

Howard Dean, who ran for president in 2004 attacking Bush, offered Perry a bit of advice Wednesday: "The Bush people don't fool around, as you know... You can say a lot of things about Bush's presidency and his failures as president, but one thing nobody should say bad about, his political team. They know what they're doing, and they are ruthless, and they are going to take Perry out."

Read the rest at:

Bush's Crew Is Gunning for Rick Perry - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

Thanks for the timeline Rinata.

Doesn't sound like much grooming going on there.

Sound like Perry was at odds with Bush and Rove from the word Go.

 

[Charles_Main]

Links to two blogs...thanks.

i figured you would dismiss it, because thats what people like you do.

Go on and ignore reality.

No Offense but a blog that uses no hard news sources to back up the Claims it makes is not what I call a source.

Not that I don't think in this case it is true, just saying to many people pop a link into someone speculating, or making Claims on a blog and act As if it is fact.

 

[Auxous]

Of course Perry was at odds with the Bush administration.

After all, he is a democrat.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Would Rick Perry Have a Bush Problem? - NYTimes.com

The Bush's pull a lot of power in the GOP. Ricky needs to play nice with the Republican first family.

Well, I don't know if Perry has a Bush problem.........But the rumor going round is that Michelle Obama has a Bush problem.

It's called Frigid Bush Syndrome. And usually inflicts the most miserable of the bitches.....Apparently, Barack ain't too happy about it either. Rumor has it he's now suffering from Blue Balls Syndrome because of it.

That's what I've been hearin' anyway.

 

[GWV5903]

Would Rick Perry Have a Bush Problem? - NYTimes.com

The Bush's pull a lot of power in the GOP. Ricky needs to play nice with the Republican first family.

Yeah right, the GOP of '76 had no love for Ronald Reagan, yet he narrowly lost the nomination to Ford...

And in '80 he beat Carter 489 to 89, seriously, are you that dense???

Now it is early and anything is possible, based on Obama's results so far, we could have a Aggie POTUS in about 14 months and 6 days...

Keep digging, maybe you'll find gold...

 

[Zona]

Didnt this dumb ass Perry say he wanted to succeed in 2009? Is this the same idiot?

 

[Rinata]

Bush's Crew Is Gunning for Rick Perry

How did the Bush-Perry fight begin? A brief history:

2010: Perry runs for a third term as governor, and several Bush allies line up for his primary opponent, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, including Rove and George H.W. Bush and Barbara Bush, plus former education secretary Margaret Spellings, staffer Karen Hughes, the New York Times reports, as well as Dick Cheney and former White House chief of staff James Baker, the Texas Tribune reports.

1990: After encouragement from Rove, Perry switches parties and is elected agriculture commissioner. Rove was working for Bush at the time, and the two camps began to quarrel.

1998: Bush campaigns for a second term as Texas governor, and, with his eye on the presidency, wants to win with a broad coalition of voters. Perry was running for lieutenant governor against the popular Democratic controller, John Sharp. Perry wanted to go negative, and the Bush people didn't, so they two sides "squabbled over polling, voter targeting and the hard-edged tone of Perry's campaign," the Los Angeles Times reports. Bush won by 1.4 million votes, Perry by just 70,000.

2000: Perry takes over as governor after Bush resigns. "He did nothing to improve relations by hastening the Bush family's exit from their living quarters," the Times reports.

2007: Perry gets caught on tape attacking Bush's record in Texas, telling Iowans at a fundraiser for Giuliani, "George Bush was never a fiscal conservative -- never was... I mean, '95, '97, '99, George Bush was spending money."

April 2011: Perry attacks one of Bush's signature laws, No Child Left Behind, even though he once supported it. He told the National Review, "Yeah, that's a cool name, but it’s a monstrous intrusion into our affairs. Look, I like George... but that’s not good public policy."

This week: Bush allies take turns knocking Perry for his Fed comments. In addition to Rove, The New York Times' Michael D. Shear notes that Tony Fratto, the former deputy press secretary, called Perry's comments "inappropriate and unpresidential." Bush speechwriter Pete Wehner said it was "the kind of blustering, unthinking comment that Perry's critics expect of him."

Howard Dean, who ran for president in 2004 attacking Bush, offered Perry a bit of advice Wednesday: "The Bush people don't fool around, as you know... You can say a lot of things about Bush's presidency and his failures as president, but one thing nobody should say bad about, his political team. They know what they're doing, and they are ruthless, and they are going to take Perry out."

Read the rest at:

Bush's Crew Is Gunning for Rick Perry - Politics - The Atlantic Wire

Thanks for the timeline Rinata.

Doesn't sound like much grooming going on there.

Sound like Perry was at odds with Bush and Rove from the word Go.

Yes, it does.

 

[Rinata]

Would Rick Perry Have a Bush Problem? - NYTimes.com

The Bush's pull a lot of power in the GOP. Ricky needs to play nice with the Republican first family.

Well, I don't know if Perry has a Bush problem.........But the rumor going round is that Michelle Obama has a Bush problem.

It's called Frigid Bush Syndrome. And usually inflicts the most miserable of the bitches.....Apparently, Barack ain't too happy about it either. Rumor has it he's now suffering from Blue Balls Syndrome because of it.

That's what I've been hearin' anyway.

What are you talking about??? And what do you mean, "That's what I've
been hearing"??? Are you the guy that wheels in the coffee and pastries during WH meetings?? So you overhear things?? Tell us where you got the, "rumor going round."